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11/29/2016 5:10:11 AM
Posted: 6 days ago
Scientists say that were all under mind control. Not really, but I know now that we are. There is no more free will.
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11/29/2016 3:17:49 PM
Posted: 6 days ago
At 11/29/2016 9:45:14 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
What exactly do you mean, when you say there is no free will?

Have you ever heard of the Mandela effect? Our minds, and sometimes our bodies, are being controlled. You know Texas has a LHC?
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11/29/2016 3:21:16 PM
Posted: 6 days ago
At 11/29/2016 3:17:49 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 9:45:14 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
What exactly do you mean, when you say there is no free will?

Have you ever heard of the Mandela effect? Our minds, and sometimes our bodies, are being controlled. You know Texas has a LHC?

Actually, it's just your mind that is being controlled by a serious mental disorder. Seek professional help.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
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11/29/2016 3:43:47 PM
Posted: 6 days ago
At 11/29/2016 3:21:16 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/29/2016 3:17:49 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 9:45:14 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
What exactly do you mean, when you say there is no free will?

Have you ever heard of the Mandela effect? Our minds, and sometimes our bodies, are being controlled. You know Texas has a LHC?

Actually, it's just your mind that is being controlled by a serious mental disorder. Seek professional help.

https://youtu.be...
Are you rejecting science?
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11/29/2016 3:45:12 PM
Posted: 6 days ago
At 11/29/2016 3:43:47 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 3:21:16 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/29/2016 3:17:49 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 9:45:14 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
What exactly do you mean, when you say there is no free will?

Have you ever heard of the Mandela effect? Our minds, and sometimes our bodies, are being controlled. You know Texas has a LHC?

Actually, it's just your mind that is being controlled by a serious mental disorder. Seek professional help.

https://youtu.be...
Are you rejecting science?

You haven't the faintest clue what science is.
Marrying a 6 year old and waiting until she reaches puberty and maturity before having consensual sex is better than walking up to
a stranger in a bar and proceeding to have relations with no valid proof of the intent of the person. Muhammad wins. ~ Fatihah
If they don't want to be killed then they have to subdue to the Islamic laws. - Uncung
Without God, you are lower than sh!t. ~ SpiritandTruth
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11/29/2016 4:00:59 PM
Posted: 6 days ago
At 11/29/2016 3:45:12 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/29/2016 3:43:47 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 3:21:16 PM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/29/2016 3:17:49 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 9:45:14 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
What exactly do you mean, when you say there is no free will?

Have you ever heard of the Mandela effect? Our minds, and sometimes our bodies, are being controlled. You know Texas has a LHC?

Actually, it's just your mind that is being controlled by a serious mental disorder. Seek professional help.

https://youtu.be...
Are you rejecting science?

You haven't the faintest clue what science is.

And you have no clue what the scientific method is.
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11/29/2016 5:13:17 PM
Posted: 6 days ago
At 11/29/2016 9:45:14 AM, Annnaxim wrote:
What exactly do you mean, when you say there is no free will?

http://www.businessinsider.com...
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11/29/2016 8:25:46 PM
Posted: 6 days ago
At 11/29/2016 5:10:11 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
Scientists say that were all under mind control. Not really, but I know now that we are. There is no more free will.

You mention the Mandela effect but, in reality, what you are claiming here is not what the Mandela effect is, and is simply an example of your lack of understanding trying to present particular aspects of reality as supporting your point of view, without any logic, reason or critical thinking allowing you to justifiably link it.

You also horrifically abuse the word "know". You don't know. To know, you should be able to tell that the particular state of reality you claim to be true, is true; and the only way of you being able to do that is through evidence.

As we have all shown here, your ability to reason and critically examine evidence has not only been shown to be lacking; but the presentation of your arguments that allude to being just that have been shown to be bordering on fraudulently dishonest.

It seems you have a profound inability to analyze or correct your own position, or look at any conflicting data to your already established apriori position, which is preventing you from seeing facts, data and reality for what it is; seeing only the contorted sets of evidence that agree with you and dismissing all that does not. It is a systematic form of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias that holds your own position to the lowest possible burden of proof and level of scrutiny, and yet would allow you to dismiss arguments that the sky is blue should that position disagree with you.

It shouldn't be of any surprise that every single person that holds your irrational, and ridiculous positions cannot do maths, cannot seem to critically reason to any degree, and to frequently make mistakes and errors that no human being with even the most rudimentary understanding of reality should make. As I've said before, you make such rudimentary mistakes about maths, perspective, logic, reasoning and critical evaluation of the evidence you present, that even you should be able to review your trail of failures and conclude that there is something wrong with your thought process.

I don't know why you are like this, but I suspect, like many others, that there is something sorely and deeply lacking in your life; a sense of powerlessness, or a general fear of your mediocre position on this world that you seek to elevate your opinions and position higher than everyone else, and then defend your atrocious reasoning through conspiracy theories, poor reasoning and accusations of brain washing.

You know this, which is why you frequently resort to projection: being so uncomfortable and profoundly aware of the faults with your own reasoning and your own position that you must pretend and argue as if everyone that agrees with you has the profound faults you have that we will neither share, nor accept.

You have to call people liars, and that they have no evidence, that everyone else is as wrong as you know yourself to be; and you do so with no argument, no justification and no rationalization: whereas you frequently and demonstrably do the same; claiming you have a model in one thread, then denying it in the next. Claiming that triangulation is impossible, then using it to your own end in other scenarios.

You're not fooling anyone, and we both know that this includes yourself, but the profound unwillingness to accept the falsity of your position is based on the feeling of power and specialness those beliefs give you.

You may not be mentally ill; but the deep seated paranoia that your beliefs are generating may get you there. You're believing what you believe in order to establish a meaning and power in your life that you do not otherwise have; however as you expose your beliefs to more criticism here, you are having to quickly turn the world from what it is, to a subversive collection of organizations, people, and powers that are out to do you harm. The more you start believing this, the more it is going to rule your life, and start affecting your ability to function in this world.

You may or may not like it, Eld; but I am genuinely worried for your mental health.
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11/29/2016 9:06:11 PM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/29/2016 8:25:46 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/29/2016 5:10:11 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
Scientists say that were all under mind control. Not really, but I know now that we are. There is no more free will.

You mention the Mandela effect but, in reality, what you are claiming here is not what the Mandela effect is, and is simply an example of your lack of understanding trying to present particular aspects of reality as supporting your point of view, without any logic, reason or critical thinking allowing you to justifiably link it.

You also horrifically abuse the word "know". You don't know. To know, you should be able to tell that the particular state of reality you claim to be true, is true; and the only way of you being able to do that is through evidence.

As we have all shown here, your ability to reason and critically examine evidence has not only been shown to be lacking; but the presentation of your arguments that allude to being just that have been shown to be bordering on fraudulently dishonest.


It seems you have a profound inability to analyze or correct your own position, or look at any conflicting data to your already established apriori position, which is preventing you from seeing facts, data and reality for what it is; seeing only the contorted sets of evidence that agree with you and dismissing all that does not. It is a systematic form of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias that holds your own position to the lowest possible burden of proof and level of scrutiny, and yet would allow you to dismiss arguments that the sky is blue should that position disagree with you.

It shouldn't be of any surprise that every single person that holds your irrational, and ridiculous positions cannot do maths, cannot seem to critically reason to any degree, and to frequently make mistakes and errors that no human being with even the most rudimentary understanding of reality should make. As I've said before, you make such rudimentary mistakes about maths, perspective, logic, reasoning and critical evaluation of the evidence you present, that even you should be able to review your trail of failures and conclude that there is something wrong with your thought process.

I don't know why you are like this, but I suspect, like many others, that there is something sorely and deeply lacking in your life; a sense of powerlessness, or a general fear of your mediocre position on this world that you seek to elevate your opinions and position higher than everyone else, and then defend your atrocious reasoning through conspiracy theories, poor reasoning and accusations of brain washing.

You know this, which is why you frequently resort to projection: being so uncomfortable and profoundly aware of the faults with your own reasoning and your own position that you must pretend and argue as if everyone that agrees with you has the profound faults you have that we will neither share, nor accept.

You have to call people liars, and that they have no evidence, that everyone else is as wrong as you know yourself to be; and you do so with no argument, no justification and no rationalization: whereas you frequently and demonstrably do the same; claiming you have a model in one thread, then denying it in the next. Claiming that triangulation is impossible, then using it to your own end in other scenarios.

You're not fooling anyone, and we both know that this includes yourself, but the profound unwillingness to accept the falsity of your position is based on the feeling of power and specialness those beliefs give you.


You may not be mentally ill; but the deep seated paranoia that your beliefs are generating may get you there. You're believing what you believe in order to establish a meaning and power in your life that you do not otherwise have; however as you expose your beliefs to more criticism here, you are having to quickly turn the world from what it is, to a subversive collection of organizations, people, and powers that are out to do you harm. The more you start believing this, the more it is going to rule your life, and start affecting your ability to function in this world.

You may or may not like it, Eld; but I am genuinely worried for your mental health.

