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MatBrennon
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3/14/2014 6:56:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Prostitution being illegal HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH STDS. A lady of the trade is satisfied with the money she'll make out of the business transaction.You don't have to hold it for an hour, you don't have to kiss her and exchange fluids with her, heck you don't even have to go further than a hand job. You wear your prophylactic (double if you want), 15 minutes wham "bam", here's your money thank you ma'am.

1) You will never have to cheat on your wife, since no relationship would be established (the lady cares for your money, and the money of many others like you), no sex other than virtual through the condom and without any contact of mucous membranes ( I meant tongue and lips what else did you think I meant, take your mind of the gutter ), no liaisons and affairs; you got married young and without your hearts content of different sexual partners of your dreams. No problem, pay, pick and choose and get it out of your system a few times and focus the rest of your life to your children and good wife. No divorces, no heartaches no issues. You may only go as far as you choose to go; having a conversation with the lady, having a drink, a massage, OR a "hand job," and sex, YOUR CHOICE.

2) What, you never had the woman of your dreams, don't do the crime, work at the near buy retail store ( even if you could afford the car payments and the insurance you still have to pay $6000 in taxes to finance big corporations and only $36 for social programs - but I'm digressing ); save a weeks wages and feel fine, once a month. Better than wasting your life in prison because you know you will not be young forever, and seeing the others living the high life by taking advantage of your hard work and at your expense (yours and of a great percentage of the populace), you get depressed and disappointed.

3) LEAVE THE CHILDREN ALONE PERV, find a woman of the trade who is 18 instead, and get over with it, is better than prison and registering as a sex offender. You have uncontrollable sexual impulses, go to a lady of the trade but take it easy BECAUSE NOW SHE CAN CALL THE COPS ON YOU.

Just consider the comments of those who are against prostitution. All their arguments are self centered, self-interest oriented.

They are about big business making more money (you gotta buy that diamond, the big house, you gotta get that better job work hard to have that lady of your dreams --- most of you will die with the dream).

The pastor of a church wanting to acquire more members ( you don't need sex, you need church - well going to church is better than psychedelic drugs but we shouldn't have to be deprived our freedom to be depressed in order to need to attend church - isn't freedom our God given right? ).

The soccer mom with the insecurities ( you rather have an unhappy, stressed and depressed husband who yes he loves you but wants a bit of change once in a while? Do you rather him find another woman by means of opportunity and being tempted by her as a result of his quest for someone different, would you rather lose him and have your household falling apart? Wouldn't you rather him boost his manhood a few times in a lifetime with the professional of his choice (his sex-service girl) -- for a few minutes of virtual, condom only sex, as opposed to him having an opportunistic and dangerous affair -- and get out of his system and focus on his family for the rest of his more mature years (after all you are and could always be his queen)?

Those who worry that their daughters are going to be prostitutes,guess what the will be if they so choose, the legal type whether you like it or not. They can make porn movies, exchange sex not for money but for grades, career, a more affluent husband, a lady has got to have her power right sisters?

Who cares for the poor soul who works for 7 bucks an hour and has to save money to buy the computer and afford the internet to muster-debate and salivate. Let him work till the day he dies, prey over his sinful thoughts at best, or loose control and commit a crime and get locked in prison or loose his mind completely end up in the crazy house.

All you righteous hypocrites. It is more noble to be a prostitute, after all it is a positive contribution, a necessary service to society. What is your contribution hypocrites, to the well being of society? Supposedly you care for us not catching stds, but you do not allow us to have a 15 minute protected sex with a professional, who would be examined every two weeks, and with whom their would be no actual fluid-exchange kind of dangerous sex with another complete stranger, but a virtual through a prophylactic; not prolonged and therefore of higher chances to pass or contract an std. Heck the lady would be happy with $100- $200. We are there to satisfy ourselves not her, no reason to hold it and make a job out of it (that effort goes for the girlfriend or the wife).

