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psychout
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10/13/2013 12:46:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Society says its wrong. I agree, it does not teach a child why what they did was wrong or how to act in other ways. It is simply a punishment to stop a behavior, when what we should be doing is using discipline and guidance to teach the child that their behavior was wrong and how to learn from that and modify it. Of course, it is also cruel and harmful, and simply teaches to child that physical aggression is okay.
Khaos_Mage
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10/13/2013 1:05:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 12:46:06 PM, psychout wrote:
Society says its wrong. I agree, it does not teach a child why what they did was wrong or how to act in other ways. It is simply a punishment to stop a behavior, when what we should be doing is using discipline and guidance to teach the child that their behavior was wrong and how to learn from that and modify it. Of course, it is also cruel and harmful, and simply teaches to child that physical aggression is okay.

And... how is a time-out any better without guidance?
Why do you assume that their is no guidance where there is spanking?
What do you do if your child is too young to understand words and concepts and consequences, like a two year old touching a hot oven?
My work here is, finally, done.
cybertron1998
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10/13/2013 1:21:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 12:46:06 PM, psychout wrote:
Society says its wrong. I agree, it does not teach a child why what they did was wrong or how to act in other ways. It is simply a punishment to stop a behavior, when what we should be doing is using discipline and guidance to teach the child that their behavior was wrong and how to learn from that and modify it. Of course, it is also cruel and harmful, and simply teaches to child that physical aggression is okay.

ummm no. yes spanking is a tad cruel, but it does teach a child that his behavior is wrong and not that physical aggression is ok. after about like 20 spankings something develops in the child's brain. what develops is a memory of what the result will be if they do this thing. the counterpart has been tested. every time a child did something they would give them a piece of candy. usually the action would be something like throwing trash away. over time scientists found that a development occurred and the child would do said thing over and over again.

Also, you can't root physical aggression to only spanking. A fair amount of physically aggressive people have that aggression caused by something else.
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
cybertron1998
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10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
Sitara
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10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)
cybertron1998
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10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
Sitara
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10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)
cybertron1998
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10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
Sitara
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10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)
cybertron1998
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10/13/2013 2:07:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)

so am i
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
cybertron1998
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10/13/2013 2:10:08 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)

10 bucks says you took it out when i said that
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
psychout
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10/13/2013 2:10:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 1:05:35 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 10/13/2013 12:46:06 PM, psychout wrote:
Society says its wrong. I agree, it does not teach a child why what they did was wrong or how to act in other ways. It is simply a punishment to stop a behavior, when what we should be doing is using discipline and guidance to teach the child that their behavior was wrong and how to learn from that and modify it. Of course, it is also cruel and harmful, and simply teaches to child that physical aggression is okay.

And... how is a time-out any better without guidance?
Why do you assume that their is no guidance where there is spanking?
What do you do if your child is too young to understand words and concepts and consequences, like a two year old touching a hot oven?

I never suggested a time out would be sufficient either. There is limited guidance when it comes to spanking. What you're telling a child when you spank them, is that, no, what you did was wrong, and I have to physically hurt you and make you cry so you understand that. Therefore, being physically aggressive is okay is the only thing that will make you listen. This is untrue.

First of all, a two year old should be constantly looked after, and that situation should be avoided as best as possible. Secondly, children can understand more than you think. You can guide a child without a spanking. If a two year old touches a hot stove, you obviously immediately remove them from the danger. I differentiate from behaviors done unknowingly and behaviors done purposely, because they are completely different in intention and should be therefore treated differently. After they are away from the situation, your face obviously looks worried and/or upset after that event. They understand how that made you feel, because you clearly did not smile or laugh after that behavior. And even if you think they don't understand, you can tell them 'no, we don't touch stoves, they are hot! You could burn yourself!'. Maybe even create a fun activity that can teach them how to differentiate from hot and cold. A behavior like that needs to especially be taught in a loving and meaningful teaching manner.
Mysterious_Stranger
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10/13/2013 2:11:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

As soon as I saw the thread I was expecting this...
Turn around, go back.
Sitara
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10/13/2013 2:12:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:11:10 PM, Mysterious_Stranger wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

As soon as I saw the thread I was expecting this...

