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9/15/2011 10:46:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
DNA tests reveal 'Hitler was descended from the Jews and Africans he hated'

Adolf Hitler is likely to have been descended from both Jews and Africans, according to DNA tests.
Samples taken from relatives of the Nazi leader show that he is biologically linked to the 'sub-human' races he sought to exterminate.
Journalist Jean-Paul Mulders and historian Marc Vermeeren used DNA to track down 39 of the Fuhrer's relatives earlier this year.
They included an Austrian farmer revealed only as a cousin called Norbert H.
A Belgian news magazine has reported that samples of saliva taken from these people strongly suggest Hitler had antecedents he certainly would not have cared for.
A chromosome called Haplopgroup E1b1b (Y-DNA) in their samples is rare in Germany and indeed Western Europe.

'It is most commonly found in the Berbers of Morocco, in Algeria, Libya and Tunisia as well as among Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews,' Mr Vermeeren said.
'One can from this postulate that Hitler was related to people whom he despised,' adds Mr Mulders in the magazine, Knack.
Haplogroup E1b1b1, which accounts for approximately 18 to 20 per cent of Ashkenazi and 8.6 per cent to 30 per cent of Sephardic Y-chromosomes, appears to be one of the major founding lineages of the Jewish population.
'This is a surprising result,' said Ronny Decorte, a genetic specialist who agreed that Hitler probably did have some roots in North Africa.

'It is difficult to predict, what happens with this information, both to opponents and supporters of Hitler,' he added.
The magazine says the DNA was tested under stringent laboratory conditions to obtain the results.
It is not the first time that historians have suggested Hitler had Jewish ancestry.
His father, Alois, is thought to have been the illegitimate offspring of a maid called Maria Schickelgruber and a 19-year-old Jewish man called Frankenberger.
This would have made the man who inspired the Holocaust one-quarter Jewish.

Reports have suggested that Hitler's nephew, Patrick, tried to blackmail his uncle over the issue of Alois Hitler's parentage. Hitler asked his lawyer, Hans Frank, to investigate the claims and he announced just before the outbreak of the Second World War that they were 'without any foundation'.
'Hitler would not have been pleased about this,' added Mr Decorte, of the Catholic University of Leuven.
'The affair is fascinating if one compares it with the conception of the world of the Nazis, in which race and blood was central.
'Hitler's concern over his descent was not unjustified. He was apparently not "pure" or "Ayran".'
DNA was also taken from American Alexander Stuart-Houston, 61, a grand-nephew of Hitler.
He was trailed for seven days before he dropped a used serviette which Mulders said led him to the cousin in Austria - and the link with Hitler's sworn enemies.

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9/16/2011 7:58:41 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
A piece of Joseph_Mengele's heart has died...
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9/16/2011 10:06:03 AM
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Indeed. This was actually a direct attack on him.
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9/16/2011 10:06:19 AM
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At 9/16/2011 10:06:03 AM, kohai wrote:
Indeed. This was actually a direct attack on him.

and all white-supremacists/racists/hitler supporters
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9/16/2011 10:07:40 AM
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Devils Advocate here, that rare chromozone could have been derived from an 'Arayan' source no?

But in any case we have evidence that Hitler had Jewish grandparents.
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9/16/2011 11:40:40 AM
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At 9/16/2011 10:07:40 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
Devils Advocate here, that rare chromozone could have been derived from an 'Arayan' source no?

But in any case we have evidence that Hitler had Jewish grandparents.

LOL! That is scientifically impossible!!
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9/16/2011 12:32:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/16/2011 11:40:40 AM, kohai wrote:
At 9/16/2011 10:07:40 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
Devils Advocate here, that rare chromozone could have been derived from an 'Arayan' source no?

But in any case we have evidence that Hitler had Jewish grandparents.

LOL! That is scientifically impossible!!

Your article said it was rare, not impossible.
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9/16/2011 12:33:33 PM
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At 9/16/2011 12:32:39 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/16/2011 11:40:40 AM, kohai wrote:
At 9/16/2011 10:07:40 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
Devils Advocate here, that rare chromozone could have been derived from an 'Arayan' source no?

But in any case we have evidence that Hitler had Jewish grandparents.

LOL! That is scientifically impossible!!

Your article said it was rare, not impossible.

