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artwomyn
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3/13/2011 1:02:26 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
This recession has been awful for everyone. Especially African Americans, who have an unemployment rate, that's twice the rate for whites. If you're an African American, how has this recession treated you financially? Do you think that the recession, has destroyed your chances for upward mobility?
askbob
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3/13/2011 1:05:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I think that the white people created the recession to harm us colored people.
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djsherin
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3/13/2011 1:28:41 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I agree with Askbob. Just as George Bush and the Republicans used their weather machines to cause Hurricane Katrina and then ordered the Army to blow up the levees to drown all the black people, they also created the financial crisis to destroy opportunities and jobs for blacks.
Danielle
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3/13/2011 1:45:18 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Notice how the OP made absolutely no indication that the recession only impacted whites or was somehow a white ploy to oppress blacks, yet the two people who responded did so sarcastically taking a completely defensive approach in assuming the OP is crying racism. Guilty conscience much?

The OP's statistic is correct, so the reaction was unwarranted. However, I don't see the need to single out African Americans as if they are somehow being specifically oppressed in this economy. Of course past injustices coupled with current policy has an impact on this figure, but I think the situation sucks for pretty much everyone. I am however not ignorant to my white privilege.
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artwomyn
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3/13/2011 1:55:17 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/13/2011 1:45:18 PM, Danielle wrote:
Notice how the OP made absolutely no indication that the recession only impacted whites or was somehow a white ploy to oppress blacks, yet the two people who responded did so sarcastically taking a completely defensive approach in assuming the OP is crying racism. Guilty conscience much?

The OP's statistic is correct, so the reaction was unwarranted. However, I don't see the need to single out African Americans as if they are somehow being specifically oppressed in this economy. Of course past injustices coupled with current policy has an impact on this figure, but I think the situation sucks for pretty much everyone. I am however not ignorant to my white privilege.

Thanks for your support. I was just trying to find out how the recession has impacted African Americans, based on their own experiences, and their hopes for the future.
J.Kenyon
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3/13/2011 1:59:45 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/13/2011 1:45:18 PM, Danielle wrote:
Notice how the OP made absolutely no indication that the recession only impacted whites or was somehow a white ploy to oppress blacks, yet the two people who responded did so sarcastically taking a completely defensive approach in assuming the OP is crying racism. Guilty conscience much?

Djsherin is black...
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3/13/2011 2:11:20 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/13/2011 1:02:26 PM, artwomyn wrote:
This recession has been awful for everyone. Especially African Americans, who have an unemployment rate, that's twice the rate for whites. If you're an African American, how has this recession treated you financially? Do you think that the recession, has destroyed your chances for upward mobility?

I'm not black, but when I go to my friends' places, most of them look like they've been lowered a class. In just my town, I know of like 2 divorces at least it's caused.
"Science is interesting, and if you don't agree, you can fvck off." - Richard Dawkins
djsherin
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3/13/2011 4:24:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/13/2011 1:55:17 PM, artwomyn wrote:
At 3/13/2011 1:45:18 PM, Danielle wrote:
Notice how the OP made absolutely no indication that the recession only impacted whites or was somehow a white ploy to oppress blacks, yet the two people who responded did so sarcastically taking a completely defensive approach in assuming the OP is crying racism. Guilty conscience much?

The OP's statistic is correct, so the reaction was unwarranted. However, I don't see the need to single out African Americans as if they are somehow being specifically oppressed in this economy. Of course past injustices coupled with current policy has an impact on this figure, but I think the situation sucks for pretty much everyone. I am however not ignorant to my white privilege.

Thanks for your support. I was just trying to find out how the recession has impacted African Americans, based on their own experiences, and their hopes for the future.

Wasn't trying to make fun of you or anything, just having a little fun with it.
As for me, it hasn't really affected me at all (not directly at least). My job prospectives are fairly "recession proof".
djsherin
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3/13/2011 4:28:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/13/2011 1:59:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 3/13/2011 1:45:18 PM, Danielle wrote:
Notice how the OP made absolutely no indication that the recession only impacted whites or was somehow a white ploy to oppress blacks, yet the two people who responded did so sarcastically taking a completely defensive approach in assuming the OP is crying racism. Guilty conscience much?

Djsherin is black...

But I'm also a fourth white, so it's possible part of me feels guilty about the harm some of my ancestors have caused some of my other ancestors :(
askbob
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3/13/2011 5:35:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/13/2011 4:28:11 PM, djsherin wrote:
At 3/13/2011 1:59:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 3/13/2011 1:45:18 PM, Danielle wrote:
Notice how the OP made absolutely no indication that the recession only impacted whites or was somehow a white ploy to oppress blacks, yet the two people who responded did so sarcastically taking a completely defensive approach in assuming the OP is crying racism. Guilty conscience much?

Djsherin is black...

But I'm also a fourth white, so it's possible part of me feels guilty about the harm some of my ancestors have caused some of my other ancestors :(

LOL
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
TheAtheistAllegiance
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3/13/2011 7:08:40 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/13/2011 1:59:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 3/13/2011 1:45:18 PM, Danielle wrote:
Notice how the OP made absolutely no indication that the recession only impacted whites or was somehow a white ploy to oppress blacks, yet the two people who responded did so sarcastically taking a completely defensive approach in assuming the OP is crying racism. Guilty conscience much?

Djsherin is black...

He's an Uncle Ruckus and hates himself. =P
feverish
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3/14/2011 8:25:45 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/13/2011 1:02:26 PM, artwomyn wrote:
If you're an African American, how has this recession treated you financially? Do you think that the recession, has destroyed your chances for upward mobility?