I aim to please. ;)
psychout
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10/13/2013 2:13:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 1:21:15 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 12:46:06 PM, psychout wrote:
Society says its wrong. I agree, it does not teach a child why what they did was wrong or how to act in other ways. It is simply a punishment to stop a behavior, when what we should be doing is using discipline and guidance to teach the child that their behavior was wrong and how to learn from that and modify it. Of course, it is also cruel and harmful, and simply teaches to child that physical aggression is okay.

ummm no. yes spanking is a tad cruel, but it does teach a child that his behavior is wrong and not that physical aggression is ok. after about like 20 spankings something develops in the child's brain. what develops is a memory of what the result will be if they do this thing. the counterpart has been tested. every time a child did something they would give them a piece of candy. usually the action would be something like throwing trash away. over time scientists found that a development occurred and the child would do said thing over and over again.

Also, you can't root physical aggression to only spanking. A fair amount of physically aggressive people have that aggression caused by something else.

Okay, yes, there is a sequence of action and re action (aka consequence in this situation). However, spanking teaches the child that they should not do an action, not why what they did was wrong or what he SHOULD have done instead of that.
Sitara
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10/13/2013 2:15:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:10:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)

10 bucks says you took it out when i said that
Tee hee, no. I am just naughty. ;)
cybertron1998
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10/13/2013 2:17:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:15:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:10:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)

10 bucks says you took it out when i said that
Tee hee, no. I am just naughty. ;)

is this conversation in any bit arousing to you too
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
psychout
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10/13/2013 2:17:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:15:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:10:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)

10 bucks says you took it out when i said that
Tee hee, no. I am just naughty. ;)

Well, I'm all for you being spanked. Ha.
Sitara
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10/13/2013 2:20:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:17:51 PM, psychout wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:15:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:10:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)

10 bucks says you took it out when i said that
Tee hee, no. I am just naughty. ;)

Well, I'm all for you being spanked. Ha.
Me too. ;)
Mysterious_Stranger
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10/13/2013 2:25:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:17:22 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:15:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:10:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)

10 bucks says you took it out when i said that
Tee hee, no. I am just naughty. ;)

is this conversation in any bit arousing to you too

https://i.chzbgr.com...
Turn around, go back.
cybertron1998
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10/13/2013 2:42:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:20:36 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:17:51 PM, psychout wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:15:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:10:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)

10 bucks says you took it out when i said that
Tee hee, no. I am just naughty. ;)

Well, I'm all for you being spanked. Ha.
Me too. ;)

did you like overdose on viagra or something? ;)
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
Sitara
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10/13/2013 2:43:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:42:20 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:20:36 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:17:51 PM, psychout wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:15:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:10:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)

10 bucks says you took it out when i said that
Tee hee, no. I am just naughty. ;)

Well, I'm all for you being spanked. Ha.
Me too. ;)

did you like overdose on viagra or something? ;)
No. I am just a sexy b1tch. ;)
cybertron1998
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10/13/2013 2:47:13 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:43:21 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:42:20 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:20:36 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:17:51 PM, psychout wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:15:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:10:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)

10 bucks says you took it out when i said that
Tee hee, no. I am just naughty. ;)

Well, I'm all for you being spanked. Ha.
Me too. ;)

did you like overdose on viagra or something? ;)
No. I am just a sexy b1tch. ;)

ok now i am sure you are getting aroused by this conversation
Epsilon: There are so many stories where some brave hero decides to give their life to save the day, and because of their sacrifice, the good guys win, the survivors all cheer, and everybody lives happily ever after. But the hero... never gets to see that ending. They'll never know if their sacrifice actually made a difference. They'll never know if the day was really saved. In the end, they just have to have faith.
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10/13/2013 2:50:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:47:13 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:43:21 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:42:20 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:20:36 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:17:51 PM, psychout wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:15:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:10:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)

10 bucks says you took it out when i said that
Tee hee, no. I am just naughty. ;)

Well, I'm all for you being spanked. Ha.
Me too. ;)

did you like overdose on viagra or something? ;)
No. I am just a sexy b1tch. ;)

ok now i am sure you are getting aroused by this conversation

No, but I am horny from listening to tango music. I just have a high sex drive. ;)
cybertron1998
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10/13/2013 3:33:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:50:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:47:13 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:43:21 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:42:20 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:20:36 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:17:51 PM, psychout wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:15:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:10:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)

10 bucks says you took it out when i said that
Tee hee, no. I am just naughty. ;)

Well, I'm all for you being spanked. Ha.
Me too. ;)

did you like overdose on viagra or something? ;)
No. I am just a sexy b1tch. ;)

ok now i am sure you are getting aroused by this conversation

No, but I am horny from listening to tango music. I just have a high sex drive. ;)

ok i think we should just end this conversation
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10/13/2013 3:52:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:10:52 PM, psychout wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:05:35 PM, Khaos_Mage wrote:
At 10/13/2013 12:46:06 PM, psychout wrote:
Society says its wrong. I agree, it does not teach a child why what they did was wrong or how to act in other ways. It is simply a punishment to stop a behavior, when what we should be doing is using discipline and guidance to teach the child that their behavior was wrong and how to learn from that and modify it. Of course, it is also cruel and harmful, and simply teaches to child that physical aggression is okay.