"A chromosome called Haplopgroup E1b1b (Y-DNA) in their samples is rare in Germany and indeed Western Europe."

From the OP.
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9/19/2011 12:55:19 PM
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First, your link doesn't work so that alone doesn't give any of your information a credible source.

Second, Hitler wasn't Jewish. Even if he supposedly had one of his grandparents that was Jewish, it doesn't neccesarily mean that he was Jewish which we wasn't.

Third, Hitler was Aryan and/or white. Did he appear to be black? Or to take it down to further analysis, did Hitler appear to have any resemblence of interracial mixing within him? I would say not.
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9/19/2011 1:19:59 PM
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At 9/19/2011 12:55:19 PM, Joseph_Mengele wrote:
First, your link doesn't work so that alone doesn't give any of your information a credible source.

Second, Hitler wasn't Jewish. Even if he supposedly had one of his grandparents that was Jewish, it doesn't neccesarily mean that he was Jewish which we wasn't.

Third, Hitler was Aryan and/or white. Did he appear to be black? Or to take it down to further analysis, did Hitler appear to have any resemblence of interracial mixing within him? I would say not.

Obama also appears to be Black but in actuality.....
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9/19/2011 3:48:33 PM
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At 9/19/2011 12:55:19 PM, Joseph_Mengele wrote:
First, your link doesn't work so that alone doesn't give any of your information a credible source.

Second, Hitler wasn't Jewish. Even if he supposedly had one of his grandparents that was Jewish, it doesn't neccesarily mean that he was Jewish which we wasn't.

Third, Hitler was Aryan and/or white. Did he appear to be black? Or to take it down to further analysis, did Hitler appear to have any resemblence of interracial mixing within him? I would say not.

http://www.stormfront.org...

A single drop of blood it all it takes. You should know this. Common belief among most WN and WS is that a single drop of non-white blood makes the person non-white (or non-aryan). It doesn't matter if they "look" it.
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9/19/2011 5:16:02 PM
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At 9/19/2011 3:48:33 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
http://www.stormfront.org...

A single drop of blood it all it takes.

I lol'd at the "pink nipple test"
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9/19/2011 5:23:45 PM
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At 9/19/2011 5:16:02 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 9/19/2011 3:48:33 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
http://www.stormfront.org...

A single drop of blood it all it takes.

I lol'd at the "pink nipple test"

I like to go on to Stormfront, pretend to be a WS, and demand that all women engage in the pink nipple test.
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9/19/2011 5:47:30 PM
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At 9/19/2011 5:16:02 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
At 9/19/2011 3:48:33 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
http://www.stormfront.org...

A single drop of blood it all it takes.

I lol'd at the "pink nipple test"

Well, when you come to think of it, it actually makes sense.
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9/19/2011 8:30:59 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 9/19/2011 3:48:33 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 9/19/2011 12:55:19 PM, Joseph_Mengele wrote:
First, your link doesn't work so that alone doesn't give any of your information a credible source.

Second, Hitler wasn't Jewish. Even if he supposedly had one of his grandparents that was Jewish, it doesn't neccesarily mean that he was Jewish which we wasn't.

Third, Hitler was Aryan and/or white. Did he appear to be black? Or to take it down to further analysis, did Hitler appear to have any resemblence of interracial mixing within him? I would say not.

http://www.stormfront.org...

A single drop of blood it all it takes. You should know this. Common belief among most WN and WS is that a single drop of non-white blood makes the person non-white (or non-aryan). It doesn't matter if they "look" it.

So much white powder
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9/19/2011 8:38:54 PM
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Storm front is ridiculous.

Three quotes: "Don't destroy in one night what it took your ancestors hundreds of generations to preserve."

"You should be with someone who makes you happy. If that person is not 100% white, then maybe ask yourself why that matters to you in the first place."

"Well I myself am not a one-dropper,but I remember before I married my ex-wife I looked at pictures of her various ancestors dating all the way back to the horse and buggy days,just to be on the safe side, before I married her.I wouldn't consider 1/8th mexican as marraige material but before I tossed her out on her *** I'd check to make sure the 1/8th wasn't White Spanish first."
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9/19/2011 8:44:46 PM
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At 9/19/2011 8:38:54 PM, seraine wrote:
Storm front is ridiculous.