Anyone ever told you you are boring as fvck? I couldn't get halfway through that attempt at a psychological evaluation. There was NOTHING useful in that babble. You want evidence? There was a whistleblower post on reddit(the post has since been taken down) that explains the Mandela effect, and how it is done. The whistleblower explained that he and other scientists were involved in a secret group where they were free to develop experiments with no worry about cost. They have been working on hacking the brain now for sometime. These scientists discovered a frequency at which all conscious humans use. He goes on to say they did successfully tap into that frequency and were able to control what ANYONE does, hears, sees, feels etc. by sending and intercepting signals to and from the brain, just as the TED talk video shows, just wirelessly. They are using the "abandoned" LHC IN Texas. So they change what we perceive This adequately explains the Mandela effect better than "parallel universes" or time travel, and is portrayed in "they live". Roddy Piper tweeted that the movie was in fact a documentary before he died.
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11/29/2016 9:12:40 PM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/29/2016 9:06:11 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 8:25:46 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/29/2016 5:10:11 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
Scientists say that were all under mind control. Not really, but I know now that we are. There is no more free will.

You mention the Mandela effect but, in reality, what you are claiming here is not what the Mandela effect is, and is simply an example of your lack of understanding trying to present particular aspects of reality as supporting your point of view, without any logic, reason or critical thinking allowing you to justifiably link it.

You also horrifically abuse the word "know". You don't know. To know, you should be able to tell that the particular state of reality you claim to be true, is true; and the only way of you being able to do that is through evidence.

As we have all shown here, your ability to reason and critically examine evidence has not only been shown to be lacking; but the presentation of your arguments that allude to being just that have been shown to be bordering on fraudulently dishonest.


It seems you have a profound inability to analyze or correct your own position, or look at any conflicting data to your already established apriori position, which is preventing you from seeing facts, data and reality for what it is; seeing only the contorted sets of evidence that agree with you and dismissing all that does not. It is a systematic form of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias that holds your own position to the lowest possible burden of proof and level of scrutiny, and yet would allow you to dismiss arguments that the sky is blue should that position disagree with you.

It shouldn't be of any surprise that every single person that holds your irrational, and ridiculous positions cannot do maths, cannot seem to critically reason to any degree, and to frequently make mistakes and errors that no human being with even the most rudimentary understanding of reality should make. As I've said before, you make such rudimentary mistakes about maths, perspective, logic, reasoning and critical evaluation of the evidence you present, that even you should be able to review your trail of failures and conclude that there is something wrong with your thought process.

I don't know why you are like this, but I suspect, like many others, that there is something sorely and deeply lacking in your life; a sense of powerlessness, or a general fear of your mediocre position on this world that you seek to elevate your opinions and position higher than everyone else, and then defend your atrocious reasoning through conspiracy theories, poor reasoning and accusations of brain washing.

You know this, which is why you frequently resort to projection: being so uncomfortable and profoundly aware of the faults with your own reasoning and your own position that you must pretend and argue as if everyone that agrees with you has the profound faults you have that we will neither share, nor accept.

You have to call people liars, and that they have no evidence, that everyone else is as wrong as you know yourself to be; and you do so with no argument, no justification and no rationalization: whereas you frequently and demonstrably do the same; claiming you have a model in one thread, then denying it in the next. Claiming that triangulation is impossible, then using it to your own end in other scenarios.

You're not fooling anyone, and we both know that this includes yourself, but the profound unwillingness to accept the falsity of your position is based on the feeling of power and specialness those beliefs give you.


You may not be mentally ill; but the deep seated paranoia that your beliefs are generating may get you there. You're believing what you believe in order to establish a meaning and power in your life that you do not otherwise have; however as you expose your beliefs to more criticism here, you are having to quickly turn the world from what it is, to a subversive collection of organizations, people, and powers that are out to do you harm. The more you start believing this, the more it is going to rule your life, and start affecting your ability to function in this world.

You may or may not like it, Eld; but I am genuinely worried for your mental health.

Anyone ever told you you are boring as fvck? I couldn't get halfway through that attempt at a psychological evaluation. There was NOTHING useful in that babble. You want evidence? There was a whistleblower post on reddit(the post has since been taken down) that explains the Mandela effect, and how it is done. The whistleblower explained that he and other scientists were involved in a secret group where they were free to develop experiments with no worry about cost. They have been working on hacking the brain now for sometime. These scientists discovered a frequency at which all conscious humans use. He goes on to say they did successfully tap into that frequency and were able to control what ANYONE does, hears, sees, feels etc. by sending and intercepting signals to and from the brain, just as the TED talk video shows, just wirelessly. They are using the "abandoned" LHC IN Texas. So they change what we perceive This adequately explains the Mandela effect better than "parallel universes" or time travel, and is portrayed in "they live". Roddy Piper tweeted that the movie was in fact a documentary before he died.

No. You're just being irrationally paranoid; for the reasons I stated above; and it's only going to hurt you as a person.
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11/29/2016 9:21:27 PM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/29/2016 9:12:40 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/29/2016 9:06:11 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 8:25:46 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/29/2016 5:10:11 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
Scientists say that were all under mind control. Not really, but I know now that we are. There is no more free will.

You mention the Mandela effect but, in reality, what you are claiming here is not what the Mandela effect is, and is simply an example of your lack of understanding trying to present particular aspects of reality as supporting your point of view, without any logic, reason or critical thinking allowing you to justifiably link it.

You also horrifically abuse the word "know". You don't know. To know, you should be able to tell that the particular state of reality you claim to be true, is true; and the only way of you being able to do that is through evidence.

As we have all shown here, your ability to reason and critically examine evidence has not only been shown to be lacking; but the presentation of your arguments that allude to being just that have been shown to be bordering on fraudulently dishonest.


It seems you have a profound inability to analyze or correct your own position, or look at any conflicting data to your already established apriori position, which is preventing you from seeing facts, data and reality for what it is; seeing only the contorted sets of evidence that agree with you and dismissing all that does not. It is a systematic form of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias that holds your own position to the lowest possible burden of proof and level of scrutiny, and yet would allow you to dismiss arguments that the sky is blue should that position disagree with you.

It shouldn't be of any surprise that every single person that holds your irrational, and ridiculous positions cannot do maths, cannot seem to critically reason to any degree, and to frequently make mistakes and errors that no human being with even the most rudimentary understanding of reality should make. As I've said before, you make such rudimentary mistakes about maths, perspective, logic, reasoning and critical evaluation of the evidence you present, that even you should be able to review your trail of failures and conclude that there is something wrong with your thought process.

I don't know why you are like this, but I suspect, like many others, that there is something sorely and deeply lacking in your life; a sense of powerlessness, or a general fear of your mediocre position on this world that you seek to elevate your opinions and position higher than everyone else, and then defend your atrocious reasoning through conspiracy theories, poor reasoning and accusations of brain washing.

You know this, which is why you frequently resort to projection: being so uncomfortable and profoundly aware of the faults with your own reasoning and your own position that you must pretend and argue as if everyone that agrees with you has the profound faults you have that we will neither share, nor accept.

You have to call people liars, and that they have no evidence, that everyone else is as wrong as you know yourself to be; and you do so with no argument, no justification and no rationalization: whereas you frequently and demonstrably do the same; claiming you have a model in one thread, then denying it in the next. Claiming that triangulation is impossible, then using it to your own end in other scenarios.

You're not fooling anyone, and we both know that this includes yourself, but the profound unwillingness to accept the falsity of your position is based on the feeling of power and specialness those beliefs give you.


You may not be mentally ill; but the deep seated paranoia that your beliefs are generating may get you there. You're believing what you believe in order to establish a meaning and power in your life that you do not otherwise have; however as you expose your beliefs to more criticism here, you are having to quickly turn the world from what it is, to a subversive collection of organizations, people, and powers that are out to do you harm. The more you start believing this, the more it is going to rule your life, and start affecting your ability to function in this world.

You may or may not like it, Eld; but I am genuinely worried for your mental health.

Anyone ever told you you are boring as fvck? I couldn't get halfway through that attempt at a psychological evaluation. There was NOTHING useful in that babble. You want evidence? There was a whistleblower post on reddit(the post has since been taken down) that explains the Mandela effect, and how it is done. The whistleblower explained that he and other scientists were involved in a secret group where they were free to develop experiments with no worry about cost. They have been working on hacking the brain now for sometime. These scientists discovered a frequency at which all conscious humans use. He goes on to say they did successfully tap into that frequency and were able to control what ANYONE does, hears, sees, feels etc. by sending and intercepting signals to and from the brain, just as the TED talk video shows, just wirelessly. They are using the "abandoned" LHC IN Texas. So they change what we perceive This adequately explains the Mandela effect better than "parallel universes" or time travel, and is portrayed in "they live". Roddy Piper tweeted that the movie was in fact a documentary before he died.

No. You're just being irrationally paranoid; for the reasons I stated above; and it's only going to hurt you as a person.

Please explain what you think the Mandela effect is then. And spare me from reading a novel's worth of babbling.
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11/29/2016 10:25:09 PM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/29/2016 9:21:27 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 9:12:40 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/29/2016 9:06:11 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 8:25:46 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/29/2016 5:10:11 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
Scientists say that were all under mind control. Not really, but I know now that we are. There is no more free will.