And... how is a time-out any better without guidance?
Why do you assume that their is no guidance where there is spanking?
What do you do if your child is too young to understand words and concepts and consequences, like a two year old touching a hot oven?

I never suggested a time out would be sufficient either. There is limited guidance when it comes to spanking. What you're telling a child when you spank them, is that, no, what you did was wrong, and I have to physically hurt you and make you cry so you understand that. Therefore, being physically aggressive is okay is the only thing that will make you listen. This is untrue.

First of all, a two year old should be constantly looked after, and that situation should be avoided as best as possible. Secondly, children can understand more than you think. You can guide a child without a spanking. If a two year old touches a hot stove, you obviously immediately remove them from the danger. I differentiate from behaviors done unknowingly and behaviors done purposely, because they are completely different in intention and should be therefore treated differently. After they are away from the situation, your face obviously looks worried and/or upset after that event. They understand how that made you feel, because you clearly did not smile or laugh after that behavior. And even if you think they don't understand, you can tell them 'no, we don't touch stoves, they are hot! You could burn yourself!'. Maybe even create a fun activity that can teach them how to differentiate from hot and cold. A behavior like that needs to especially be taught in a loving and meaningful teaching manner.

understanding =/= cognitive abilities

Yes, they know they are in pain, but they don't understand right from wrong, or think in any real capacity regarding consequences (like chasing a ball into the street)

You did not answer my question about why spanking can't be coupled with explanation. Nor did you seem to address my issue in general.

So, let's go with this example:
A toddler breaks a lamp. They know they broke it, however, I doubt they have any understanding as to why it is a big deal (no concept of money, no sentimental understanding, no understanding of concern for safety).
How do you teach a child that an action is wrong, not unsafe, just wrong, like lying?

Besides, how many people spank their children when they are old enough to understand more complex and abstract concepts.

Frankly, I think you are obfuscating the line between physical punishment (spanking) and beating the child. A swat or two and telling them why they are wrong or bad and telling them what to do next time is a far cry from beating the child with a belt for ten minutes.
My work here is, finally, done.
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10/13/2013 4:40:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
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Or lose the race to rats
Get caught in ticking traps
And start to dream of somewhere
To relax their restless flight
Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights..."

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10/13/2013 5:21:38 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 2:50:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:47:13 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:43:21 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:42:20 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:20:36 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:17:51 PM, psychout wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:15:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:10:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)

10 bucks says you took it out when i said that
Tee hee, no. I am just naughty. ;)

Well, I'm all for you being spanked. Ha.
Me too. ;)

did you like overdose on viagra or something? ;)
No. I am just a sexy b1tch. ;)

ok now i am sure you are getting aroused by this conversation

No, but I am horny from listening to tango music. I just have a high sex drive. ;)

LOL, omg, you're bad. 0_o
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10/13/2013 5:22:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 10/13/2013 3:33:44 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:50:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:47:13 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:43:21 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:42:20 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:20:36 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:17:51 PM, psychout wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:15:20 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:10:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 2:03:07 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:57:58 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:56:41 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:53:35 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:52:51 PM, Sitara wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:51:08 PM, cybertron1998 wrote:
At 10/13/2013 1:40:24 PM, Sitara wrote:
I would love to be spanked. ;)

*rolls eyes*

Y'all should have seen that "coming". ;)

dear god....
"Come" on. ;)

20 buck says that one of your hands is in your pants atm
No. You lose. I am just a joker. ;)

10 bucks says you took it out when i said that
Tee hee, no. I am just naughty. ;)

Well, I'm all for you being spanked. Ha.
Me too. ;)

did you like overdose on viagra or something? ;)
No. I am just a sexy b1tch. ;)

ok now i am sure you are getting aroused by this conversation

No, but I am horny from listening to tango music. I just have a high sex drive. ;)

ok i think we should just end this conversation

You realise that if any adult actually does say that they are turned on by what you say its enough for them to be arrest, right? You shouldn't play games like that. I'd personally straight away report anyone to CEOP who said they were turned on by a 15 year old.