Three quotes: "Don't destroy in one night what it took your ancestors hundreds of generations to preserve."

"You should be with someone who makes you happy. If that person is not 100% white, then maybe ask yourself why that matters to you in the first place."

"Well I myself am not a one-dropper,but I remember before I married my ex-wife I looked at pictures of her various ancestors dating all the way back to the horse and buggy days,just to be on the safe side, before I married her.I wouldn't consider 1/8th mexican as marraige material but before I tossed her out on her *** I'd check to make sure the 1/8th wasn't White Spanish first."

I once saw a stormfront post arguing that the Pharaohs who built the great pyramids were European.
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2/24/2013 10:16:17 PM
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At 9/16/2011 7:58:41 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
A piece of Joseph_Mengele's heart has died...

Who was Joseph_Mengele? I know he was trolling, but is he still around in another account?
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2/25/2013 5:29:17 AM
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At 2/24/2013 10:16:17 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
At 9/16/2011 7:58:41 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
A piece of Joseph_Mengele's heart has died...

Who was Joseph_Mengele? I know he was trolling, but is he still around in another account?

He's probably Jimtimmy or Darkkermit.
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2/25/2013 7:43:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/25/2013 5:29:17 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/24/2013 10:16:17 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
At 9/16/2011 7:58:41 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
A piece of Joseph_Mengele's heart has died...

Who was Joseph_Mengele? I know he was trolling, but is he still around in another account?

He's probably Jimtimmy or Darkkermit.

No, its royal. She has shown her anti-semetic views. Plus she believes that blacks are less intelligent then whites:

http://www.debate.org...

http://www.debate.org...

Oh, but of course your smears were justifiable because I was somehow attacking you. Even though I literally never responded to any of your posts or topics in months, and I did that purposely because we agreed to generally ignore one another, which would include talking about one another negatively in public, but apparently you have problems with follow basic instructions.

But then I forgot that cunts like yourself will play victimhood.

I'm jewish, you really think I'd make a nazi account?
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2/25/2013 9:38:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/25/2013 7:43:25 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 2/25/2013 5:29:17 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/24/2013 10:16:17 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
At 9/16/2011 7:58:41 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
A piece of Joseph_Mengele's heart has died...

Who was Joseph_Mengele? I know he was trolling, but is he still around in another account?

He's probably Jimtimmy or Darkkermit.

No, its royal. She has shown her anti-semetic views. Plus she believes that blacks are less intelligent then whites:


http://www.debate.org...

LOL, MouthWash thinks anybody who criticizes Israel for anything is anti-Semitic. What a horrible thread to quote.
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You're taking this out of the context. I was responding to the Fool's misogynist statements with arguments that would make him upset.

Oh, but of course your smears were justifiable because I was somehow attacking you.
It actually wasn't a smear, unless you think having "race realist" views is a bad thing. I never passed any value judgments on your views. I just noted that you had them. You interpreted this as a smear. I wonder why . . . .
Even though I literally never responded to any of your posts or topics in months, and I did that purposely because we agreed to generally ignore one another, which would include talking about one another negatively in public, but apparently you have problems with follow basic instructions.

Again, this wasn't negative.
But then I forgot that cunts like yourself will play victimhood.

Now you're attacking me, and you're being sexist.
I'm jewish, you really think I'd make a nazi account?

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2/25/2013 9:56:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/25/2013 9:38:35 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/25/2013 7:43:25 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 2/25/2013 5:29:17 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/24/2013 10:16:17 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
At 9/16/2011 7:58:41 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
A piece of Joseph_Mengele's heart has died...

Who was Joseph_Mengele? I know he was trolling, but is he still around in another account?

He's probably Jimtimmy or Darkkermit.

No, its royal. She has shown her anti-semetic views. Plus she believes that blacks are less intelligent then whites:


http://www.debate.org...

LOL, MouthWash thinks anybody who criticizes Israel for anything is anti-Semitic. What a horrible thread to quote.

And then you start using anti-semetic websites to argue. Being anti-Israel isn't antisemetic, but you took it to a whole new level.

http://www.debate.org...

You're taking this out of the context. I was responding to the Fool's misogynist statements with arguments that would make him upset.

LOL, out of context. That's hilarious. Of course, royal can do no harm. Everything she says is out of context. Everything she says about you is totally in-context.


