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4/4/2013 4:17:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
"I felt like there had to be a change because for me to be a black person and the king to be a white person, I felt like, you know why can't we come together,"

This would have been an insightful comment.... TWO HUNDRED YEARS AGO
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4/4/2013 4:24:50 PM
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lol
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4/4/2013 9:16:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
DDOs thoughts, if both the majority black students and white students favored the segregation of the proms, would that really be such a bad thing?
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4/4/2013 9:19:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:16:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:
DDOs thoughts, if both the majority black students and white students favored the segregation of the proms, would that really be such a bad thing?

It'd be a bad thing if they'd favor such a thing, so yes.
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4/4/2013 9:20:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:16:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:
DDOs thoughts, if both the majority black students and white students favored the segregation of the proms, would that really be such a bad thing?

If they are forced to go to that school, yes.
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4/4/2013 9:23:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:20:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:16:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:
DDOs thoughts, if both the majority black students and white students favored the segregation of the proms, would that really be such a bad thing?

If they are forced to go to that school, yes.

technically at the age of 16+ your not forced. But I'm in favor of school vouchers and against compulsory education anyways.

Why?

It should be noted that at the university level, and maybe even high school level (went to a mainly white hs so not much diversity) there are asian clubs, african clubs, and hispanic clubs that do there own thing and have their own events.
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4/4/2013 9:25:03 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:19:21 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:16:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:
DDOs thoughts, if both the majority black students and white students favored the segregation of the proms, would that really be such a bad thing?

It'd be a bad thing if they'd favor such a thing, so yes.

Why?
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4/4/2013 9:27:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:23:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:20:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:16:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:
DDOs thoughts, if both the majority black students and white students favored the segregation of the proms, would that really be such a bad thing?

If they are forced to go to that school, yes.

technically at the age of 16+ your not forced. But I'm in favor of school vouchers and against compulsory education anyways.

Why?

It should be noted that at the university level, and maybe even high school level (went to a mainly white hs so not much diversity) there are asian clubs, african clubs, and hispanic clubs that do there own thing and have their own events.

Diversity clubs discriminate because of their very nature. Dances held by the school, however, have no justifiable reason for being segregated (is that even legal?).
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4/4/2013 9:28:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:25:03 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:19:21 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:16:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:
DDOs thoughts, if both the majority black students and white students favored the segregation of the proms, would that really be such a bad thing?

It'd be a bad thing if they'd favor such a thing, so yes.

Why?

You can't figure out why it's bad if people are racist?
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4/4/2013 9:30:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Once more, the segregation wasn't merely segregation by racial association, no, blacks seen at the white prom would be escorted out!
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4/4/2013 9:30:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:27:30 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:23:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:20:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:16:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:
DDOs thoughts, if both the majority black students and white students favored the segregation of the proms, would that really be such a bad thing?

If they are forced to go to that school, yes.

technically at the age of 16+ your not forced. But I'm in favor of school vouchers and against compulsory education anyways.

Why?

It should be noted that at the university level, and maybe even high school level (went to a mainly white hs so not much diversity) there are asian clubs, african clubs, and hispanic clubs that do there own thing and have their own events.

Diversity clubs discriminate because of their very nature. Dances held by the school, however, have no justifiable reason for being segregated (is that even legal?).

It's not legal. In this case the prom is organized by students and technically isn't a school event... so there's no legal issue with it.
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4/4/2013 9:30:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:23:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:20:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:16:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:
DDOs thoughts, if both the majority black students and white students favored the segregation of the proms, would that really be such a bad thing?

If they are forced to go to that school, yes.

technically at the age of 16+ your not forced. But I'm in favor of school vouchers and against compulsory education anyways.

Why?
Because if it's a private business, it should have the right to impose policies like this. I mistook the question for asking if it should be allowed. I still think it's abhorrent behavior.


It should be noted that at the university level, and maybe even high school level (went to a mainly white hs so not much diversity) there are asian clubs, african clubs, and hispanic clubs that do there own thing and have their own events.

That's incredibly stupid.
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4/4/2013 9:34:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:27:30 PM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:23:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:20:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:16:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:
DDOs thoughts, if both the majority black students and white students favored the segregation of the proms, would that really be such a bad thing?

If they are forced to go to that school, yes.

technically at the age of 16+ your not forced. But I'm in favor of school vouchers and against compulsory education anyways.

Why?

It should be noted that at the university level, and maybe even high school level (went to a mainly white hs so not much diversity) there are asian clubs, african clubs, and hispanic clubs that do there own thing and have their own events.

Diversity clubs discriminate because of their very nature. Dances held by the school, however, have no justifiable reason for being segregated (is that even legal?).

So why do you tolerate one and not the other?
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4/4/2013 9:39:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:30:49 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:23:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:20:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:16:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:
DDOs thoughts, if both the majority black students and white students favored the segregation of the proms, would that really be such a bad thing?

If they are forced to go to that school, yes.

technically at the age of 16+ your not forced. But I'm in favor of school vouchers and against compulsory education anyways.

Why?
Because if it's a private business, it should have the right to impose policies like this. I mistook the question for asking if it should be allowed. I still think it's abhorrent behavior.

It doesn't make too much of a difference whether an institution is a government or a business. Really the only difference is that people have a say in how government is run while businesses, the owners have the right to do what they want. So really, government can be thought of just everyone in a geographical proximate area owning a share of the government.



It should be noted that at the university level, and maybe even high school level (went to a mainly white hs so not much diversity) there are asian clubs, african clubs, and hispanic clubs that do there own thing and have their own events.

That's incredibly stupid.

So do u advocate for the removal of them. Or just don't think they should be organized, but still think its a bad idea.