You mention the Mandela effect but, in reality, what you are claiming here is not what the Mandela effect is, and is simply an example of your lack of understanding trying to present particular aspects of reality as supporting your point of view, without any logic, reason or critical thinking allowing you to justifiably link it.

You also horrifically abuse the word "know". You don't know. To know, you should be able to tell that the particular state of reality you claim to be true, is true; and the only way of you being able to do that is through evidence.

As we have all shown here, your ability to reason and critically examine evidence has not only been shown to be lacking; but the presentation of your arguments that allude to being just that have been shown to be bordering on fraudulently dishonest.


It seems you have a profound inability to analyze or correct your own position, or look at any conflicting data to your already established apriori position, which is preventing you from seeing facts, data and reality for what it is; seeing only the contorted sets of evidence that agree with you and dismissing all that does not. It is a systematic form of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias that holds your own position to the lowest possible burden of proof and level of scrutiny, and yet would allow you to dismiss arguments that the sky is blue should that position disagree with you.

It shouldn't be of any surprise that every single person that holds your irrational, and ridiculous positions cannot do maths, cannot seem to critically reason to any degree, and to frequently make mistakes and errors that no human being with even the most rudimentary understanding of reality should make. As I've said before, you make such rudimentary mistakes about maths, perspective, logic, reasoning and critical evaluation of the evidence you present, that even you should be able to review your trail of failures and conclude that there is something wrong with your thought process.

I don't know why you are like this, but I suspect, like many others, that there is something sorely and deeply lacking in your life; a sense of powerlessness, or a general fear of your mediocre position on this world that you seek to elevate your opinions and position higher than everyone else, and then defend your atrocious reasoning through conspiracy theories, poor reasoning and accusations of brain washing.

You know this, which is why you frequently resort to projection: being so uncomfortable and profoundly aware of the faults with your own reasoning and your own position that you must pretend and argue as if everyone that agrees with you has the profound faults you have that we will neither share, nor accept.

You have to call people liars, and that they have no evidence, that everyone else is as wrong as you know yourself to be; and you do so with no argument, no justification and no rationalization: whereas you frequently and demonstrably do the same; claiming you have a model in one thread, then denying it in the next. Claiming that triangulation is impossible, then using it to your own end in other scenarios.

You're not fooling anyone, and we both know that this includes yourself, but the profound unwillingness to accept the falsity of your position is based on the feeling of power and specialness those beliefs give you.


You may not be mentally ill; but the deep seated paranoia that your beliefs are generating may get you there. You're believing what you believe in order to establish a meaning and power in your life that you do not otherwise have; however as you expose your beliefs to more criticism here, you are having to quickly turn the world from what it is, to a subversive collection of organizations, people, and powers that are out to do you harm. The more you start believing this, the more it is going to rule your life, and start affecting your ability to function in this world.

You may or may not like it, Eld; but I am genuinely worried for your mental health.

Anyone ever told you you are boring as fvck? I couldn't get halfway through that attempt at a psychological evaluation. There was NOTHING useful in that babble. You want evidence? There was a whistleblower post on reddit(the post has since been taken down) that explains the Mandela effect, and how it is done. The whistleblower explained that he and other scientists were involved in a secret group where they were free to develop experiments with no worry about cost. They have been working on hacking the brain now for sometime. These scientists discovered a frequency at which all conscious humans use. He goes on to say they did successfully tap into that frequency and were able to control what ANYONE does, hears, sees, feels etc. by sending and intercepting signals to and from the brain, just as the TED talk video shows, just wirelessly. They are using the "abandoned" LHC IN Texas. So they change what we perceive This adequately explains the Mandela effect better than "parallel universes" or time travel, and is portrayed in "they live". Roddy Piper tweeted that the movie was in fact a documentary before he died.

No. You're just being irrationally paranoid; for the reasons I stated above; and it's only going to hurt you as a person.

Please explain what you think the Mandela effect is then. And spare me from reading a novel's worth of babbling.

Here's what would happen.

I explained what, in actuality, the Mandela effect is. I provide scientific rational, examples, definitions and cited sources from the positions of Pscyhology.

I then go onto explain the non-sensical nature of the claim and how this can be shown by various peices of evidence that if it's mind control, it's ridiculously crappy mind control, because it doesn't effect everyone at the same time; and if it doesn't, how can it be effective.

You, on the other hand, will ignore all of that, and reply with a nonsensical, and unrelated non explanation for how I'm wrong. You'll probably make a few basic mistakes based on a complete and total lack of understanding about the topics you've stated, then lie about having "conducted research" or one of the other aspects of your understanding in order to propogate your belief.

So lets skip that part, and go straight to the point where I explain how it seems facts are irrelevant, argument are irrelevant, and you are simply repeating the same conspiracy theories, poor science, misrepresentation and lies based on apriori beliefs that you want to keep convincing yourself of because, as I said, there is something lacking in your life that you need to deal with.

And so I will say again, your paranoia is hurting or will hurt you as a person if you go down this path that we both know you're taking. We both know you're wrong, we both know that you have a deep and niggling feeling about everything you say; but you are convincing yourself that the cause of this problem is because of someone else: in reality, that is what Cognitive dissonance feels like.
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11/29/2016 11:30:05 PM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/29/2016 10:25:09 PM, Ramshutu wrote:

Anyone ever told you you are boring as fvck? I couldn't get halfway through that attempt at a psychological evaluation. There was NOTHING useful in that babble. You want evidence? There was a whistleblower post on reddit(the post has since been taken down) that explains the Mandela effect, and how it is done. The whistleblower explained that he and other scientists were involved in a secret group where they were free to develop experiments with no worry about cost. They have been working on hacking the brain now for sometime. These scientists discovered a frequency at which all conscious humans use. He goes on to say they did successfully tap into that frequency and were able to control what ANYONE does, hears, sees, feels etc. by sending and intercepting signals to and from the brain, just as the TED talk video shows, just wirelessly. They are using the "abandoned" LHC IN Texas. So they change what we perceive This adequately explains the Mandela effect better than "parallel universes" or time travel, and is portrayed in "they live". Roddy Piper tweeted that the movie was in fact a documentary before he died.

No. You're just being irrationally paranoid; for the reasons I stated above; and it's only going to hurt you as a person.

Please explain what you think the Mandela effect is then. And spare me from reading a novel's worth of babbling.

Here's what would happen.

I explained what, in actuality, the Mandela effect is. I provide scientific rational, examples, definitions and cited sources from the positions of Pscyhology.

When did this happen? If it was in a post similar to the one you did earlier in this conversation, I must admit i probably ignored the insignificant drivel. You really gotta work on that sh!t.

I then go onto explain the non-sensical nature of the claim and how this can be shown by various peices of evidence that if it's mind control, it's ridiculously crappy mind control, because it doesn't effect everyone at the same time; and if it doesn't, how can it be effective.

Obviously not everyone has specific memories of some of these changes. Some have associated these memories with other things they know to be true, and can verify. The veil is being lifted, the end is nigh. If you want to debate the Mandela effect, I'd welcome the opportunity. I've done the research, and I'm sure I'll find an example you can't deny yourself.

You, on the other hand, will ignore all of that, and reply with a nonsensical, and unrelated non explanation for how I'm wrong. You'll probably make a few basic mistakes based on a complete and total lack of understanding about the topics you've stated, then lie about having "conducted research" or one of the other aspects of your understanding in order to propogate your belief.

http://www.debate.org...
The evidence says only multiplied since this debate.

So lets skip that part, and go straight to the point where I explain how it seems facts are irrelevant, argument are irrelevant, and you are simply repeating the same conspiracy theories, poor science, misrepresentation and lies based on apriori beliefs that you want to keep convincing yourself of because, as I said, there is something lacking in your life that you need to deal with.

You act like you know me. Why?

And so I will say again, your paranoia is hurting or will hurt you as a person if you go down this path that we both know you're taking. We both know you're wrong, we both know that you have a deep and niggling feeling about everything you say; but you are convincing yourself that the cause of this problem is because of someone else: in reality, that is what Cognitive dissonance feels like.

Don't persue a career in psychology, you suck at it.
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11/30/2016 12:57:11 AM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/29/2016 10:25:09 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/29/2016 9:21:27 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 9:12:40 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/29/2016 9:06:11 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 8:25:46 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/29/2016 5:10:11 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
Scientists say that were all under mind control. Not really, but I know now that we are. There is no more free will.

You mention the Mandela effect but, in reality, what you are claiming here is not what the Mandela effect is, and is simply an example of your lack of understanding trying to present particular aspects of reality as supporting your point of view, without any logic, reason or critical thinking allowing you to justifiably link it.

You also horrifically abuse the word "know". You don't know. To know, you should be able to tell that the particular state of reality you claim to be true, is true; and the only way of you being able to do that is through evidence.

As we have all shown here, your ability to reason and critically examine evidence has not only been shown to be lacking; but the presentation of your arguments that allude to being just that have been shown to be bordering on fraudulently dishonest.


It seems you have a profound inability to analyze or correct your own position, or look at any conflicting data to your already established apriori position, which is preventing you from seeing facts, data and reality for what it is; seeing only the contorted sets of evidence that agree with you and dismissing all that does not. It is a systematic form of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias that holds your own position to the lowest possible burden of proof and level of scrutiny, and yet would allow you to dismiss arguments that the sky is blue should that position disagree with you.