Oh, but of course your smears were justifiable because I was somehow attacking you.
It actually wasn't a smear, unless you think having "race realist" views is a bad thing. I never passed any value judgments on your views. I just noted that

Are you seriously suggesting that having an account called Joseph_Mengle isn't a smear. The nazi Joseph Mengle is a total monster and Joseph_Mengle was incredibly hateful and anti-semetic. Nobody liked Joseph_Mengle.

Yea, calling you a cunt isn't a smear either. What's so offensive about a vagina.

you had them. You interpreted this as a smear. I wonder why . . . .

Even though I literally never responded to any of your posts or topics in months, and I did that purposely because we agreed to generally ignore one another, which would include talking about one another negatively in public, but apparently you have problems with follow basic instructions.

Again, this wasn't negative.

Bullsh1t!

But then I forgot that cunts like yourself will play victimhood.

Now you're attacking me, and you're being sexist.

Well of course I am, because you attacked me first. But again you play victimhood, like your playing dumb as if you didn't do anything.

I'm jewish, you really think I'd make a nazi account?

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu...

Yes, there were nazis with jewish descent. However, how likely do you think that is to occur? I could say you are Joseph_Mengle as well.

Royalpaladin, debate me:
"Resolved it is reasonable to assume that darkkermit is Joseph_Mengle"
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2/25/2013 10:52:50 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/25/2013 9:38:49 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Hitler was Jewish, by the way, and was also a Nazi.

LOL. sig'd
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2/25/2013 11:35:24 PM
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At 2/25/2013 9:38:49 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Hitler was Jewish, by the way, and was also a Nazi.

Im pretty sure theres a bit of a difference between having ancestors who were Jewish and actually being a practicing jew.....
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2/26/2013 5:54:23 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/25/2013 9:56:22 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 2/25/2013 9:38:35 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/25/2013 7:43:25 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 2/25/2013 5:29:17 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/24/2013 10:16:17 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
At 9/16/2011 7:58:41 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
A piece of Joseph_Mengele's heart has died...

Who was Joseph_Mengele? I know he was trolling, but is he still around in another account?

He's probably Jimtimmy or Darkkermit.

No, its royal. She has shown her anti-semetic views. Plus she believes that blacks are less intelligent then whites:


http://www.debate.org...

LOL, MouthWash thinks anybody who criticizes Israel for anything is anti-Semitic. What a horrible thread to quote.

And then you start using anti-semetic websites to argue. Being anti-Israel isn't antisemetic, but you took it to a whole new level.

That doesn't make me anti-Semitic. Just because I used sources doesn't mean that I agree with their ideology or worldview. Also, you only think that the sites were "anti-Semitic" because they highlighted the racism in the Torah, and Jat, who grew up in a conservative Jewish Yeshiva, confirmed that the Torah is racist. I cannot confirm this because I cannot read Hebrew, so I can only believe what the evidence tells me.
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You're taking this out of the context. I was responding to the Fool's misogynist statements with arguments that would make him upset.

LOL, out of context. That's hilarious. Of course, royal can do no harm. Everything she says is out of context. Everything she says about you is totally in-context.

Whining doesn't make you right. It's out of context. Look at what the Fool was saying to me.

Oh, but of course your smears were justifiable because I was somehow attacking you.
It actually wasn't a smear, unless you think having "race realist" views is a bad thing. I never passed any value judgments on your views. I just noted that

Are you seriously suggesting that having an account called Joseph_Mengle isn't a smear.
Yes
The nazi Joseph Mengle is a total monster and Joseph_Mengle was incredibly hateful and anti-semetic. Nobody liked Joseph_Mengle.

I didn't know that. I wasn't here when he was online. I was discussing his "race realist" views, and not his personality.
Yea, calling you a cunt isn't a smear either. What's so offensive about a vagina.

You seem to think that it's offensive (envy?) and are using the word in an offensive way.
you had them. You interpreted this as a smear. I wonder why . . . .


Even though I literally never responded to any of your posts or topics in months, and I did that purposely because we agreed to generally ignore one another, which would include talking about one another negatively in public, but apparently you have problems with follow basic instructions.

Again, this wasn't negative.

Bullsh1t!

