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devinni01841
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3/27/2012 9:54:02 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
to talk about people and judge them for their decisions?

I'm not gonna lie, I'm guilty of it too, but there are these two girls that sit across from me in Econ calss and they gossip about people like they never do anything worth judging people for.

So why is it acceptable?
Is there some scientific reasoning for it?
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3/27/2012 10:29:38 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Well, I think that judging people for their decisions is correct, to an extent.

The problem arises is when you make assumptions without knowing everything.
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3/27/2012 11:38:15 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/27/2012 9:54:02 AM, devinni01841 wrote:
to talk about people and judge them for their decisions?

I'm not gonna lie, I'm guilty of it too, but there are these two girls that sit across from me in Econ calss and they gossip about people like they never do anything worth judging people for.

So why is it acceptable?
Is there some scientific reasoning for it?:

Two reasons, I would wager.

1. Humans are social creatures
2. Putting others down provides them a feeling of superiority over their peers.
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3/27/2012 12:31:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
AHHHH the high school girls. They can be sooo brutal, can't they? I did some mean things back then and I was one of the mellow ones!

You are right though in saying that it is more accepted than it should be. It's an inherent human trait and humans are largely flawed people. This is one of the flaws that really irritates me about people, along with close-mindedness and egocentricity.

In a general sense, it will get better once you are out of high school. Maturity sinks in and people realize that their sh!t might stink a little too so who are they to down talk another. Of course, there will always be people that utilize this attribute to the max, and I think really it just is an indicator of their own limited self-worth. You treat others how you feel about yourself. Outward expression is a reflection of inner expression.
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3/27/2012 5:23:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/27/2012 9:54:02 AM, devinni01841 wrote:
to talk about people and judge them for their decisions?

I'm not gonna lie, I'm guilty of it too, but there are these two girls that sit across from me in Econ calss and they gossip about people like they never do anything worth judging people for.

So why is it acceptable?
Is there some scientific reasoning for it?
You should see Balkan - the women there gossip about everything. Two summers ago I was in Bosnia in my grandmother's home, and her sister and niece were there. The niece wearing some sort of scarf and other interesting combinations of clothes. I never noticed anything weird about her clothing, but once they went back home, my grandmother instantly started commenting on every single part of her niece's clothes that day. "Oh my God, did you see the scarf? In summer? And the purple color with all black clothes? And what was with that thing on the hair? God forbid..."
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3/28/2012 7:41:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/27/2012 11:57:21 AM, Thaddeus wrote:
I'm Batman. I judge so that I can save people from villainy.

lol Thaddeus
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3/29/2012 9:23:55 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
1) Judging others provides information
2) Damaging one's social standings increases you're social standings in relative terms. It's a safe method of doing it too.

That's actually why women are more likely to do it then men. Women tend to be less risk aversion, so find less riskier ways to harm others, while men are more risk takers so they are more likely to say stuff straight to you're face (although men do talk behind others backs quite a bit)
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3/29/2012 4:06:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/29/2012 9:23:55 AM, darkkermit wrote:
1) Judging others provides information
2) Damaging one's social standings increases you're social standings in relative terms. It's a safe method of doing it too.

That's actually why women are more likely to do it then men. Women tend to be less risk aversion, so find less riskier ways to harm others, while men are more risk takers so they are more likely to say stuff straight to you're face (although men do talk behind others backs quite a bit)

Makes sense... still makes me grumpy to listen to it though
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3/29/2012 4:15:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/29/2012 4:06:02 PM, devinni01841 wrote:
At 3/29/2012 9:23:55 AM, darkkermit wrote:
1) Judging others provides information
2) Damaging one's social standings increases you're social standings in relative terms. It's a safe method of doing it too.

That's actually why women are more likely to do it then men. Women tend to be less risk aversion, so find less riskier ways to harm others, while men are more risk takers so they are more likely to say stuff straight to you're face (although men do talk behind others backs quite a bit)

Makes sense... still makes me grumpy to listen to it though

Its just something you have the accept in human nature.

I've found the more I accept human nature, the closer and closer I get to a sociopath.
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6/24/2012 2:23:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/27/2012 10:29:38 AM, OberHerr wrote:
Well, I think that judging people for their decisions is correct, to an extent.

The problem arises is when you make assumptions without knowing everything.
just human nature.
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6/24/2012 5:17:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/27/2012 10:29:38 AM, OberHerr wrote:
Well, I think that judging people for their decisions is correct, to an extent.

The problem arises is when you make assumptions without knowing everything.

I don't think it's ever "correct." I think arbitration may judge people in the sense of the objective idea: did you commit x crime?

However, as others have said, judging others morally is almost always, and I'd go so far as to say, ALWAYS, used as a means to validate ourselves--in way that is very hypocritical.
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6/24/2012 5:29:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/27/2012 11:52:36 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
Humans find purpose in living by experiencing conflict.

Judging people helps fuel conflicts.

If you don't agree with this, just think about the crazy high suicide rates of war veterans that saw a huge drop in conflict experiences in their lives when they came home.
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6/24/2012 5:49:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
You know what I find great?
The best of villains are always the least judgmental of people.
We know we're all sick. So we accept you as you are.
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6/24/2012 6:18:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 3/27/2012 11:38:15 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 3/27/2012 9:54:02 AM, devinni01841 wrote:
to talk about people and judge them for their decisions?

I'm not gonna lie, I'm guilty of it too, but there are these two girls that sit across from me in Econ calss and they gossip about people like they never do anything worth judging people for.

So why is it acceptable?
Is there some scientific reasoning for it?:

Two reasons, I would wager.

1. Humans are social creatures
2. Putting others down provides them a feeling of superiority over their peers.

Mammal societies are very complex. There is cooperation, but not the near complete elimination of internal competition as is seen in insect societies. Subgroups form within societies to compete with other individuals for subgroups. One theory is that language and intelligence began to develop to handle the complexity and the need to negotiate obligations to subgroups. But language and intelligence enable deception, thus adding more complexity, thus requiring more language/intelligence, creating a self-reinforcing cycle. Eventually, language and intelligence enabled culture, including technology.
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6/24/2012 6:36:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/24/2012 6:18:40 PM, ChickenTender wrote:
At 3/27/2012 11:38:15 AM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 3/27/2012 9:54:02 AM, devinni01841 wrote:
to talk about people and judge them for their decisions?

I'm not gonna lie, I'm guilty of it too, but there are these two girls that sit across from me in Econ calss and they gossip about people like they never do anything worth judging people for.

So why is it acceptable?
Is there some scientific reasoning for it?:

Two reasons, I would wager.

1. Humans are social creatures
2. Putting others down provides them a feeling of superiority over their peers.

Mammal societies are very complex. There is cooperation, but not the near complete elimination of internal competition as is seen in insect societies. Subgroups form within societies to compete with other individuals for subgroups. One theory is that language and intelligence began to develop to handle the complexity and the need to negotiate obligations to subgroups. But language and intelligence enable deception, thus adding more complexity, thus requiring more language/intelligence, creating a self-reinforcing cycle. Eventually, language and intelligence enabled culture, including technology.

What a bunch of useless drivel... insectoid intelligence blah blah blah...