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Xer
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10/1/2009 7:41:56 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/1/2009 7:41:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/1/2009 2:14:38 PM, Debatenewbie14 wrote:
if you could maybe give me a list of LD values that would be great

Value: Social Order

Criterion: Fascism

Motherf*cker.
Cody_Franklin
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10/1/2009 7:42:58 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/1/2009 7:41:56 PM, Nags wrote:
At 10/1/2009 7:41:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 10/1/2009 2:14:38 PM, Debatenewbie14 wrote:
if you could maybe give me a list of LD values that would be great

Value: Social Order

Criterion: Fascism

Motherf*cker.

I'm just trying to warm up to the role that you guys are trying to force me into. :)
Ragnar_Rahl
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10/1/2009 10:17:04 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Hey, force is your thing.
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10/2/2009 8:36:04 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/2/2009 6:43:14 AM, theLwerd wrote:
At 10/1/2009 10:17:04 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
Hey, force is your thing.

LOL I love this man.

F*cking ditto'd.
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So... what's there to destroy evil inside of and above the constitutional government?
SportsGuru
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10/3/2009 8:08:39 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/3/2009 5:31:45 PM, Debatenewbie14 wrote:
i ment like values and VC

You can value anything you want; you could go into a round with the value of equal access to cheeseburgers. The question is not what your value is, but how you justify your value over your opponent's value and vc.
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10/10/2009 7:56:08 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 10/7/2009 4:45:46 PM, Flyinglow wrote:
what resolution?

Doesn't matter; I think he was being general.

Values:
-Justice
-Liberty
-Social Order
-Equality
-General Welfare
-Charity
-Life
-Ease of pain

VC:
-Preservation of _____________
-Elimination of _____________
-Transformation of ___________
-Re-establishment of __________
-Upholding of ______________
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Metz
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10/10/2009 10:54:48 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Hmm I once saw someone value Nihilism... Does anyone else see the irony here?
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RoyLatham
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10/11/2009 11:51:08 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
What I perceive from watching LD debates, and I think what people are saying in he thread, is that while the value and value criteria for LD might seem to be very important, in practice they are not. There is no standard list of values, because it usually is not the center of contention. Consequently, you are free to assert just about anything you want as the value and value criterion, and you don't have to worry much about it being rejected or argued against as being improper. I observe that the value criteria usually restates the value, but more narrowly.

If the resolution is to force somebody to do something, a good starting point is either "fairness" or "public good." If the resolution is to remove restrictions, then "liberty" or "freedom" would be staring points.