It wasn't. It was highlighting your racism, which you are open about. How am I smearing you if you are open about your racism and I say you are racist?
But then I forgot that cunts like yourself will play victimhood.

Now you're attacking me, and you're being sexist.

Well of course I am, because you attacked me first.
Nope, I called you racist, and you think racism is good and normal, so I didn't attack you. I just stated your views.
But again you play victimhood, like your playing dumb as if you didn't do anything.

I didn't do anything
I'm jewish, you really think I'd make a nazi account?

http://www.kansaspress.ku.edu...

Yes, there were nazis with jewish descent. However, how likely do you think that is to occur?
I offered proof that they exist. You were pretending that they didn't exist, and that was false.
I could say you are Joseph_Mengle as well.

Royalpaladin, debate me:
"Resolved it is reasonable to assume that darkkermit is Joseph_Mengle"

I don't know anything about the account, so no. The point of my claim was to highlight your racism, which you are open about, and not to actually say that you had that account.
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2/26/2013 11:57:51 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/25/2013 11:35:24 PM, imabench wrote:
At 2/25/2013 9:38:49 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Hitler was Jewish, by the way, and was also a Nazi.

Im pretty sure theres a bit of a difference between having ancestors who were Jewish and actually being a practicing jew.....

In his extermination of Jews, Hitler did not differentiate between practicing & non-practicing. He was after not only the Jewish religion, but after the Jewish race. The rule was that they go back 2 generations (maybe it was more, but I know at least 2). If a person had 1 Jewish grandparent, even if he &/ his parents converted to christianity/ became atheists, they would be killed.
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2/26/2013 12:05:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/25/2013 9:38:35 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/25/2013 7:43:25 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 2/25/2013 5:29:17 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/24/2013 10:16:17 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
At 9/16/2011 7:58:41 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
A piece of Joseph_Mengele's heart has died...

Who was Joseph_Mengele? I know he was trolling, but is he still around in another account?

He's probably Jimtimmy or Darkkermit.

No, its royal. She has shown her anti-semetic views. Plus she believes that blacks are less intelligent then whites:


http://www.debate.org...

LOL, MouthWash thinks anybody who criticizes Israel for anything is anti-Semitic. What a horrible thread to quote.

I'm pretty sure I understand the difference between criticism of the Israeli government and Jew hatred.

From Alan Dershowitz: The differences between legitimate criticism of Israel and anti-Semitism

A CHECKLIST OF FACTORS THAT TEND TO INDICATE ANTI-SEMITISM

1. Employing stereotypes against Israel that have traditionally been directed against "the Jews." For example, portraying Israel as devouring the blood of children or characterizing Israeli leaders with long hook noses or rapacious looks.

2. Comparing Israel to the Nazis or its leaders to Hitler, the German army, or the Gestapo.

3. Characterizing Israel as "the worst," when it is clear that this is not an accurate comparative assessment.

4. Invoking anti-Jewish religious symbols or caricaturing Jewish religious symbols.

5. Singling out only Israel for sanctions for policies that are widespread among other nations, or demanding that Jews be better or more moral than others because of their history as victims.

6. Discriminating against individuals only because they are Jewish Israelis, without regard to their individual views or actions. <-- royal is guilty of this

7. Emphasizing and stereotyping certain characteristics among supporters of Israel that have traditionally been used in anti-Semitic attacks, for example, "pushy" American Jews, Jews "who control the media," and Jews "who control financial markets."

8. Blaming all Jews or "the Jews" for Israel"s policies or imperfections.

9. Physically or verbally attacking Jewish institutions, such as synagogues or cemeteries, as a means of protesting against Israel.

10. Stereotyping all Jews as fitting into a particular political configuration (such as "neo-conservatives," Zionists, or supporters of Sharon). <-- royal is guilty of this

11. Accusing Jews and only Jews of having dual loyalty.

12. Blaming Israel for the problems of the world and exaggerating the influence of the Jewish state on world affairs.

13. Denying, minimizing, or trivializing the Holocaust as part of a campaign against Israel.

14. Discriminating against only Israel in its qualification for certain positions or statuses, such as on the Security Council, the International Court of Justice, and the International Red Cross.

15. Blaming the Jews or Israel, rather than the anti-Semites, for anti-Semitism or for increases in anti-Jewish attitudes.