It shouldn't be of any surprise that every single person that holds your irrational, and ridiculous positions cannot do maths,

https://youtu.be...

cannot seem to critically reason to any degree, and to frequently make mistakes and errors that no human being with even the most rudimentary understanding of reality should make. As I've said before, you make such rudimentary mistakes about maths, perspective, logic, reasoning and critical evaluation of the evidence you present, that even you should be able to review your trail of failures and conclude that there is something wrong with your thought process.

I don't know why you are like this, but I suspect, like many others, that there is something sorely and deeply lacking in your life; a sense of powerlessness, or a general fear of your mediocre position on this world that you seek to elevate your opinions and position higher than everyone else, and then defend your atrocious reasoning through conspiracy theories, poor reasoning and accusations of brain washing.

You know this, which is why you frequently resort to projection: being so uncomfortable and profoundly aware of the faults with your own reasoning and your own position that you must pretend and argue as if everyone that agrees with you has the profound faults you have that we will neither share, nor accept.

You have to call people liars, and that they have no evidence, that everyone else is as wrong as you know yourself to be; and you do so with no argument, no justification and no rationalization: whereas you frequently and demonstrably do the same; claiming you have a model in one thread, then denying it in the next. Claiming that triangulation is impossible, then using it to your own end in other scenarios.

You're not fooling anyone, and we both know that this includes yourself, but the profound unwillingness to accept the falsity of your position is based on the feeling of power and specialness those beliefs give you.


You may not be mentally ill; but the deep seated paranoia that your beliefs are generating may get you there. You're believing what you believe in order to establish a meaning and power in your life that you do not otherwise have; however as you expose your beliefs to more criticism here, you are having to quickly turn the world from what it is, to a subversive collection of organizations, people, and powers that are out to do you harm. The more you start believing this, the more it is going to rule your life, and start affecting your ability to function in this world.

You may or may not like it, Eld; but I am genuinely worried for your mental health.

Anyone ever told you you are boring as fvck? I couldn't get halfway through that attempt at a psychological evaluation. There was NOTHING useful in that babble. You want evidence? There was a whistleblower post on reddit(the post has since been taken down) that explains the Mandela effect, and how it is done. The whistleblower explained that he and other scientists were involved in a secret group where they were free to develop experiments with no worry about cost. They have been working on hacking the brain now for sometime. These scientists discovered a frequency at which all conscious humans use. He goes on to say they did successfully tap into that frequency and were able to control what ANYONE does, hears, sees, feels etc. by sending and intercepting signals to and from the brain, just as the TED talk video shows, just wirelessly. They are using the "abandoned" LHC IN Texas. So they change what we perceive This adequately explains the Mandela effect better than "parallel universes" or time travel, and is portrayed in "they live". Roddy Piper tweeted that the movie was in fact a documentary before he died.

No. You're just being irrationally paranoid; for the reasons I stated above; and it's only going to hurt you as a person.

Please explain what you think the Mandela effect is then. And spare me from reading a novel's worth of babbling.

Here's what would happen.

I explained what, in actuality, the Mandela effect is. I provide scientific rational, examples, definitions and cited sources from the positions of Pscyhology.

I then go onto explain the non-sensical nature of the claim and how this can be shown by various peices of evidence that if it's mind control, it's ridiculously crappy mind control, because it doesn't effect everyone at the same time; and if it doesn't, how can it be effective.

You, on the other hand, will ignore all of that, and reply with a nonsensical, and unrelated non explanation for how I'm wrong. You'll probably make a few basic mistakes based on a complete and total lack of understanding about the topics you've stated, then lie about having "conducted research" or one of the other aspects of your understanding in order to propogate your belief.

So lets skip that part, and go straight to the point where I explain how it seems facts are irrelevant, argument are irrelevant, and you are simply repeating the same conspiracy theories, poor science, misrepresentation and lies based on apriori beliefs that you want to keep convincing yourself of because, as I said, there is something lacking in your life that you need to deal with.

And so I will say again, your paranoia is hurting or will hurt you as a person if you go down this path that we both know you're taking. We both know you're wrong, we both know that you have a deep and niggling feeling about everything you say; but you are convincing yourself that the cause of this problem is because of someone else: in reality, that is what Cognitive dissonance feels like.
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11/30/2016 1:06:15 AM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/29/2016 11:30:05 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 10:25:09 PM, Ramshutu wrote:

Anyone ever told you you are boring as fvck? I couldn't get halfway through that attempt at a psychological evaluation. There was NOTHING useful in that babble. You want evidence? There was a whistleblower post on reddit(the post has since been taken down) that explains the Mandela effect, and how it is done. The whistleblower explained that he and other scientists were involved in a secret group where they were free to develop experiments with no worry about cost. They have been working on hacking the brain now for sometime. These scientists discovered a frequency at which all conscious humans use. He goes on to say they did successfully tap into that frequency and were able to control what ANYONE does, hears, sees, feels etc. by sending and intercepting signals to and from the brain, just as the TED talk video shows, just wirelessly. They are using the "abandoned" LHC IN Texas. So they change what we perceive This adequately explains the Mandela effect better than "parallel universes" or time travel, and is portrayed in "they live". Roddy Piper tweeted that the movie was in fact a documentary before he died.

No. You're just being irrationally paranoid; for the reasons I stated above; and it's only going to hurt you as a person.

Please explain what you think the Mandela effect is then. And spare me from reading a novel's worth of babbling.

Here's what would happen.

I explained what, in actuality, the Mandela effect is. I provide scientific rational, examples, definitions and cited sources from the positions of Pscyhology.

When did this happen? If it was in a post similar to the one you did earlier in this conversation, I must admit i probably ignored the insignificant drivel. You really gotta work on that sh!t.

This has been your consistent and persistent pattern in every single one of our converastions; and as you are forming exactly the same pattern now, it is only valid to expect you would do the same thing again.

I then go onto explain the non-sensical nature of the claim and how this can be shown by various peices of evidence that if it's mind control, it's ridiculously crappy mind control, because it doesn't effect everyone at the same time; and if it doesn't, how can it be effective.

Obviously not everyone has specific memories of some of these changes. Some have associated these memories with other things they know to be true, and can verify. The veil is being lifted, the end is nigh. If you want to debate the Mandela effect, I'd welcome the opportunity. I've done the research, and I'm sure I'll find an example you can't deny yourself.

So again, you don't have evidence, and anything that deviates from your aprior assertions will be dismissed out of hand, without acknowledgement, or argument.

You're not making an argument; you are basically just asserting what you want to beleive. That is okay, but don't pretend like it's a valid postion.

You, on the other hand, will ignore all of that, and reply with a nonsensical, and unrelated non explanation for how I'm wrong. You'll probably make a few basic mistakes based on a complete and total lack of understanding about the topics you've stated, then lie about having "conducted research" or one of the other aspects of your understanding in order to propogate your belief.

http://www.debate.org...
The evidence says only multiplied since this debate.

No it hasn't. What has multiplied, is conspiracy theorists like yourself latching onto it, and trying to spin various occurences into something they are not, because you want to believe in some vast government conspiracy to allow you to deal with the complexity of the world, and your mediocre and low level position within it.

So lets skip that part, and go straight to the point where I explain how it seems facts are irrelevant, argument are irrelevant, and you are simply repeating the same conspiracy theories, poor science, misrepresentation and lies based on apriori beliefs that you want to keep convincing yourself of because, as I said, there is something lacking in your life that you need to deal with.

You act like you know me. Why?

Because you are not special, nor a unique snowflake, and the pattern you are following is the same as a great deal of conspiracy theorists, irrational idiots and paranoid borderline personality disorders, and most of them follow very similar patterns to you.

And so I will say again, your paranoia is hurting or will hurt you as a person if you go down this path that we both know you're taking. We both know you're wrong, we both know that you have a deep and niggling feeling about everything you say; but you are convincing yourself that the cause of this problem is because of someone else: in reality, that is what Cognitive dissonance feels like.

Don't persue a career in psychology, you suck at it.

As we all know, and has been well established, your level of expertise in most of what you talk about, is spectacularly low, as you are intellectually crippled by the apriori beliefs you have that prevent you from admitting any error in the slightest; and given the rudimentary errors you have continued to make in almost all topics in which you reply; your opinion here shall be filed adjacent to the toilet paper for emergencies only.
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11/30/2016 1:13:28 AM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/30/2016 12:57:11 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 10:25:09 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/29/2016 9:21:27 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 9:12:40 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/29/2016 9:06:11 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 8:25:46 PM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/29/2016 5:10:11 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
Scientists say that were all under mind control. Not really, but I know now that we are. There is no more free will.

You mention the Mandela effect but, in reality, what you are claiming here is not what the Mandela effect is, and is simply an example of your lack of understanding trying to present particular aspects of reality as supporting your point of view, without any logic, reason or critical thinking allowing you to justifiably link it.

You also horrifically abuse the word "know". You don't know. To know, you should be able to tell that the particular state of reality you claim to be true, is true; and the only way of you being able to do that is through evidence.

As we have all shown here, your ability to reason and critically examine evidence has not only been shown to be lacking; but the presentation of your arguments that allude to being just that have been shown to be bordering on fraudulently dishonest.


