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The Welfare Problem

errya
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4/24/2013 6:53:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Hey. For my English class, part of my homework is to write a small piece on a relevant issue that I was interested in. I chose the problem of Welfare and my gut reaction to that was that it should be cut, as it drains the governments funds, often isn't necessary, and can often be taken advantage of. But really, I don't know much at all about the pros and cons of welfare and the debate surrounding it. So would someone care to inform me? Thanks :D
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4/24/2013 8:09:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Well I would say that main argument, in principle, is that it grows government. So, you take $5 and give it to a homeless guy and he gets $5. But, if you give $5 to the government to give to the homeless guy, he will get only $1 or $2 (I don't know the math, but something like that) since we have to pay for the administrative elements of a welfare program.

However, if we don't have welfare, then there are severe ethical problems with poverty which capitalism in and of itself simply does not address.
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tulle
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4/24/2013 10:31:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/24/2013 8:09:07 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
Well I would say that main argument, in principle, is that it grows government. So, you take $5 and give it to a homeless guy and he gets $5. But, if you give $5 to the government to give to the homeless guy, he will get only $1 or $2 (I don't know the math, but something like that) since we have to pay for the administrative elements of a welfare program.


I think doing it through the government provides accountability (on the homeless man's part). If that homeless man goes to a soup kitchen and gets his $1-2 I would feel much better about that than giving him $5 directly and not knowing if it's going toward drugs or something.

However, if we don't have welfare, then there are severe ethical problems with poverty which capitalism in and of itself simply does not address.
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errya
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4/24/2013 11:16:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Thanks :)
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4/25/2013 12:31:12 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 4/24/2013 6:53:35 PM, errya wrote:
Hey. For my English class, part of my homework is to write a small piece on a relevant issue that I was interested in. I chose the problem of Welfare and my gut reaction to that was that it should be cut, as it drains the governments funds

what would these funds go to instead?

often isn't necessary
in what way?
One could argue that people starving in the street is more likely to increase crime.

and can often be taken advantage of.
So can any government (and most private) program.

But really, I don't know much at all about the pros and cons of welfare and the debate surrounding it. So would someone care to inform me? Thanks :D

I would first start out saying what you define as welfare.
Yes, yes, food stamps and housing assistence, I am sure.
But, are social security, medicare, military housing, government loans (education, small business loans from the SBA), or various tax credits (child tax, earned income, higher education) considered welfare?
Why or why not?
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5/28/2013 8:54:24 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
kill all the blacks they are the ones that are homeless. bring this nation back to the good slavery days. WHITE POWER!
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