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# Temperature rising increases CO2.

 Posts: 312 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 8/17/2016 9:01:49 AMPosted: 10 months agoI've been arguing a lot about global climate change. Yet, I came across an interesting point of view. Temperature rising is increasing CO2 levels, not the other way around. This is called reverse causality.Anytime, someone says there is a correlation between two events this should send a red flag that this person is trying to mislead you. This is because you don't know which way the correlation is pointing. Take for example event x and y with a positive correlation.X could cause y or y could cause x. This is a coin flip situation. Therefore, all climate change scientists have done for the relatively informed is provide a coin flip situation. Gee, there is a positive correlation between CO2 and temperatures.Yet, which way does the correlation point? CO2 increases causes temperature increase or temperature increase cause CO2 increase. In other words the layman has the same chance of coming to an accurate conclusion as all the climate scientist in the world put together by simply flipping a coin.Thanks for reading.http://www.prisonplanet.com...
 Posts: 707 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 8/17/2016 9:53:38 AMPosted: 10 months agoAt 8/17/2016 9:01:49 AM, Stupidape wrote:I've been arguing a lot about global climate change. Yet, I came across an interesting point of view. Temperature rising is increasing CO2 levels, not the other way around. This is called reverse causality.Anytime, someone says there is a correlation between two events this should send a red flag that this person is trying to mislead you. This is because you don't know which way the correlation is pointing. Take for example event x and y with a positive correlation.X could cause y or y could cause x. This is a coin flip situation. Therefore, all climate change scientists have done for the relatively informed is provide a coin flip situation. Gee, there is a positive correlation between CO2 and temperatures.Yet, which way does the correlation point? CO2 increases causes temperature increase or temperature increase cause CO2 increase. In other words the layman has the same chance of coming to an accurate conclusion as all the climate scientist in the world put together by simply flipping a coin.Thanks for reading.http://www.prisonplanet.com...Do you have a mechanism to back this up?After all, the sources of excess CO2 are well known.It's better to consider all the data than it is to blather about just one idea at a time.The metaphysicist has no laboratory.
 Posts: 312 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 8/17/2016 10:13:02 AMPosted: 10 months agoHere's another, Al Gore is being accused of massive fraud.http://www.naturalnews.com...
 Posts: 1,033 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 8/17/2016 6:38:02 PMPosted: 10 months agoAt 8/17/2016 9:01:49 AM, Stupidape wrote:I've been arguing a lot about global climate change. Yet, I came across an interesting point of view. Temperature rising is increasing CO2 levels, not the other way around. This is called reverse causality.Anytime, someone says there is a correlation between two events this should send a red flag that this person is trying to mislead you. This is because you don't know which way the correlation is pointing. Take for example event x and y with a positive correlation.X could cause y or y could cause x. This is a coin flip situation. Therefore, all climate change scientists have done for the relatively informed is provide a coin flip situation. Gee, there is a positive correlation between CO2 and temperatures.Yet, which way does the correlation point? CO2 increases causes temperature increase or temperature increase cause CO2 increase. In other words the layman has the same chance of coming to an accurate conclusion as all the climate scientist in the world put together by simply flipping a coin.Thanks for reading.http://www.prisonplanet.com...It isn't one or the other. Its both.We know increasing CO2 increases temperature, we have seen it in experiments, and its a basic part of earth's ecology. So it is no surprise that a massive increase of CO2 is increasing temperature.What is dangerous about CO2 increasing temperature is that the rise doesn't just stop when you stop pumping out CO2. Higher temperatures will cause more CO2 to be released from the Oceans, which hold most of our CO2, into the atmosphere increasing temperatures further. The reverse is also true. When temperatures fall, some CO2 will go back into the ocean, cooling the planet further, putting more CO2 back into the ocean.We often see large temperature changes in the past from small orbital differences that wouldn't have that much impact. We also see a massive change in CO2 as well. The reason for this is that the orbital change for example raises the temperature. This releases CO2 increasing CO2 levels. This CO2 raises the temperature releasing more CO2. This causes a much larger change in temperature.CO2 is not the only gas that works this way. This is also true of gasses like methane as well.
 Posts: 312 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 8/17/2016 6:44:09 PMPosted: 10 months agoIt isn't one or the other. Its both.We know increasing CO2 increases temperature, we have seen it in experiments, and its a basic part of earth's ecology. So it is no surprise that a massive increase of CO2 is increasing temperature.What is dangerous about CO2 increasing temperature is that the rise doesn't just stop when you stop pumping out CO2. Higher temperatures will cause more CO2 to be released from the Oceans, which hold most of our CO2, into the atmosphere increasing temperatures further. The reverse is also true. When temperatures fall, some CO2 will go back into the ocean, cooling the planet further, putting more CO2 back into the ocean.We often see large temperature changes in the past from small orbital differences that wouldn't have that much impact. We also see a massive change in CO2 as well. The reason for this is that the orbital change for example raises the temperature. This releases CO2 increasing CO2 levels. This CO2 raises the temperature releasing more CO2. This causes a much larger change in temperature.CO2 is not the only gas that works this way. This is also true of gasses like methane as well.Interesting, I'm trying to learn as much about the subject as I can because people have such vastly different points of view. Can you give me the source of this information please?