It seems you have a profound inability to analyze or correct your own position, or look at any conflicting data to your already established apriori position, which is preventing you from seeing facts, data and reality for what it is; seeing only the contorted sets of evidence that agree with you and dismissing all that does not. It is a systematic form of cognitive dissonance and confirmation bias that holds your own position to the lowest possible burden of proof and level of scrutiny, and yet would allow you to dismiss arguments that the sky is blue should that position disagree with you.

It shouldn't be of any surprise that every single person that holds your irrational, and ridiculous positions cannot do maths,

https://youtu.be...

As I said, despite you making innumerable mathematically based claims, every time you have been asked to critically examine something mathematical, you utterly fail.

In other examples, when clear cut maths that you obviously do not understand is presented, you reject all mathematics as "doesn't represent reality", or call it "an assumption".

So you don't know whether this guy is telling the truth or not, or whether he is correct; all you know is that you think he agrees with you; so his position is automatically valid, and everyone else isn't.

If I explained why he is wrong; you wouldn't understand that either as you have sufficient ability in mathematics to tell what is right from wrong.

Even if that were not true, and you had absolutely no argument to present to refute the mathematics, you can simply resort, as you have, to calling it an assumption or that it "doesn't represent reality", without any justification for it.

This is your self-evident hypocrisy, Eld; you present mathematics as if valid when it agrees with you; you repeatedly fail to demonstrate any appreciation of any mathematics, make such rudimentary mistakes that you should be embarrassed that you even felt capable of trying; and as a result, merely end up rejecting any mathematics for which the conclusion disagrees with you arbitrarily and out of hand; without giving any reasons for why the maths you use is valid and yet everyone else's is not.

This only goes to show that what the truth is doesn't matter to you; the only thing that matters is whether the words agree with you or not. If they agree with you, they are right, no matter how wrong they are; and vice versa.
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11/30/2016 2:25:38 AM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/30/2016 1:06:15 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/29/2016 11:30:05 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 10:25:09 PM, Ramshutu wrote:

Anyone ever told you you are boring as fvck? I couldn't get halfway through that attempt at a psychological evaluation. There was NOTHING useful in that babble. You want evidence? There was a whistleblower post on reddit(the post has since been taken down) that explains the Mandela effect, and how it is done. The whistleblower explained that he and other scientists were involved in a secret group where they were free to develop experiments with no worry about cost. They have been working on hacking the brain now for sometime. These scientists discovered a frequency at which all conscious humans use. He goes on to say they did successfully tap into that frequency and were able to control what ANYONE does, hears, sees, feels etc. by sending and intercepting signals to and from the brain, just as the TED talk video shows, just wirelessly. They are using the "abandoned" LHC IN Texas. So they change what we perceive This adequately explains the Mandela effect better than "parallel universes" or time travel, and is portrayed in "they live". Roddy Piper tweeted that the movie was in fact a documentary before he died.

No. You're just being irrationally paranoid; for the reasons I stated above; and it's only going to hurt you as a person.

Please explain what you think the Mandela effect is then. And spare me from reading a novel's worth of babbling.

Here's what would happen.

I explained what, in actuality, the Mandela effect is. I provide scientific rational, examples, definitions and cited sources from the positions of Pscyhology.

When did this happen? If it was in a post similar to the one you did earlier in this conversation, I must admit i probably ignored the insignificant drivel. You really gotta work on that sh!t.

This has been your consistent and persistent pattern in every single one of our converastions; and as you are forming exactly the same pattern now, it is only valid to expect you would do the same thing again.

This has been your consistent and persistent pattern in every single one of our converastions, you ignore any questions, evidence, or valid points being made, and proceed to attack my intelligence with irrelevant psychobabble, which is why you are largely ignored. This shows me that you have no argument. How is anybody supposed to take you seriously if you can't even answer a simple question? It appears that you really don't even care what I have to say you just want to get your two cents in. I'm not concerned about your psychological evaluations, if you can't address the evidence and/or logic stop engaging me. You are just another Dan, but with weed.

I then go onto explain the non-sensical nature of the claim and how this can be shown by various peices of evidence that if it's mind control, it's ridiculously crappy mind control, because it doesn't effect everyone at the same time; and if it doesn't, how can it be effective.

Obviously not everyone has specific memories of some of these changes. Some have associated these memories with other things they know to be true, and can verify. The veil is being lifted, the end is nigh. If you want to debate the Mandela effect, I'd welcome the opportunity. I've done the research, and I'm sure I'll find an example you can't deny yourself.

So again, you don't have evidence, and anything that deviates from your aprior assertions will be dismissed out of hand, without acknowledgement, or argument.

You're not making an argument; you are basically just asserting what you want to beleive. That is okay, but don't pretend like it's a valid postion.

I await your challenge to a formal debate you probably won't do it because you can't psychobabble in a formal debate because you don't have the characters lol.

You, on the other hand, will ignore all of that, and reply with a nonsensical, and unrelated non explanation for how I'm wrong. You'll probably make a few basic mistakes based on a complete and total lack of understanding about the topics you've stated, then lie about having "conducted research" or one of the other aspects of your understanding in order to propogate your belief.

http://www.debate.org...
The evidence says only multiplied since this debate.

No it hasn't. What has multiplied, is conspiracy theorists like yourself latching onto it, and trying to spin various occurences into something they are not, because you want to believe in some vast government conspiracy to allow you to deal with the complexity of the world, and your mediocre and low level position within it.

Irrelevant ad hominem psychobabble.

So lets skip that part, and go straight to the point where I explain how it seems facts are irrelevant, argument are irrelevant, and you are simply repeating the same conspiracy theories, poor science, misrepresentation and lies based on apriori beliefs that you want to keep convincing yourself of because, as I said, there is something lacking in your life that you need to deal with.

You act like you know me. Why?

Because you are not special, nor a unique snowflake, and the pattern you are following is the same as a great deal of conspiracy theorists, irrational idiots and paranoid borderline personality disorders, and most of them follow very similar patterns to you.

Repeatedly the whole freaking paragraph is your opinion of me, like 99% of your posts.

And so I will say again, your paranoia is hurting or will hurt you as a person if you go down this path that we both know you're taking. We both know you're wrong, we both know that you have a deep and niggling feeling about everything you say; but you are convincing yourself that the cause of this problem is because of someone else: in reality, that is what Cognitive dissonance feels like.

Don't persue a career in psychology, you suck at it.

As we all know, and has been well established, your level of expertise in most of what you talk about, is spectacularly low, as you are intellectually crippled by the apriori beliefs you have that prevent you from admitting any error in the slightest; and given the rudimentary errors you have continued to make in almost all topics in which you reply; your opinion here shall be filed adjacent to the toilet paper for emergencies only.

That's exactly what I've been saying about you because that's all you've offered, your opinion. 4 paragraphs of it there.
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11/30/2016 2:37:02 AM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/30/2016 2:25:38 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/30/2016 1:06:15 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/29/2016 11:30:05 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/29/2016 10:25:09 PM, Ramshutu wrote:

Anyone ever told you you are boring as fvck? I couldn't get halfway through that attempt at a psychological evaluation. There was NOTHING useful in that babble. You want evidence? There was a whistleblower post on reddit(the post has since been taken down) that explains the Mandela effect, and how it is done. The whistleblower explained that he and other scientists were involved in a secret group where they were free to develop experiments with no worry about cost. They have been working on hacking the brain now for sometime. These scientists discovered a frequency at which all conscious humans use. He goes on to say they did successfully tap into that frequency and were able to control what ANYONE does, hears, sees, feels etc. by sending and intercepting signals to and from the brain, just as the TED talk video shows, just wirelessly. They are using the "abandoned" LHC IN Texas. So they change what we perceive This adequately explains the Mandela effect better than "parallel universes" or time travel, and is portrayed in "they live". Roddy Piper tweeted that the movie was in fact a documentary before he died.

No. You're just being irrationally paranoid; for the reasons I stated above; and it's only going to hurt you as a person.

Please explain what you think the Mandela effect is then. And spare me from reading a novel's worth of babbling.

Here's what would happen.

I explained what, in actuality, the Mandela effect is. I provide scientific rational, examples, definitions and cited sources from the positions of Pscyhology.

When did this happen? If it was in a post similar to the one you did earlier in this conversation, I must admit i probably ignored the insignificant drivel. You really gotta work on that sh!t.

This has been your consistent and persistent pattern in every single one of our converastions; and as you are forming exactly the same pattern now, it is only valid to expect you would do the same thing again.

This has been your consistent and persistent pattern in every single one of our converastions, you ignore any questions, evidence, or valid points being made, and proceed to attack my intelligence with irrelevant psychobabble, which is why you are largely ignored. This shows me that you have no argument. How is anybody supposed to take you seriously if you can't even answer a simple question? It appears that you really don't even care what I have to say you just want to get your two cents in. I'm not concerned about your psychological evaluations, if you can't address the evidence and/or logic stop engaging me. You are just another Dan, but with weed

This is projection. I have spent innumerable numbers of posts detailing exactly every single point in which you were wrong in your assertions.

