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cybertron1998
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6/5/2013 3:56:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
so i can think of countless times where things have been banned or people ridiculed just because of a symbol that relates to a something thought of as bad.
example: there was a pokemon card that had to be recalled because it had the swastika on it when it means something entirely different.

so why do we have to do this?
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6/5/2013 5:23:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Because the people who decide whether to ban things are the people who need support from the loudest and least sophisticated yokels of any given community.
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6/5/2013 5:25:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
A Mayoral candidate from my home region once had to apologize at length for calling a fiscally-conservative black opponent "niggardly."
Graincruncher
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6/5/2013 5:36:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
How magnificently racist of him. I'm not sure that racial inequality is a symbol though, much less one anyone should care about being discouraged.
Skepsikyma
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6/5/2013 10:37:31 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/5/2013 5:36:10 PM, Graincruncher wrote:
How magnificently racist of him. I'm not sure that racial inequality is a symbol though, much less one anyone should care about being discouraged.

Um, the point is that the term 'niggardly' has nothing to do with race. It's a word for a miser or generally stingy person which simply sounds similar to another, much more insulting word.
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6/5/2013 11:19:13 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/5/2013 11:15:29 PM, bladerunner060 wrote:
I do find the etymology involved fascinating:

http://en.wikipedia.org...

I love this: http://news.google.com...
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6/5/2013 11:32:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/5/2013 3:56:05 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
so i can think of countless times where things have been banned or people ridiculed just because of a symbol that relates to a something thought of as bad.
example: there was a pokemon card that had to be recalled because it had the swastika on it when it means something entirely different.

so why do we have to do this?

The swastika is everywhere, man:
https://maps.google.com...
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Wnope
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6/6/2013 12:35:02 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/5/2013 11:32:40 PM, drhead wrote:
At 6/5/2013 3:56:05 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
so i can think of countless times where things have been banned or people ridiculed just because of a symbol that relates to a something thought of as bad.
example: there was a pokemon card that had to be recalled because it had the swastika on it when it means something entirely different.

so why do we have to do this?

The swastika is everywhere, man:
https://maps.google.com...

That, and the fact that a backwards swastika is a religious symbol used for thousands of years.

Says a lot that the best english language that the easiest way to describe the symbol is "backwards swastika."
FREEDO
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6/6/2013 1:56:32 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Symbols absolutely rule every facet of human life. Every one of us is completely obsessed with them. It is the only thing which separates us from the animals, for better or worse.
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6/6/2013 5:37:46 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/6/2013 1:56:32 AM, FREEDO wrote:
Symbols absolutely rule every facet of human life. Every one of us is completely obsessed with them. It is the only thing which separates us from the animals, for better or worse.

I'm not sure what you mean here, could you expound on this?
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6/6/2013 9:55:46 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/6/2013 1:56:32 AM, FREEDO wrote:
Symbols absolutely rule every facet of human life. Every one of us is completely obsessed with them. It is the only thing which separates us from the animals, for better or worse.

Yes. We use symbols everyday.
cybertron1998
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6/6/2013 12:59:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
so this is the picture

http://i22.ebayimg.com...
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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6/6/2013 4:43:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/6/2013 5:37:46 AM, muzebreak wrote:
At 6/6/2013 1:56:32 AM, FREEDO wrote:
Symbols absolutely rule every facet of human life. Every one of us is completely obsessed with them. It is the only thing which separates us from the animals, for better or worse.

I'm not sure what you mean here, could you expound on this?

The ability to understand symbolism is a singularity in intelligence. Language is it's more obvious form. But it reaches further than that. Everything we understand about the world is understood through symbolism.
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6/6/2013 9:49:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/5/2013 5:25:51 PM, Wnope wrote:
A Mayoral candidate from my home region once had to apologize at length for calling a fiscally-conservative black opponent "niggardly."

Can I just take a moment and bask in the glory of how hilarious that situation is?
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RyuuKyuzo
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6/6/2013 9:58:44 PM
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At 6/5/2013 5:25:51 PM, Wnope wrote:
A Mayoral candidate from my home region once had to apologize at length for calling a fiscally-conservative black opponent "niggardly."

He did it on purpose. No one uses the word "niggardly" anymore. That cheeky c*nt knew what he was doing.
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Ore_Ele
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6/7/2013 12:06:23 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 6/5/2013 3:56:05 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
so i can think of countless times where things have been banned or people ridiculed just because of a symbol that relates to a something thought of as bad.
example: there was a pokemon card that had to be recalled because it had the swastika on it when it means something entirely different.

so why do we have to do this?

It is programmed into our brains. Our brains are designed to recognize patterns and associations, with a fundamental focus on things which may potentially be hazardous. After, whether logical or not, when it comes to survival (which is what our genes have been focused on for millions of years), it is better safe than sorry.
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