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inferno
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1/15/2013 9:52:22 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
It has more to do with the way we as people value life in a modern day world. Since America has more muders and abortions than any other industrialized country in the entire world, you can bet that the devalualization of humanity has very much to do with this problem. Sexism is a seperate issue within itself. Our social norms create these gender wars that are being perpetuated by inequality and sexual discrimination.
Women are not necessarily stronger than Men physically speaking. So what is it that makes Men impose their will on such delicate beings ? Is it learned behaviors ? Is it media ?
Is it music and pop culture ? Is it politics ? Is it religion ?
Well we can only speculate what has created the culture of disrespect. But we do know that it is a moral agenda nevertheless. Take a look at the statistics chart on the link below and let me know what you think. Is this for real.

http://en.wikipedia.org...
inferno
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1/15/2013 12:14:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 9:52:22 AM, inferno wrote:
It has more to do with the way we as people value life in a modern day world. Since America has more muders and abortions than any other industrialized country in the entire world, you can bet that the devalualization of humanity has very much to do with this problem. Sexism is a seperate issue within itself. Our social norms create these gender wars that are being perpetuated by inequality and sexual discrimination.
Women are not necessarily stronger than Men physically speaking. So what is it that makes Men impose their will on such delicate beings ? Is it learned behaviors ? Is it media ?
Is it music and pop culture ? Is it politics ? Is it religion ?
Well we can only speculate what has created the culture of disrespect. But we do know that it is a moral agenda nevertheless. Take a look at the statistics chart on the link below and let me know what you think. Is this for real.

http://en.wikipedia.org...

The truth still stranger than fiction.
CarefulNow
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1/15/2013 3:29:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
The rate of abortions and murders is irrelevant. Murders are more severely punished in the US than most places, and abortion and other forms of euthanasia are more restricted. That reflects social values, particticularly your very shallow, religious respect for life.

The weak are victimized because it's easy, obviously. But rape is abnormal because the best it can accomplish is a fair fight against the sperm of the victims' consensual partners for the replication of one's genes in alliance with other genes that are poor at avoiding rape; an estranged daughter who gets raped is as useless to a rapist as it is to anyone else. And more likely, the woman's husband and brothers, if not the broader group, will prevent the rape or at least make the rapist pay. So it's obvious why inequality contributes to rape (and crime generally); it gives the single or cuckolded majority of men less to lose. To a lesser but still significant extent, the alienation particular to capitalism makes it relatively easy to do it anonymously and find equally marginalized victims. You'll find your stats are more consistent with that theory.
inferno
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1/16/2013 12:05:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 3:29:14 PM, CarefulNow wrote:
The rate of abortions and murders is irrelevant. Murders are more severely punished in the US than most places, and abortion and other forms of euthanasia are more restricted. That reflects social values, particticularly your very shallow, religious respect for life.

The weak are victimized because it's easy, obviously. But rape is abnormal because the best it can accomplish is a fair fight against the sperm of the victims' consensual partners for the replication of one's genes in alliance with other genes that are poor at avoiding rape; an estranged daughter who gets raped is as useless to a rapist as it is to anyone else. And more likely, the woman's husband and brothers, if not the broader group, will prevent the rape or at least make the rapist pay. So it's obvious why inequality contributes to rape (and crime generally); it gives the single or cuckolded majority of men less to lose. To a lesser but still significant extent, the alienation particular to capitalism makes it relatively easy to do it anonymously and find equally marginalized victims. You'll find your stats are more consistent with that theory.

What do you think is the cause of this on the US today. Why is rape such a widespread crime even in todays so called civilized civilization.
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1/16/2013 12:38:29 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/16/2013 12:05:22 PM, inferno wrote:
What do you think is the cause of this on the US today. Why is rape such a widespread crime even in todays so called civilized civilization.

Because, as I said, the number one predictor of crime is inequality, whether it's consistent with one's notion of civilization or not.
malcolmxy
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1/17/2013 2:49:37 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/16/2013 12:05:22 PM, inferno wrote:
At 1/15/2013 3:29:14 PM, CarefulNow wrote:
The rate of abortions and murders is irrelevant. Murders are more severely punished in the US than most places, and abortion and other forms of euthanasia are more restricted. That reflects social values, particticularly your very shallow, religious respect for life.

The weak are victimized because it's easy, obviously. But rape is abnormal because the best it can accomplish is a fair fight against the sperm of the victims' consensual partners for the replication of one's genes in alliance with other genes that are poor at avoiding rape; an estranged daughter who gets raped is as useless to a rapist as it is to anyone else. And more likely, the woman's husband and brothers, if not the broader group, will prevent the rape or at least make the rapist pay. So it's obvious why inequality contributes to rape (and crime generally); it gives the single or cuckolded majority of men less to lose. To a lesser but still significant extent, the alienation particular to capitalism makes it relatively easy to do it anonymously and find equally marginalized victims. You'll find your stats are more consistent with that theory.

What do you think is the cause of this on the US today. Why is rape such a widespread crime even in todays so called civilized civilization.

