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Immanuel Kant

wjmelements
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6/2/2009 7:04:46 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
What is y'all's opinion on Kant?
http://en.wikipedia.org...

Should I read 1 of his works, which is the most important for me to read?
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Clockwork
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6/2/2009 7:40:52 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Fundamental Principles on the Metaphysics of Morals is the one behind the ideas oh his you'll hear most often...

Being the hardcore debater that my position as debate captain requires, I've read quite a bit of philosophy and can testify that my eyes practically bled reading Kant, it was so boring and frustratingly useless. The Categorical Imperative is the only idea of his I have ever heard used in an LD round, despite the other interesting bits of reasoning within FPMM.

The basis behind the majority of Kantian ethics can be summed up in two main statements.

1. Humans should never be used as a means to an ends but only as an end unto themselves.

2. Actions are only valid if they could logically be part of a hypothetical universal legislature.

Save yourself some time and read something more interesting, maybe Nietzsche or someone with some more exotic or substantial reasoning.
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6/2/2009 8:32:24 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Western civilization, little boys, mind destroyed, etc, you know the drill.
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6/2/2009 8:57:41 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Hmm, seems as if my post didn't show up :O.

I agree, Kant is probably one of the most boring philosophers to read - what a bland prose! But if you like or are interested in philosophy, then you should know that his influence is enormous.
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6/3/2009 9:12:52 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
His writing is very very boring, and very wordy. He takes a really long time to say anything.
But his ideas are fascinating. So read a summary.
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6/4/2009 8:38:47 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
Will I get the same experience by reading a summary?

I'm reading Marx. I've listened to too many summaries. I hope to actually get what is being spoken of rather than just the jist.
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6/7/2009 6:23:29 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 6/4/2009 8:39:47 AM, wjmelements wrote:
What of the Critique of Pure Reason?

Interesting certainly. But not about ethics if that is what you are looking for.
Danielle
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6/10/2009 8:05:28 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 6/2/2009 7:40:52 PM, Clockwork wrote:
Fundamental Principles on the Metaphysics of Morals is the one behind the ideas oh his you'll hear most often...

Being the hardcore debater that my position as debate captain requires, I've read quite a bit of philosophy and can testify that my eyes practically bled reading Kant, it was so boring and frustratingly useless. The Categorical Imperative is the only idea of his I have ever heard used in an LD round, despite the other interesting bits of reasoning within FPMM.

The basis behind the majority of Kantian ethics can be summed up in two main statements.

1. Humans should never be used as a means to an ends but only as an end unto themselves.

2. Actions are only valid if they could logically be part of a hypothetical universal legislature.

Save yourself some time and read something more interesting, maybe Nietzsche or someone with some more exotic or substantial reasoning.

EXACTLY.
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wjmelements
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6/15/2009 12:09:30 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 6/11/2009 4:39:28 PM, Rob1Billion wrote:
I would read his works myself but I kant.

That was punny.
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wjmelements
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6/15/2009 12:10:29 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 6/7/2009 6:23:29 PM, LB628 wrote:
At 6/4/2009 8:39:47 AM, wjmelements wrote:
What of the Critique of Pure Reason?

Interesting certainly. But not about ethics if that is what you are looking for.

I'm going for philosophy and logic more than ethics, though you may consider the former to be ethics.
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6/15/2009 11:09:07 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
I'm going for philosophy and logic more than ethics, though you may consider the former to be ethics.

Going for philosophy more than ethics? Ethics is a part of philosophy, so...