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6/7/2012 1:34:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 1:09:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
He should have been charged with rape, because that's honestly what it was.

But how much rights does a water bottle have?
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6/7/2012 1:42:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 1:34:17 PM, Lasagna wrote:
At 6/7/2012 1:09:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
He should have been charged with rape, because that's honestly what it was.

But how much rights does a water bottle have?

It isn't about the water bottle, it's about her. He made her commit a sexual act without her consent.
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6/7/2012 2:04:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Wow. That is disgusting. I would have been enraged if I were that woman. Not only is that assault, it is a biohazard. He could have given her any number of diseases.

What a pathetic little sh!t.
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6/7/2012 3:11:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
This is humiliating (to both parties) but is it really on the same level as rape? If he doesn't have a disease, then there is no potentiality to spread one...
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6/7/2012 3:18:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 3:11:22 PM, Lasagna wrote:
This is humiliating (to both parties) but is it really on the same level as rape?
Yes. He basically tricked her into drinking . . .

I don't even want to say it. I'm starting to feel queasy just thinking about it :/
If he doesn't have a disease, then there is no potentiality to spread one...
That doesn't mean it's not rape.
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6/7/2012 4:13:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 1:34:17 PM, Lasagna wrote:
At 6/7/2012 1:09:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
He should have been charged with rape, because that's honestly what it was.

But how much rights does a water bottle have?

Brilliant.
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6/7/2012 4:53:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 1:42:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 6/7/2012 1:34:17 PM, Lasagna wrote:
At 6/7/2012 1:09:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
He should have been charged with rape, because that's honestly what it was.

But how much rights does a water bottle have?

It isn't about the water bottle, it's about her. He made her commit a sexual act without her consent.

umm.. I wouldn't call that a sexual act...

but it's certainly gross.
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6/7/2012 4:55:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 4:53:39 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 6/7/2012 1:42:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 6/7/2012 1:34:17 PM, Lasagna wrote:
At 6/7/2012 1:09:10 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
He should have been charged with rape, because that's honestly what it was.

But how much rights does a water bottle have?

It isn't about the water bottle, it's about her. He made her commit a sexual act without her consent.

umm.. I wouldn't call that a sexual act...

Drinking that stuff is not considered sexual? Give me a break.
but it's certainly gross.
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6/7/2012 5:00:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 3:18:52 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
That doesn't mean it's not rape.

it's gross, a sex crime.. but it's not rape.

"rape" is, from what I can tell, linked to Insertion :/.. and Coercion/Force...

He deceived her into doing something gross/potentially harmful for his own sick enjoyment :/
but he never did any sex acts with her.. or such...
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

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6/7/2012 5:02:41 PM
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If, while a cow is being milked, it ejaculates and some semen lands in the milk and a few days later you have some cereal, did the cow rape you?
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6/7/2012 5:02:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 4:55:52 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Drinking that stuff is not considered sexual? Give me a break.
but it's certainly gross.

it's... after sexual.. :/
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

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6/7/2012 5:03:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 5:02:41 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
If, while a cow is being milked, it ejaculates and some semen

That would be one odd cow.
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

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6/7/2012 5:04:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 5:02:41 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
If, while a cow is being milked, it ejaculates and some semen lands in the milk and a few days later you have some cereal, did the cow rape you?

Considering that female cows do not produce semen, I don't think your example has any merit.
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6/7/2012 5:07:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 5:04:15 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 6/7/2012 5:02:41 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
If, while a cow is being milked, it ejaculates and some semen lands in the milk and a few days later you have some cereal, did the cow rape you?

Considering that female cows do not produce semen, I don't think your example has any merit.

well, it's an analogy meant to demonstrate a point... one that is disconnected from his examples actual possibility in reality... so it could have merit despite not being realistic..

however, where it fails is that it's NOT akin to the case in that that slightly Unrealistic, hermaphroditic, Cow presumably wouldn't have consciously been aware of, and planned upon, having you drink All manner of it's leavings :/
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

Metaphysics:
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6/7/2012 5:10:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'd say 6 months, 27 Grand (for Bills/work and such), additional probation.. and sex offender listing is a substantial and fitting punishment.
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

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6/7/2012 5:12:12 PM
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..........

I'm going to go about my day and pretend like I didn't read that article.
"What article?" you might ask.

"Hell if I know!" I would reply.
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6/7/2012 5:14:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 5:12:12 PM, Zaradi wrote:
..........

I'm going to go about my day and pretend like I didn't read that article.
"What article?" you might ask.

"Hell if I know!" I would reply.

yeah, I had a feeling I shouldn't have clicked on it...

but once I saw the posts.. I just can't pass up an argument.
"He who does not know how to put his will into things at least puts a meaning into them: that is, he believes there is a will in them already."

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6/7/2012 5:23:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 5:03:34 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 6/7/2012 5:02:41 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
If, while a cow is being milked, it ejaculates and some semen

That would be one odd cow.

lmfao
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6/7/2012 5:29:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 5:02:41 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
If, while a cow is being milked, it ejaculates and some semen lands in the milk and a few days later you have some cereal, did the cow rape you?

That's not a cow, and that's not an udder.
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6/7/2012 5:35:52 PM
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It is unsurprising that a gross act of trickery is illegal. What is surprising is that the offender had to register as a sexual offender which I feel is unfair because it puts him in the same category as rapists and ensures he will be unemployed for life.

Consider an analogy: stealing is wrong but we don't give thieves the death penalty. Sure, what the guy did was wrong but it doesn't justify making him register as a sex offender.
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6/7/2012 5:36:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 5:35:52 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
It is unsurprising that a gross act of trickery is illegal. What is surprising is that the offender had to register as a sexual offender which I feel is unfair because it puts him in the same category as rapists and ensures he will be unemployed for life.

He IS a rapist.
Consider an analogy: stealing is wrong but we don't give thieves the death penalty. Sure, what the guy did was wrong but it doesn't justify making him register as a sex offender.
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6/7/2012 5:37:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/7/2012 5:07:46 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 6/7/2012 5:04:15 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 6/7/2012 5:02:41 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
If, while a cow is being milked, it ejaculates and some semen lands in the milk and a few days later you have some cereal, did the cow rape you?

Considering that female cows do not produce semen, I don't think your example has any merit.

well, it's an analogy meant to demonstrate a point... one that is disconnected from his examples actual possibility in reality... so it could have merit despite not being realistic..

however, where it fails is that it's NOT akin to the case in that that slightly Unrealistic, hermaphroditic, Cow presumably wouldn't have consciously been aware of, and planned upon, having you drink All manner of it's leavings :/

Say it was a pervert cow-creature-thing that knew that someone would drink the milk.
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Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

~ Rush