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Stymie13
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10/19/2016 12:51:55 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
Really good stuff. For those not well versed in entanglement, research quantum non-locality. In short, it's subatomic particles existing in different places at the same time.

https://www.scientificamerican.com...
Annnaxim
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10/19/2016 8:48:05 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/19/2016 12:51:55 AM, Stymie13 wrote:
In short, it's subatomic particles existing in different places at the same time.

Really!?
Or ist it just quantum fields?
janesix
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10/19/2016 8:33:48 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/19/2016 8:48:05 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
At 10/19/2016 12:51:55 AM, Stymie13 wrote:
In short, it's subatomic particles existing in different places at the same time.

Really!?
Or ist it just quantum fields?

Please explain.
Annnaxim
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10/20/2016 6:01:28 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/19/2016 8:33:48 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/19/2016 8:48:05 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
At 10/19/2016 12:51:55 AM, Stymie13 wrote:
In short, it's subatomic particles existing in different places at the same time.

Really!?
Or ist it just quantum fields?

Please explain.
I have always wondered whether subatomic particles existing in different places at the same time is a correct representation of how the qantum world works.
Maybe the use of quantum fields is a better explanation.
janesix
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10/20/2016 8:11:21 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/20/2016 6:01:28 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
At 10/19/2016 8:33:48 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/19/2016 8:48:05 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
At 10/19/2016 12:51:55 AM, Stymie13 wrote:
In short, it's subatomic particles existing in different places at the same time.

Really!?
Or ist it just quantum fields?

Please explain.
I have always wondered whether subatomic particles existing in different places at the same time is a correct representation of how the qantum world works.
Maybe the use of quantum fields is a better explanation.
Do you mean like a particle is a vibration of a quantum field?
Annnaxim
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10/20/2016 6:16:33 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/20/2016 8:11:21 AM, janesix wrote:
At 10/20/2016 6:01:28 AM, Annnaxim wrote:

I have always wondered whether subatomic particles existing in different places at the same time is a correct representation of how the qantum world works.
Maybe the use of quantum fields is a better explanation.
Do you mean like a particle is a vibration of a quantum field?

Yes. That could be an explanation.
OTOH, why would one even need particles? Aren't quantum fields an explanation all by themselves?
Could particle formation just be a simplified explanation?
Stymie13
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10/22/2016 12:39:01 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/20/2016 6:01:28 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
At 10/19/2016 8:33:48 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/19/2016 8:48:05 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
At 10/19/2016 12:51:55 AM, Stymie13 wrote:
In short, it's subatomic particles existing in different places at the same time.

Really!?
Or ist it just quantum fields?

Please explain.
I have always wondered whether subatomic particles existing in different places at the same time is a correct representation of how the qantum world works.
Maybe the use of quantum fields is a better explanation.

Sorry been stuck in the politics forum for healthcare.

Short answer: we are still learning. Entanglement is relatively new and, although the math is getting worked out the observation and replication is difficult, measuring wise.
Stymie13
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10/22/2016 12:44:08 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/20/2016 6:01:28 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
At 10/19/2016 8:33:48 PM, janesix wrote:
At 10/19/2016 8:48:05 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
At 10/19/2016 12:51:55 AM, Stymie13 wrote:
In short, it's subatomic particles existing in different places at the same time.

Really!?
Or ist it just quantum fields?

Please explain.
I have always wondered whether subatomic particles existing in different places at the same time is a correct representation of how the qantum world works.
Maybe the use of quantum fields is a better explanation.

Are you familiar with the werner state? I would review oxford or cal states research on it.
Annnaxim
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10/22/2016 9:06:58 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/22/2016 12:44:08 AM, Stymie13 wrote:

Are you familiar with the werner state?
No.

I would review oxford or cal states research on it.
Could you please explain why this research is relevant?
Stymie13
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10/22/2016 11:19:03 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/22/2016 9:06:58 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
At 10/22/2016 12:44:08 AM, Stymie13 wrote:

Are you familiar with the werner state?
No.

I would review oxford or cal states research on it.
Could you please explain why this research is relevant?

They break it all down mathematically. I can put it in laymens terms but stuff like this it's better to get the info from the true sources vs 'just some guy on a forum' whether I understand it or not. In short, credibility. I'm not trying to inflate my ego.
Annnaxim
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10/22/2016 5:49:22 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/22/2016 11:19:03 AM, Stymie13 wrote:
They break it all down mathematically. I can put it in laymens terms but stuff like this it's better to get the info from the true sources vs 'just some guy on a forum' whether I understand it or not. In short, credibility. I'm not trying to inflate my ego.
Yeah... I know. And I know my limits; I'm not up to the maths those guys throw around.

I'm trying to understand why some people tell me the explanation of the quantum world with virtual particles sucks. To me quantum fields and virtual particles are alternative explanations.
Am I wrong here?
Stymie13
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10/22/2016 8:36:56 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/22/2016 5:49:22 PM, Annnaxim wrote:
At 10/22/2016 11:19:03 AM, Stymie13 wrote:
They break it all down mathematically. I can put it in laymens terms but stuff like this it's better to get the info from the true sources vs 'just some guy on a forum' whether I understand it or not. In short, credibility. I'm not trying to inflate my ego.
Yeah... I know. And I know my limits; I'm not up to the maths those guys throw around.

I'm trying to understand why some people tell me the explanation of the quantum world with virtual particles sucks. To me quantum fields and virtual particles are alternative explanations.
Am I wrong here?

I'd say no. You probably get blowback because virtual particles only exist for a limited time and energy/momentum issues. Basically anything with a longer 'life' is s real vs virtual particle.

Entanglement however is particles effecting each other, or more aptly existing, across vast spaces.
Stymie13
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10/26/2016 10:43:54 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/19/2016 8:48:05 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
At 10/19/2016 12:51:55 AM, Stymie13 wrote:
In short, it's subatomic particles existing in different places at the same time.

Really!?
Or ist it just quantum fields?

Read the article in post 13... it'll answer not all of your questions