You on the other hand, repeatedly fail to answer any of my points; and I am sure I can find at least 50 individual detailed points which you have failed to answer.

What you call "Pscyobabble", is pointing out the only rational explanation for your repeated dishonety, irrationality, paranoia, and elevation of your own opinion despite failing on the most basic principles of critical thinking.

I then go onto explain the non-sensical nature of the claim and how this can be shown by various peices of evidence that if it's mind control, it's ridiculously crappy mind control, because it doesn't effect everyone at the same time; and if it doesn't, how can it be effective.

Obviously not everyone has specific memories of some of these changes. Some have associated these memories with other things they know to be true, and can verify. The veil is being lifted, the end is nigh. If you want to debate the Mandela effect, I'd welcome the opportunity. I've done the research, and I'm sure I'll find an example you can't deny yourself.

So again, you don't have evidence, and anything that deviates from your aprior assertions will be dismissed out of hand, without acknowledgement, or argument.

You're not making an argument; you are basically just asserting what you want to beleive. That is okay, but don't pretend like it's a valid postion.

I await your challenge to a formal debate you probably won't do it because you can't psychobabble in a formal debate because you don't have the characters lol.

You, on the other hand, will ignore all of that, and reply with a nonsensical, and unrelated non explanation for how I'm wrong. You'll probably make a few basic mistakes based on a complete and total lack of understanding about the topics you've stated, then lie about having "conducted research" or one of the other aspects of your understanding in order to propogate your belief.

http://www.debate.org...
The evidence says only multiplied since this debate.

No it hasn't. What has multiplied, is conspiracy theorists like yourself latching onto it, and trying to spin various occurences into something they are not, because you want to believe in some vast government conspiracy to allow you to deal with the complexity of the world, and your mediocre and low level position within it.

Irrelevant ad hominem psychobabble.

So lets skip that part, and go straight to the point where I explain how it seems facts are irrelevant, argument are irrelevant, and you are simply repeating the same conspiracy theories, poor science, misrepresentation and lies based on apriori beliefs that you want to keep convincing yourself of because, as I said, there is something lacking in your life that you need to deal with.

You act like you know me. Why?

Because you are not special, nor a unique snowflake, and the pattern you are following is the same as a great deal of conspiracy theorists, irrational idiots and paranoid borderline personality disorders, and most of them follow very similar patterns to you.

Repeatedly the whole freaking paragraph is your opinion of me, like 99% of your posts.

Actually no. Most of my posts are showing you how you are wrong. You ignore them; refuse to acknowledge arguments, to the point of insanity; and such my only possible avenue is trying to explain in detail how irrational and paranoid you are being.

And so I will say again, your paranoia is hurting or will hurt you as a person if you go down this path that we both know you're taking. We both know you're wrong, we both know that you have a deep and niggling feeling about everything you say; but you are convincing yourself that the cause of this problem is because of someone else: in reality, that is what Cognitive dissonance feels like.

Don't persue a career in psychology, you suck at it.

That's exactly what I've been saying about you because that's all you've offered, your opinion. 4 paragraphs of it there.

However, I can demonstrate everything I'm saying by referring to your posts and giving examples; you have to consistently distort, misrepresent, lie, assert and otherwise dishonestly project onto me the faults you know you have and I will not share.

You see, and we both know I can refer back to the posts where you have acted just like this; you have no ability to demonstrate anything you say as I have not done the same.

This is your problem, Eld; you are detatching yourself from reality. Nothing you are saying is demonstrable or true, in fact it's thus far one of the most flagrantly dishonest and inaccurate suggestion you have made thus far; and we both know it.
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11/30/2016 2:38:40 AM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/29/2016 9:06:11 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:

Anyone ever told you you are boring as fvck?

There are but a small handful of good writers on this forum, who have mastered the use of the English language such that their vastly superior intellects flow out effortlessly with succinctness and clarity, one can easily understand and be entertained by their prose.

You've barely able to tie your shoes. How could you possibly appreciate words.
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11/30/2016 4:09:33 AM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/30/2016 2:37:02 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
This is projection. I have spent innumerable numbers of posts detailing exactly every single point in which you were wrong in your assertions.

You on the other hand, repeatedly fail to answer any of my points; and I am sure I can find at least 50 individual detailed points which you have failed to answer.

Please by all means link me to the post where you presented any point related to the Mandela effect.

What you call "Pscyobabble", is pointing out the only rational explanation for your repeated dishonety, irrationality, paranoia, and elevation of your own opinion despite failing on the most basic principles of critical thinking.

What do you mean "what I call" ? That is the definition of every post you have engaged me in.

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I await your challenge to a formal debate you probably won't do it because you can't psychobabble in a formal debate because you don't have the characters lol.

I insist, don't dodge.


Repeatedly the whole freaking paragraph is your opinion of me, like 99% of your posts.

Actually no. Most of my posts are showing you how you are wrong. You ignore them; refuse to acknowledge arguments, to the point of insanity; and such my only possible avenue is trying to explain in detail how irrational and paranoid you are being.

Please show me how I am wrong. I'll continue to ignore the ad hominem. You are aware of MKUltra? It's been proven.
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This is called a point. I have not formulated an opinion of you and asserting it. There is evidence for this point, see how that works? Now is the time for you to form a counterargument, which should consist of no opinions, just a logical explanation or refutation. Show me where I am wrong.


However, I can demonstrate everything I'm saying by referring to your posts and giving examples; you have to consistently distort, misrepresent, lie, assert and otherwise dishonestly project onto me the faults you know you have and I will not share.

I don't know why I continue wasting my time. Every post here is your opinion of me. No points, no evidence, nothing but garbage.

You see, and we both know I can refer back to the posts where you have acted just like this; you have no ability to demonstrate anything you say as I have not done the same.

All I see here that remotely relates to the OP is " if it's mind control, it's ridiculously crappy mind control, because it doesn't effect everyone at the same time; and if it doesn't, how can it be effective."

No wonder you wanted to skip it. Fvcking weak.

This is your problem, Eld; you are detatching yourself from reality. Nothing you are saying is demonstrable or true, in fact it's thus far one of the most fla

I have to tell you, as soon as I see the word "you" in most of this garbage, I'm just skimming. Predictable. I'm not interested in your opinion of me.
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11/30/2016 4:10:39 AM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/30/2016 2:38:40 AM, DanneJeRusse wrote:
At 11/29/2016 9:06:11 PM, Edlvsjd wrote:

Anyone ever told you you are boring as fvck?

There are but a small handful of good writers on this forum, who have mastered the use of the English language such that their vastly superior intellects flow out effortlessly with succinctness and clarity, one can easily understand and be entertained by their prose.

You've barely able to tie your shoes. How could you possibly appreciate words.

Dan do you suck his d ALL the time?
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11/30/2016 5:05:29 AM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/30/2016 4:09:33 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/30/2016 2:37:02 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
This is projection. I have spent innumerable numbers of posts detailing exactly every single point in which you were wrong in your assertions.

You on the other hand, repeatedly fail to answer any of my points; and I am sure I can find at least 50 individual detailed points which you have failed to answer.

Please by all means link me to the post where you presented any point related to the Mandela effect.

"This has been your consistent and persistent pattern in every single one of our converastions, you ignore any questions, evidence, or valid points being made"

This is what you said; so you start off talking about every time we engage; now it's just the mandela effect?

And, specifically, I answered your point above; by explaining that any answer I give would be irrelevant, and a justification of why I think that is.

This is one of the many examples of you being dishonestly incoherent. You talk about every post; then when I point out you cannot justify yourself, you switch the argument to one specific thing; one in which I have definitively given you an answer, which is RIGHT THERE above.

What you call "Pscyobabble", is pointing out the only rational explanation for your repeated dishonety, irrationality, paranoia, and elevation of your own opinion despite failing on the most basic principles of critical thinking.

What do you mean "what I call" ? That is the definition of every post you have engaged me in.

http://www.dictionary.com...

So maths is Pscyhobabble? Science is Pscyhobabble? Pointing out you saying one thing in one thread, and another thing in another post that contradicts it is pscyhobable? Arguments explaining the details of why you are wrong in terms of your reasoning?

No. No it isn't Pscyhobabble as 99% of every post we have shared has included facts, mathematics, and an argument.

Now, I will point out Pscyhobabble is defined by lack of relevance and accuracy.

In these terms, no. You're incoherence, and incompetence is a matter of record.

As is your projection: in that you have repeatedly accused me of every single one of the systematic patterns which you cannot show for me, but is easily demonstrable with you.

You are paranoid; as you repeatedly invoke conspiracy theories with a level of incoherence that borders on a genuine paranoid personality disorder.

So no; what I am saying is both highly relevant; and accurate.

I await your challenge to a formal debate you probably won't do it because you can't psychobabble in a formal debate because you don't have the characters lol.

I insist, don't dodge.

Why?

You are utterly disinterested in discussing, or proving yourself right. You are unwilling to concede any level of incorrectness in any way, and refuse to acknowledge any errors.

You are flagrantly dishonest and simply engage in rhetorical techniques that is about trying to sound like your position is valid, whilst shifting the burden of proof, instigating a Gish-Gallop style argument, and generally asserting your way into an argument with single sentence justifications that require long posts to refute.