You're kind of asking on the wrong site, there are very few African Americans amongst active users here. Koopin is mixed race, Non Entity is a Nigerian living in Canada, apart from that I can only think of PCP and that Kelly guy.
Danielle
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3/14/2011 10:05:45 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/13/2011 1:59:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
Djsherin is black...

Yeah, and the same concept still applies. The second anyone asks a question about race, it's assumed that racism is implied. White people and black people make this assumption. So yeah he's black. Great. That negates nothing of what I said.
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djsherin
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3/14/2011 11:19:19 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/13/2011 7:08:40 PM, TheAtheistAllegiance wrote:
At 3/13/2011 1:59:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 3/13/2011 1:45:18 PM, Danielle wrote:
Notice how the OP made absolutely no indication that the recession only impacted whites or was somehow a white ploy to oppress blacks, yet the two people who responded did so sarcastically taking a completely defensive approach in assuming the OP is crying racism. Guilty conscience much?

Djsherin is black...

He's an Uncle Ruckus and hates himself. =P

It's the truth :P
Zetsubou
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3/14/2011 12:48:44 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/14/2011 11:19:19 AM, djsherin wrote:
At 3/13/2011 7:08:40 PM, TheAtheistAllegiance wrote:
At 3/13/2011 1:59:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
Djsherin is black...

He's an Uncle Ruckus and hates himself. =P

It's the truth :P
I hate people like you.
'sup DDO -- july 2013
innomen
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3/14/2011 1:05:37 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/14/2011 12:48:44 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 3/14/2011 11:19:19 AM, djsherin wrote:
At 3/13/2011 7:08:40 PM, TheAtheistAllegiance wrote:
At 3/13/2011 1:59:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
Djsherin is black...

He's an Uncle Ruckus and hates himself. =P

It's the truth :P
I hate people like you.

Odd statement, why? SO you're an African Brit (do they even have silly terms like that there?), do you have an opinion?
Zetsubou
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3/14/2011 1:24:59 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/14/2011 1:05:37 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/14/2011 12:48:44 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 3/14/2011 11:19:19 AM, djsherin wrote:
At 3/13/2011 7:08:40 PM, TheAtheistAllegiance wrote:
At 3/13/2011 1:59:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
Djsherin is black...

He's an Uncle Ruckus and hates himself. =P

It's the truth :P
I hate people like you.

Odd statement, why? SO you're an African Brit (do they even have silly terms like that there?), do you have an opinion?
what cha mean?

He said he hates himself because of his race, he's a idiot. nuff said, no?

N.B I don't really consider myself a brit, black-brit or africian-brit, yet I can understand the label. I have little love pan-african nationism, my ethnic group or nation.
'sup DDO -- july 2013
Zetsubou
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3/14/2011 1:25:59 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/14/2011 1:24:59 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 3/14/2011 1:05:37 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/14/2011 12:48:44 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 3/14/2011 11:19:19 AM, djsherin wrote:
At 3/13/2011 7:08:40 PM, TheAtheistAllegiance wrote:
At 3/13/2011 1:59:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
Djsherin is black...

He's an Uncle Ruckus and hates himself. =P

It's the truth :P
I hate people like you.

Odd statement, why? SO you're an African Brit (do they even have silly terms like that there?), do you have an opinion?
what cha mean?

He said he hates himself because of his race, he's a idiot. nuff said, no?

N.B I don't really consider myself a brit, black-brit or africian-brit, yet I can understand the label. I have little love pan-african nationism, my ethnic group or nation.
And even if he is joking about, it's a stupid joke nevertheless.
'sup DDO -- july 2013
askbob
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3/14/2011 2:09:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/14/2011 1:25:59 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 3/14/2011 1:24:59 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 3/14/2011 1:05:37 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/14/2011 12:48:44 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 3/14/2011 11:19:19 AM, djsherin wrote:
At 3/13/2011 7:08:40 PM, TheAtheistAllegiance wrote:
At 3/13/2011 1:59:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
Djsherin is black...

He's an Uncle Ruckus and hates himself. =P

It's the truth :P
I hate people like you.

Odd statement, why? SO you're an African Brit (do they even have silly terms like that there?), do you have an opinion?
what cha mean?

He said he hates himself because of his race, he's a idiot. nuff said, no?

N.B I don't really consider myself a brit, black-brit or africian-brit, yet I can understand the label. I have little love pan-african nationism, my ethnic group or nation.
And even if he is joking about, it's a stupid joke nevertheless.

read the whole thread zets and you'll understand the humor.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
innomen
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3/14/2011 2:25:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/14/2011 1:24:59 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 3/14/2011 1:05:37 PM, innomen wrote:
At 3/14/2011 12:48:44 PM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 3/14/2011 11:19:19 AM, djsherin wrote:
At 3/13/2011 7:08:40 PM, TheAtheistAllegiance wrote:
At 3/13/2011 1:59:45 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
Djsherin is black...

He's an Uncle Ruckus and hates himself. =P

It's the truth :P
I hate people like you.

Odd statement, why? SO you're an African Brit (do they even have silly terms like that there?), do you have an opinion?
what cha mean?

He said he hates himself because of his race, he's a idiot. nuff said, no?

N.B I don't really consider myself a brit, black-brit or africian-brit, yet I can understand the label. I have little love pan-african nationism, my ethnic group or nation.

Yeah, like askbob said, you would probably agree with him if you read the whole thing. I kind of know your thoughts on this, that's why i said "odd statement".
Greyparrot
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3/14/2011 3:20:14 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Affirmative action jobs are often the first to go when the economy goes south, along with cushy white union jobs. Maybe there is something to learn from that?