 Posts: 67 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 8/18/2016 10:39:54 AMPosted: 10 months agoGlobal Climate Change is not just one cause and one effect , it is rather circular causes. Here one example how it works:CO2 level rises -> traps more heat -> effects oceans -> more CO2 released -> CO2 level risesI am smart.....
 Posts: 1,068 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 8/19/2016 1:18:48 AMPosted: 10 months agoAt 8/17/2016 9:01:49 AM, Stupidape wrote:I've been arguing a lot about global climate change. Yet, I came across an interesting point of view. Temperature rising is increasing CO2 levels, not the other way around. This is called reverse causality.Anytime, someone says there is a correlation between two events this should send a red flag that this person is trying to mislead you. This is because you don't know which way the correlation is pointing. Take for example event x and y with a positive correlation.X could cause y or y could cause x. This is a coin flip situation. Therefore, all climate change scientists have done for the relatively informed is provide a coin flip situation. Gee, there is a positive correlation between CO2 and temperatures.Yet, which way does the correlation point? CO2 increases causes temperature increase or temperature increase cause CO2 increase. In other words the layman has the same chance of coming to an accurate conclusion as all the climate scientist in the world put together by simply flipping a coin.Thanks for reading.http://www.prisonplanet.com...I can tell you 100% that a rise and temperature does not just make C02. C02 simply keeps temperatures leveled out. So it wont get crazy hot and it wont get crazy cold if you have high levels of C02. As to the rising temperature of the earth, that's determined by space. You cant do anything about the earth progressively getting closer or farther away from the sun, sunspot activity ect. But we can all play make believe and think because we have recorded 160 yrs of temperatures apparently we know everything.
 Posts: 2,350 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 8/19/2016 1:34:00 AMPosted: 10 months agoAt 8/19/2016 1:18:48 AM, bigotry wrote:At 8/17/2016 9:01:49 AM, Stupidape wrote:I've been arguing a lot about global climate change. Yet, I came across an interesting point of view. Temperature rising is increasing CO2 levels, not the other way around. This is called reverse causality.Anytime, someone says there is a correlation between two events this should send a red flag that this person is trying to mislead you. This is because you don't know which way the correlation is pointing. Take for example event x and y with a positive correlation.X could cause y or y could cause x. This is a coin flip situation. Therefore, all climate change scientists have done for the relatively informed is provide a coin flip situation. Gee, there is a positive correlation between CO2 and temperatures.Yet, which way does the correlation point? CO2 increases causes temperature increase or temperature increase cause CO2 increase. In other words the layman has the same chance of coming to an accurate conclusion as all the climate scientist in the world put together by simply flipping a coin.Thanks for reading.http://www.prisonplanet.com...I can tell you 100% that a rise and temperature does not just make C02. C02 simply keeps temperatures leveled out. So it wont get crazy hot and it wont get crazy cold if you have high levels of C02. As to the rising temperature of the earth, that's determined by space. You cant do anything about the earth progressively getting closer or farther away from the sun, sunspot activity ect. But we can all play make believe and think because we have recorded 160 yrs of temperatures apparently we know everything.OH MY GOD THIS IS AMAZING! Someone alert the worlds scientists and tell them they are wrong, quickly!Seriously, you don't know more about atmospheric science than scientists. If you think you do, then please publish your findings c:"Hate begets hate"
 Posts: 1,033 Add as FriendChallenge to a DebateSend a Message 8/19/2016 2:21:25 AMPosted: 10 months agoAt 8/19/2016 1:18:48 AM, bigotry wrote:At 8/17/2016 9:01:49 AM, Stupidape wrote:I've been arguing a lot about global climate change. Yet, I came across an interesting point of view. Temperature rising is increasing CO2 levels, not the other way around. This is called reverse causality.Anytime, someone says there is a correlation between two events this should send a red flag that this person is trying to mislead you. This is because you don't know which way the correlation is pointing. Take for example event x and y with a positive correlation.X could cause y or y could cause x. This is a coin flip situation. Therefore, all climate change scientists have done for the relatively informed is provide a coin flip situation. Gee, there is a positive correlation between CO2 and temperatures.Yet, which way does the correlation point? CO2 increases causes temperature increase or temperature increase cause CO2 increase. In other words the layman has the same chance of coming to an accurate conclusion as all the climate scientist in the world put together by simply flipping a coin.Thanks for reading.http://www.prisonplanet.com...I can tell you 100% that a rise and temperature does not just make C02. C02 simply keeps temperatures leveled out. So it wont get crazy hot and it wont get crazy cold if you have high levels of C02.Hello again bigotry. I thought you made some interesting points. You say that CO2 balances temperatures and that at a certain point increasing CO2 won't increase temperature. Are there any studies to back this up? I always thought that CO2 traps heat and that the more of it there is the more heat that will be trapped. Correct me if I am wrong.As to the rising temperature of the earth, that's determined by space. You cant do anything about the earth progressively getting closer or farther away from the sun, sunspot activity ect. But we can all play make believe and think because we have recorded 160 yrs of temperatures apparently we know everything.If the sun is the only major factor then why is Venus so hot? Scientists believe it is its thick atmosphere trapping the heat. What do you think?I found a graph with solar heat, temperature, and CO2 and solar activity has been falling since 1955 or about 60 years ago. Most of the temperature rise occurred since then. CO2 has been rising consistently and sped up its rise when temperatures sped up.