If you are unwilling to be honest, engage, and enter into an intellectual discussion when there are no limits to that discussion; why do you insist on a medium with limits that merely serve to give your insanity and dishonesty a rhetorical and not factual advantage?

Repeatedly the whole freaking paragraph is your opinion of me, like 99% of your posts.

Actually no. Most of my posts are showing you how you are wrong. You ignore them; refuse to acknowledge arguments, to the point of insanity; and such my only possible avenue is trying to explain in detail how irrational and paranoid you are being.

Please show me how I am wrong. I'll continue to ignore the ad hominem. You are aware of MKUltra? It's been proven.
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This is called a point. I have not formulated an opinion of you and asserting it. There is evidence for this point, see how that works? Now is the time for you to form a counterargument, which should consist of no opinions, just a logical explanation or refutation. Show me where I am wrong.

As I said; it doesn't matter what I could possibly say; you will not accept anything that disagrees with you, and will resort to a series of rhetorical methods to simply reject anything I say out of hand.

It is not possible to enter a rational discussion with you about this; and as a result, I am pointing out that your pattern of discussion is dishonest, incoherent and irrational.

Your character is very much relevant to this discussion as my arguments here is fundamentally addressing your fundamental issues in understanding, and explains in detail why you believe this insanity.

However, I can demonstrate everything I'm saying by referring to your posts and giving examples; you have to consistently distort, misrepresent, lie, assert and otherwise dishonestly project onto me the faults you know you have and I will not share.

I don't know why I continue wasting my time. Every post here is your opinion of me. No points, no evidence, nothing but garbage.

I have been making a series of highly specific points, together with justifications, I have given specific number of examples of your dishonesty, your behavior, and examples of when you have lied, or otherwise misrepresented your examples.

You, however, have simply systematically said I am wrong, without argument, simply with dismissal.

That you claim I have done none of that; and you have done all of that in almost every one of your posts, and your reply BEAUTIFULLY demonstrates your own incoherence which illustrates the entire point I have been making throughout this thread.

You see, and we both know I can refer back to the posts where you have acted just like this; you have no ability to demonstrate anything you say as I have not done the same.

All I see here that remotely relates to the OP is " if it's mind control, it's ridiculously crappy mind control, because it doesn't effect everyone at the same time; and if it doesn't, how can it be effective."

No wonder you wanted to skip it. Fvcking weak.

The OP is irrelevant. It is, and your responses, is a symptom of your own lack of critical thinking; critical thinking that extends to the arguments you make, and your analysis any arguments I provide.

You either cannot, or will not logically view any points I make, and unless you address that, any discussion is meaningless.

Hence, I am highlighting your systematic problems of critical thinking with the hope that it will allow you to understand and appreciate any response I could give.

This is your problem, Eld; you are detatching yourself from reality. Nothing you are saying is demonstrable or true, in fact it's thus far one of the most fla

I have to tell you, as soon as I see the word "you" in most of this garbage, I'm just skimming. Predictable. I'm not interested in your opinion of me.

As I have said, you repeatedly dismiss or ignore key points for whatever reason you feel you can get away with.

I am saying you cannot show anything you are saying. Very little of what you say at any point is demonstrable, or true.

You know this, which is why you aren't even bothering to do so. You are making the accusation; and when it's veracity is questioned, your present an excuse for not answering.

This, like so much else of what you say, is dishonest.
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11/30/2016 6:12:46 AM
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At 11/30/2016 5:05:29 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
not a single relevant word.

We're obviously not going to agree on any other things. Please explain, in detail anything you would like to, about the OP in spite of what you say, it is relevant, or take it back to the original topic you are discussing. Oh wait you arent. In other words, put up or shut up.
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11/30/2016 6:39:09 AM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/30/2016 6:12:46 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/30/2016 5:05:29 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
not a single relevant word.

We're obviously not going to agree on any other things. Please explain, in detail anything you would like to, about the OP in spite of what you say, it is relevant, or take it back to the original topic you are discussing. Oh wait you arent. In other words, put up or shut up.

As I said, what is relevant to the OP, is that you have no evidence for anything that you've claimed, and given historical posting on your part; there is nothing anyone could ever say, no matter how well reasoned, justified or evidence based that will ever change your mind.

The reason for this, is you seem to be judging evidence not by it's veracity, but by whether it agrees with you. I gave the example of mathematics: you agree you are not an expert in mathematics, you have repeatedly failed in the most rudimentary mathematical challenges, and yet accept without argument a youtube video that disagrees with you, even though you do not have the mathematical ability of ascertaining it's validity, leave alone understanding or accepting the validity of any counter example.

Moreover, as I also said; you reject mathematics as "assumption", or "not representative of reality" when a fundamental disproof of your position is presented in mathematical form; only to claim that it's not when you feel you have mathematics on your side.

You have built up a wall around your own opinion to which facts and reason cannot penetrate.

In addition the course of our discussions prior to this you have claimed triangulation both can't work, and then can work; you have claimed that the atmosphere can bend light, and can't, that it isn't possible for an atmospheric effect to last a few hours, and also claim atmospheric effects that have been consistent for hundreds of years. You have claimed the moon should look 1/4th the size of the earth regardless of distance, you have claimed that the earth being a different size in a different picture can only be achieved by being further away, that a picture that has been edited and stitched is an unaltered picture and yet you are an know how to detect altered images. You have claimed that fields that can be shown to be designed with inclines for drainage are flat, claimed that out of the sun the moon should be pitch black, then claim a non pitch-black moon is out of the sun, you have asserted videos last all day when it's obvious that they aren't. You have claimed the sun changes in size, and then that it doesn't change in size because of atmospheric effects. You have posted images you claim show no curvature, but when analyzed in detail appear to show exactly the curvature that is mathematically expected; and I may add got a simple mathematics problem wrong three times, including once after being given the answer in between repeatedly claiming that you had a model, then saying you don't have a model when challenged to explain what the model is. Almost all of these examples are assertions on your part, statements made without justification or argument, and simply thrown out as if being able to make a claim is the same thing as justifying it.

You are systematically wrong in most of what you have said; you are repeatedly shown to be incoherent, and bordering on dishonest; because you have ignored every single time these inconsistencies have been mentioned, and I'm sure you will do so again in this post.

Is this relevant to the OP? Absolutely:

Like before, you have no evidence to support your position, and it's clear that if you're willing to be as incoherent as you have been in the past, it doesn't matter what other evidence is presented to you.

You're arguing and making assertions as if you believe your opinion is valid, and holds logical weight; and yet such this opinion is thoroughly undeserved given the the forum debris that your trainwreck of incoherence has left strewn through all of your posts and I summarized above.

How is this relevant?

If I am to present you evidence in a constructive post; you must be able to critically examine that evidence. At this time, the evidence fundamentally shows that you are unable to do so, and instead will reject anything presented out of hand, as evidenced by the above.

So, to hold a constructive argument with you, the first step is to make you able to examine the evidence critically and as you cannot be reasoned with in any other way; the only way remaining to me to do so, is to present you with the evidence of just how irrational, illogical and incoherent you are in every other post you have made so that you appreciate how utterly flawed your own reasoning and intelligence is.
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11/30/2016 6:53:27 AM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/30/2016 6:39:09 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/30/2016 6:12:46 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/30/2016 5:05:29 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
not a single relevant word.

We're obviously not going to agree on any other things. Please explain, in detail anything you would like to, about the OP in spite of what you say, it is relevant, or take it back to the original topic you are discussing. Oh wait you arent. In other words, put up or shut up.

As I said, what is relevant to the OP, is that you have no evidence for anything that you've claimed, and given historical posting on your part; there is nothing anyone could ever say, no matter how well reasoned, justified or evidence based that will ever change your mind.

The reason for this, is you seem to be judging evidence not by it's veracity, but by whether it agrees with you. I gave the example of mathematics: you agree you are not an expert in mathematics, you have repeatedly failed in the most rudimentary mathematical challenges, and yet accept without argument a youtube video that disagrees with you, even though you do not have the mathematical ability of ascertaining it's validity, leave alone understanding or accepting the validity of any counter example.

Moreover, as I also said; you reject mathematics as "assumption", or "not representative of reality" when a fundamental disproof of your position is presented in mathematical form; only to claim that it's not when you feel you have mathematics on your side.

You have built up a wall around your own opinion to which facts and reason cannot penetrate.

In addition the course of our discussions prior to this you have claimed triangulation both can't work, and then can work; you have claimed that the atmosphere can bend light, and can't, that it isn't possible for an atmospheric effect to last a few hours, and also claim atmospheric effects that have been consistent for hundreds of years. You have claimed the moon should look 1/4th the size of the earth regardless of distance,
you have claimed that the earth being a different size in a different picture can only be achieved by being further away, that a picture that has been edited and stitched is an unaltered picture and yet you are an know how to detect altered images. You have claimed that fields that can be shown to be designed with inclines for drainage are flat, claimed that out of the sun the moon should be pitch black, then claim a non pitch-black moon is out of the sun, you have asserted videos last all day when it's obvious that they aren't. You have claimed the sun changes in size, and then that it doesn't change in size because of atmospheric effects. You have posted images you claim show no curvature, but when analyzed in detail appear to show exactly the curvature that is mathematically expected; and I may add got a simple mathematics problem wrong three times, including once after being given the answer in between repeatedly claiming that you had a model, then saying you don't have a model when challenged to explain what the model is. Almost all of these examples are assertions on your part, statements made without justification or argument, and simply thrown out as if being able to make a claim is the same thing as justifying it.