Its pretty obvious that people have racial preferences for people in their own race.
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4/4/2013 9:42:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:39:20 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:30:49 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:23:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:20:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:16:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:
DDOs thoughts, if both the majority black students and white students favored the segregation of the proms, would that really be such a bad thing?

If they are forced to go to that school, yes.

technically at the age of 16+ your not forced. But I'm in favor of school vouchers and against compulsory education anyways.

Why?
Because if it's a private business, it should have the right to impose policies like this. I mistook the question for asking if it should be allowed. I still think it's abhorrent behavior.

It doesn't make too much of a difference whether an institution is a government or a business. Really the only difference is that people have a say in how government is run while businesses, the owners have the right to do what they want. So really, government can be thought of just everyone in a geographical proximate area owning a share of the government.
Yes, but aren't public schools governed by zoning laws?



It should be noted that at the university level, and maybe even high school level (went to a mainly white hs so not much diversity) there are asian clubs, african clubs, and hispanic clubs that do there own thing and have their own events.

That's incredibly stupid.

So do u advocate for the removal of them. Or just don't think they should be organized, but still think its a bad idea.
I would like for them to not exist, but I wouldn't advocate forcefully outlawing them.

Its pretty obvious that people have racial preferences for people in their own race.

So what? That's incredibly stupid.
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4/4/2013 9:46:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
What the fvck?!
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4/4/2013 9:46:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:42:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:39:20 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:30:49 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:23:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:20:30 PM, bossyburrito wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:16:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:
DDOs thoughts, if both the majority black students and white students favored the segregation of the proms, would that really be such a bad thing?

If they are forced to go to that school, yes.

technically at the age of 16+ your not forced. But I'm in favor of school vouchers and against compulsory education anyways.

Why?
Because if it's a private business, it should have the right to impose policies like this. I mistook the question for asking if it should be allowed. I still think it's abhorrent behavior.

It doesn't make too much of a difference whether an institution is a government or a business. Really the only difference is that people have a say in how government is run while businesses, the owners have the right to do what they want. So really, government can be thought of just everyone in a geographical proximate area owning a share of the government.
Yes, but aren't public schools governed by zoning laws?

Yes. Them and everything else in the world.



It should be noted that at the university level, and maybe even high school level (went to a mainly white hs so not much diversity) there are asian clubs, african clubs, and hispanic clubs that do there own thing and have their own events.

That's incredibly stupid.

So do u advocate for the removal of them. Or just don't think they should be organized, but still think its a bad idea.
I would like for them to not exist, but I wouldn't advocate forcefully outlawing them.

Its pretty obvious that people have racial preferences for people in their own race.

So what? That's incredibly stupid.

Its a nonrational issue. Its a preference, that is all. Just like going on DDO or playing video games is a preference.
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4/4/2013 9:47:48 PM
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Isn't this illegal?
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4/4/2013 10:36:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:47:48 PM, OberHerr wrote:
Isn't this illegal?

No. The proms in question are arranged by the students and are technically not part of the school. If the school was to arrange segregated proms, that would be illegal.

That said, I don't think legality is the issue here, the fact that the students want segregated proms should be the focus of what is disturbing here.
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4/4/2013 10:56:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 10:36:01 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:47:48 PM, OberHerr wrote:
Isn't this illegal?

No. The proms in question are arranged by the students and are technically not part of the school. If the school was to arrange segregated proms, that would be illegal.

That said, I don't think legality is the issue here, the fact that the students want segregated proms should be the focus of what is disturbing here.

Why? People segregate themselves all the time. As previously mentioned, college groups separate themselves on the basis of race all the time. What is different here?
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4/4/2013 11:08:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 10:56:52 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
At 4/4/2013 10:36:01 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
At 4/4/2013 9:47:48 PM, OberHerr wrote:
Isn't this illegal?

No. The proms in question are arranged by the students and are technically not part of the school. If the school was to arrange segregated proms, that would be illegal.

That said, I don't think legality is the issue here, the fact that the students want segregated proms should be the focus of what is disturbing here.

Why? People segregate themselves all the time. As previously mentioned, college groups separate themselves on the basis of race all the time. What is different here?

There is none.
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4/4/2013 11:28:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:16:32 PM, darkkermit wrote:
DDOs thoughts, if both the majority black students and white students favored the segregation of the proms, would that really be such a bad thing?

Yes, because the authorities would be catering to the racists.
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4/4/2013 11:43:13 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/4/2013 9:17:21 PM, Wnope wrote:
Wonder how they feel bout gay marriage.

We need to find a bi-racial, homo, toyota-driving Islamic couple to crash their next prom. Anybody know anyone that will do?
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4/5/2013 12:21:45 AM
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University groups don't call police to escort people out for not being part of the group. Being white doesn't mean you can't join a club for Asian or black people.
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4/5/2013 12:23:30 AM
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At 4/5/2013 12:21:45 AM, tulle wrote:
University groups don't call police to escort people out for not being part of the group. Being white doesn't mean you can't join a club for Asian or black people.

Uh, yeah it does. I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be able to join the National Association of Black Accountants.
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4/5/2013 12:26:47 AM
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At 4/5/2013 12:21:45 AM, tulle wrote:
University groups don't call police to escort people out for not being part of the group. Being white doesn't mean you can't join a club for Asian or black people.

Yes it does... unless you're talking about a club about the culture of different races (which is still completely irrational).
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4/5/2013 12:29:32 AM
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I don't know that that's a thing. But I do know that schools here do not prevent people from joining their club simply for being part of an out-group. I know of white people who are interested in "black history" or "black issues" and have thus joined black clubs. But if you're not interested, why would you join? These clubs aren't convening for any reason but to discuss issues pertinent to its members. Your race is irrelevant so long as you are participating as a member. Prom doesn't even require that.
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