16. Taking extreme pleasure from Israeli failures, imperfections, or troubles. <-- royal is guilty of this

17. Falsely claiming that all legitimate criticism of Israeli policies is immediately and widely condemned by Jewish leaders as anti-Semitic, despite any evidence to support this accusation. <-- royal is guilty of this

18. Denying that even core anti-Semitism"racial stereotypes, Nazi comparisons, desecration of synagogues, Holocaust denial"qualifies as anti-Semitic. <-- royal is guilty of this

19. Seeking to delegitimate Israel precisely as it moves toward peace. <-- royal is guilty of this

20. Circulating wild charges against Israel and Jews, such as that they were responsible for the September 11 attacks, the anthrax attacks, and the 2005 tsunami.

A CHECKLIST OF FACTORS THAT TEND TO INDICATE LEGITIMATE CRITICISM OF ISRAEL

1. The criticism is directed at specific policies of Israel, rather than at the very legitimacy of the state. <-- royal does NOT do this

2. The degree and level of criticism vary with changes in Israel"s policies. <-- royal does NOT do this

3. The criticism is comparative and contextual. <-- royal does NOT do this

4. The criticism is political, military, economic, and so forth, rather than ethnic or religious. <-- royal does NOT do this

5. The criticism is similar to criticism being raised by mainstream Israeli dissidents. <-- royal does NOT do this

6. The criticism is leveled by people who have a history of leveling comparable criticisms at other nations with comparable or worse records. <-- royal does NOT do this (Soviet union *cough*)

7. The criticism is designed to bring about positive changes in Israeli policies. <-- royal does NOT do this

8. The criticism is part of a more general and comparative criticism of all other nations. <-- royal does NOT do this

9. The criticism is based on objective facts rather than name calling or polemics. <-- royal does NOT do this

10. The critic subjects his favorite nation to comparable criticism for comparable faults. <-- royal does NOT do this
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2/26/2013 12:12:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/26/2013 5:54:23 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/25/2013 9:56:22 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 2/25/2013 9:38:35 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/25/2013 7:43:25 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 2/25/2013 5:29:17 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 2/24/2013 10:16:17 PM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
At 9/16/2011 7:58:41 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
A piece of Joseph_Mengele's heart has died...

Who was Joseph_Mengele? I know he was trolling, but is he still around in another account?

He's probably Jimtimmy or Darkkermit.

No, its royal. She has shown her anti-semetic views. Plus she believes that blacks are less intelligent then whites:


http://www.debate.org...

LOL, MouthWash thinks anybody who criticizes Israel for anything is anti-Semitic. What a horrible thread to quote.

And then you start using anti-semetic websites to argue. Being anti-Israel isn't antisemetic, but you took it to a whole new level.

That doesn't make me anti-Semitic. Just because I used sources doesn't mean that I agree with their ideology or worldview. Also, you only think that the sites were "anti-Semitic" because they highlighted the racism in the Torah, and Jat, who grew up in a conservative Jewish Yeshiva, confirmed that the Torah is racist. I cannot confirm this because I cannot read Hebrew, so I can only believe what the evidence tells me.

I gave him line-by-line refutation and he ignored me. He couldn't even explain why the Babylonian Talmud was racist despite the time period it was written in was in period of peace and cooperation between the Sassanid Empire and the Jewish population in Mesopotamia, and he lied about the Talmud being more important than the Torah. It's like the former Muslims who spout lies about the Muslim Golden Age and Islam in general, and ignore that history is entirely incongruent with Islam's supposed violent views.
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2/26/2013 12:19:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 2/25/2013 9:38:49 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Hitler was Jewish, by the way, and was also a Nazi.

There was a rumor during his life that Hitler was one quarter Jewish on his illegitimate father's side. Hitler himself ordered genealogists to investigate the rumour and concluded that he was not of Jewish ancestry and Johann Georg Hiedler was his paternal grandfather. Modern historians have also came to the conclusion that as no Frankenburger has ever been registered to have existed and given that all Jews had been expelled from Styria (including Graz) until the 1860s, several decades after his father Alois's birth that Hitler's paternal grandfather was not a Jew.

And, yes, linking to anti-Semitic website makes you an anti-Semite for the same reason that linking to YEC websites in order to back up your claims probably means you aren't in touch with biology.
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