You are systematically wrong in most of what you have said; you are repeatedly shown to be incoherent, and bordering on dishonest; because you have ignored every single time these inconsistencies have been mentioned, and I'm sure you will do so again in this post.


Is this relevant to the OP? Absolutely:

Like before, you have no evidence to support your position, and it's clear that if you're willing to be as incoherent as you have been in the past, it doesn't matter what other evidence is presented to you.

You're arguing and making assertions as if you believe your opinion is valid, and holds logical weight; and yet such this opinion is thoroughly undeserved given the the forum debris that your trainwreck of incoherence has left strewn through all of your posts and I summarized above.


How is this relevant?

If I am to present you evidence in a constructive post; you must be able to critically examine that evidence. At this time, the evidence fundamentally shows that you are unable to do so, and instead will reject anything presented out of hand, as evidenced by the above.

So, to hold a constructive argument with you, the first step is to make you able to examine the evidence critically and as you cannot be reasoned with in any other way; the only way remaining to me to do so, is to present you with the evidence of just how irrational, illogical and incoherent you are in every other post you have made so that you appreciate how utterly flawed your own reasoning and intelligence is.

So, you're saying more or less that you have no argument...
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11/30/2016 6:59:04 AM
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At 11/30/2016 6:39:09 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
Another 20,000 character post of irrelevant dodgery.

Do you think all conspiracytheories are bbish?
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11/30/2016 7:05:53 AM
Posted: 5 days ago
At 11/30/2016 6:53:27 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/30/2016 6:39:09 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/30/2016 6:12:46 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/30/2016 5:05:29 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
not a single relevant word.

We're obviously not going to agree on any other things. Please explain, in detail anything you would like to, about the OP in spite of what you say, it is relevant, or take it back to the original topic you are discussing. Oh wait you arent. In other words, put up or shut up.

As I said, what is relevant to the OP, is that you have no evidence for anything that you've claimed, and given historical posting on your part; there is nothing anyone could ever say, no matter how well reasoned, justified or evidence based that will ever change your mind.

The reason for this, is you seem to be judging evidence not by it's veracity, but by whether it agrees with you. I gave the example of mathematics: you agree you are not an expert in mathematics, you have repeatedly failed in the most rudimentary mathematical challenges, and yet accept without argument a youtube video that disagrees with you, even though you do not have the mathematical ability of ascertaining it's validity, leave alone understanding or accepting the validity of any counter example.

Moreover, as I also said; you reject mathematics as "assumption", or "not representative of reality" when a fundamental disproof of your position is presented in mathematical form; only to claim that it's not when you feel you have mathematics on your side.

You have built up a wall around your own opinion to which facts and reason cannot penetrate.

In addition the course of our discussions prior to this you have claimed triangulation both can't work, and then can work; you have claimed that the atmosphere can bend light, and can't, that it isn't possible for an atmospheric effect to last a few hours, and also claim atmospheric effects that have been consistent for hundreds of years. You have claimed the moon should look 1/4th the size of the earth regardless of distance,
you have claimed that the earth being a different size in a different picture can only be achieved by being further away, that a picture that has been edited and stitched is an unaltered picture and yet you are an know how to detect altered images. You have claimed that fields that can be shown to be designed with inclines for drainage are flat, claimed that out of the sun the moon should be pitch black, then claim a non pitch-black moon is out of the sun, you have asserted videos last all day when it's obvious that they aren't. You have claimed the sun changes in size, and then that it doesn't change in size because of atmospheric effects. You have posted images you claim show no curvature, but when analyzed in detail appear to show exactly the curvature that is mathematically expected; and I may add got a simple mathematics problem wrong three times, including once after being given the answer in between repeatedly claiming that you had a model, then saying you don't have a model when challenged to explain what the model is. Almost all of these examples are assertions on your part, statements made without justification or argument, and simply thrown out as if being able to make a claim is the same thing as justifying it.

You are systematically wrong in most of what you have said; you are repeatedly shown to be incoherent, and bordering on dishonest; because you have ignored every single time these inconsistencies have been mentioned, and I'm sure you will do so again in this post.


Is this relevant to the OP? Absolutely:

Like before, you have no evidence to support your position, and it's clear that if you're willing to be as incoherent as you have been in the past, it doesn't matter what other evidence is presented to you.

You're arguing and making assertions as if you believe your opinion is valid, and holds logical weight; and yet such this opinion is thoroughly undeserved given the the forum debris that your trainwreck of incoherence has left strewn through all of your posts and I summarized above.


How is this relevant?

If I am to present you evidence in a constructive post; you must be able to critically examine that evidence. At this time, the evidence fundamentally shows that you are unable to do so, and instead will reject anything presented out of hand, as evidenced by the above.

So, to hold a constructive argument with you, the first step is to make you able to examine the evidence critically and as you cannot be reasoned with in any other way; the only way remaining to me to do so, is to present you with the evidence of just how irrational, illogical and incoherent you are in every other post you have made so that you appreciate how utterly flawed your own reasoning and intelligence is.

So, you're saying more or less that you have no argument...

No, as I said; the evidence and examples I provided shows you have a demonstrable inability to argue coherently or rationally; you frequently argue from contradictory positions, and accept anything that agrees with you, and dismiss anything that does not.

This is a matter of record, that at no point anywhere have you defended in any way other than to simply assert that I'm wrong; as if typing the words "you're wrong" somehow means more than the actual real posts you made where you said one thing, then contradicted yourself in another.

I of course have an argument, which is supported by evidence, and best fits all the facts.

But, given your utter lack of ability to critically reason, or analyze facts as evidenced by the the previous examples presenting it will be neither constructive, nor useful because you will resort to incoherence before accepting an argument that disagrees with you.

Hence, I have to draw your attention to the fact that the brain you are using to critically examine claims, and evidence; is the same one that is so absurdly incoherent in every other post.

I suspect you know this, in which case keeping bringing it up, and drawing your attention to it is going to promote cognitive dissonance and discomfort that you may be able to reasonably confront. Or you don't know this, in which case drawing your attention to it may help you realize how poor your reasoning skills are and lower your confidence in your own position to a more reasonable level.
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11/30/2016 7:11:27 AM
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At 11/30/2016 6:59:04 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/30/2016 6:39:09 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
Another 20,000 character post of irrelevant dodgery.

Do you think all conspiracytheories are bbish?

I'm pointing out evidence, reasoning; providing justification and argument to why it is relevant and pertinent to the post; I am clarifying and referencing my previous posts in this thread to explain both what I'm arguing and why I'm arguing.

You are addressing none of it: you again cease to defend your own contradictions, lack of critical thinking, and repeated incoherence. You have repeatedly claimed I am the one being dishonest (demonstrably untrue), that I am engaging in pscyhobabble (demonstrably untrue), that I am not making an argument (demonstrably untrue), that I am dodging (demonstrably untrue), that I am simply making assertions (demonstrably untrue), and that I am not providing justifications (demonstrably untrue).

You may not like it, but I am responding to the OP, it is relevant and pertinent to the OP, and have justified why.

In a beautiful twist of irony; every single one of your accusations and replies demonstrate, in beautiful exactitude, every irrational and dishonest tactic I have claimed you engage in repeatedly.
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11/30/2016 7:36:34 AM
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At 11/30/2016 7:11:27 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
At 11/30/2016 6:59:04 AM, Edlvsjd wrote:
At 11/30/2016 6:39:09 AM, Ramshutu wrote:
Another 20,000 character post of irrelevant dodgery.

Do you think all conspiracytheories are bbish?

I'm pointing out evidence, reasoning; providing justification and argument to why it is relevant and pertinent to the post; I am clarifying and referencing my previous posts in this thread to explain both what I'm arguing and why I'm arguing.

You are addressing none of it: you again cease to defend your own contradictions, lack of critical thinking, and repeated incoherence. You have repeatedly claimed I am the one being dishonest (demonstrably untrue), that I am engaging in pscyhobabble (demonstrably untrue), that I am not making an argument (demonstrably untrue), that I am dodging (demonstrably untrue), that I am simply making assertions (demonstrably untrue), and that I am not providing justifications (demonstrably untrue).

You may not like it, but I am responding to the OP, it is relevant and pertinent to the OP, and have justified why.

In a beautiful twist of irony; every single one of your accusations and replies demonstrate, in beautiful exactitude, every irrational and dishonest tactic I have claimed you engage in repeatedly.

Why exactly are you dodging so hard, and turning attention to your lies and opinions about me? What exactly do you consider as evidence? If the media announced it at 7oclock?? If I would show you mathematically that Forest Gumps famous line was "Life IS like a box of chocolates"? Should I draw a diagram of James Earl Jones doing his Famous line the correct, original way "Luke, I'm your father" on the today show? You claim there is no evidence, but the evidence is the Mandela effect. You are purposely avoiding this. You would disagree with me if your name was Berenstein. You probably do believe every word they tell you without question. Read 1984.
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