This is what rape has been about, it is what rape is about, and it is what rape will always be about.

When a boy is made to feel powerless at the dawn of puberty by a woman, it destroys their ego and they become twisted rapists in an effort to regain this aspect of their psyche they never had in the first place.

The rest - date and spousal rape is no more prevalent today than it's ever been. It's simply illegal and occasionally enforced now.
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inferno
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1/17/2013 8:34:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/16/2013 12:38:29 PM, CarefulNow wrote:
At 1/16/2013 12:05:22 PM, inferno wrote:
What do you think is the cause of this on the US today. Why is rape such a widespread crime even in todays so called civilized civilization.

Because, as I said, the number one predictor of crime is inequality, whether it's consistent with one's notion of civilization or not.

Inequality.............But what does this have to do with imposing your will upon another individual. What is the gain.
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1/17/2013 4:03:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/17/2013 8:34:14 AM, inferno wrote:
Inequality.............But what does this have to do with imposing your will upon another individual. What is the gain.

As I said, the gain is injection of one's sperm into a female of one's choosing. Any modern means the rapist uses to prevent that or the victim to prevent its resulting in childbirth are irrelevant, because we're largely the result of evolution prior to such means and even the conscious connection between sex and pregnancy; it was enough for our genes to make sex feel good to make us reproduce, and it still is enough to make us have sex. Where inequality comes into play is rather in the cost column; the poor man's prospects for a relationship with a decent faithful woman are low, as is his value to what's left of his family, so he risks little by raping or committing other lucrative crimes. More importantly, rape is a kind of violence, and violence in and of itself is quite healthy for frustrated persons and animals generally.
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1/18/2013 10:59:35 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/17/2013 4:03:59 PM, CarefulNow wrote:
At 1/17/2013 8:34:14 AM, inferno wrote:
Inequality.............But what does this have to do with imposing your will upon another individual. What is the gain.

As I said, the gain is injection of one's sperm into a female of one's choosing. Any modern means the rapist uses to prevent that or the victim to prevent its resulting in childbirth are irrelevant, because we're largely the result of evolution prior to such means and even the conscious connection between sex and pregnancy; it was enough for our genes to make sex feel good to make us reproduce, and it still is enough to make us have sex. Where inequality comes into play is rather in the cost column; the poor man's prospects for a relationship with a decent faithful woman are low, as is his value to what's left of his family, so he risks little by raping or committing other lucrative crimes. More importantly, rape is a kind of violence, and violence in and of itself is quite healthy for frustrated persons and animals generally.

Ill get back with you later on this..........
Budlightyear
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1/22/2013 11:52:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/15/2013 9:52:22 AM, inferno wrote:
It has more to do with the way we as people value life in a modern day world.

Ancient armies would rape and pillage lands they conquered. Rape has happened since prehistory. It has nothing, in particular, to do with the modern world.

Since America has more muders and abortions than any other industrialized country in the entire world, you can bet that the devalualization of humanity has very much to do with this problem.

You could argue that America has more murders and abortions due to a lot of factors. You could also argue that a lot of countries have more murders than America, and that "Murder Rates" as a statistic, in general, are more subject to the way the police operate as well as whether crimes in that country are likely to get reported in the first place.

Sexism is a seperate issue within itself. Our social norms create these gender wars that are being perpetuated by inequality and sexual discrimination.

Evidence?

Women are not necessarily stronger than Men physically speaking. So what is it that makes Men impose their will on such delicate beings ? Is it learned behaviors ? Is it media ? Is it music and pop culture ? Is it politics ? Is it religion ?
Well we can only speculate what has created the culture of disrespect.

I think most feminists would reject the idea of being called "delicate beings."

In regard to the question, try another: Evolutionary adaption. Perhaps it's a socially maladaptive strategy to spread one's genes.

And none of the above.

But we do know that it is a moral agenda nevertheless. Take a look at the statistics chart on the link below and let me know what you think. Is this for real.
http://en.wikipedia.org...
rross
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1/23/2013 4:26:38 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
No, no. Actually, those are good statistics for the US.
High rape statistics means that women feel they can report rape, which is great. In other countries, the victims are punished more than the perpetrators, or there are no laws to support them, and women wouldn't dream of reporting rapes to police. These countries have very low incidence of rape statistically, but of course rape is still occurring and the situation of women in those countries is far worse than in the US.
No, this is an example of the US doing well on something! Relatively speaking, obviously. Still room for improvement.
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1/23/2013 1:25:53 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/23/2013 4:26:38 AM, rross wrote:
No, no. Actually, those are good statistics for the US.

Sure, as long as you assume the rape rate to be a constant, which is of course absurd.
inferno
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1/23/2013 3:43:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/23/2013 1:25:53 PM, CarefulNow wrote:
At 1/23/2013 4:26:38 AM, rross wrote:
No, no. Actually, those are good statistics for the US.

Sure, as long as you assume the rape rate to be a constant, which is of course absurd.

Of course it is. These are high even by modern day standards.
America is a sesspool for rape and abuse towards females.