You hypocrites care for our health, but you do not care that we die every day, little by little from stress, depression and frustration. You make slaves out of the citizens by means of hard labor in order for us to attain the unattainable.You make us prisoners by means of restricting our freedom of choice on how to live our lives.Yet you do not hesitate to feed us GMOS,CAT SCANS US,CHEMO US, and drive us to extremes by using women as bait, having them decorated and sparingly dressed on commercials and billboards, you allow women to sell themselves by means of their provocative fashion to keep us hypnotized, and willing to follow your instructions to work hard and spend our money. You drug us, drive the weak among us to the edge, you hospitalize us, institutionalize us, imprison and kill us, yet you care for us not catching stds (only to increase our chances of catching stds by having sex with the non - professional who wants sex not money and unprotected - since you cannot place a prophylactic everywhere; or even from an unregulated prostitute who shares needles and with whom some of us especially the younger would resolve in their endeavors to finally be sexually satisfied.The poorest among us could may only get a chance or too in their lifetime, they don't have the luxury to pick and choose the healthiest and cleanliest let alone the most sexually and sensually appealing among the female populace.

Isn't after all the sex drive that has always moved humans to action?Deprive the ability of a man to acquire female companionship, and you have deprived him of his power and have acquired yourself a willing and hard working slave.

Prostitution will never be legal in America as it stands, and the aforementioned are the true reasons.

...But what about the victims of accidents and our veterans who lost limbs, should we expect them to seek partners with missing limbs too, or must-er-ba-te with their feet?! The law could at least make provisions for them. But all you who are against the legalization of the sex trade, attempt to present yourselves as righteous, yet you are simply selfish hypocrites; or lacking the insight or intelligence required to make a well grounded decision. You cannot see through the thick fog of propaganda due to your compromised by your pot smoking habit cognitive ability, and inability to use whatever is left of your incapacitated brain cells.

...And what about the thousands of abortions, orphans and children of divorced parents? Certainly legalizing prostitution would bring the number down through the years TEN-FOLD.You lying hypocrites, talking about ethics and principles and morality.You've reached the age of sexual inability, or body degeneration and mental stagnation, or lack of interest and you envy the youth,and want to be respected and attempt to appear as having high standards of what you perceive as morality, you want to present yourselves as principled citizens and want to pass your idea of morality and make it the law, and deprive us of the few things that could be still available and af
MatBrennon
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3/14/2014 7:03:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
You lying hypocrites, talking about ethics and principles and morality.You've reached the age of sexual inability, or body degeneration and mental stagnation, or lack of interest and you envy the youth,and want to be respected and attempt to appear as having high standards of what you perceive as morality, you want to present yourselves as principled citizens and want to pass your idea of morality and make it the law, and deprive us of the few things that could be still available and affordable in our lives.

If prostitution was to proliferate stds, the pharmaceutical companies would be the first to sponsor it. After all they are Soooo caring for the populace that they charge $2000 a month for a daily dose of retro-viral pills, maybe it is the other way around! The profits from psychedelic medication (for depression and a score of other fabricated mental health conditions), alone would be sliced if "prostitution (what a derogatory term)" was legal! Hey why would people get depressed and buy a gun and shoot it out of their system in the shooting range, or commit crimes, if they would have it covered for a hundred bucks with the lady of their fantasies at the corner of the street?! They would double condom it, shave or spray themselves with anti-crab medication need be ( we could catch flees and Hep C in the hair or nail salon, or the expensive massage spa by the way ), what they would not have to do is kiss in the mouth, or put their mouths in the wrong places, 'cause their money would be enough to keep the lady happy. Talking about practicing safe sex, both the "John (another derogatory term to facilitate by means of subconscious manipulation of the naive) and the professional would be adults and know how to do keep themselves safe. In any case butt out off what we do with our bodies, our money and our time; and STOP litigating our character and principles. IT IS OUR YOUNG YEARS AND OUR LIFE! You had yours, and after not being able to change your society, after your bodies degenerated, and your minds became stagnant, you endeavor to argue the point down; in order to appear principled (those self-centered or naive to say the least among you who swallow the propaganda or the hypocrites who proliferate it in order to appear as principled and respected members of society ); or drown us in the propaganda to continue making profits by drying us of our youth, squeezing us like lemons, distilling us like olives, squashing us like grapes, grinding us like seed, till we have nothing left and are dead and discarded in the graveyard (those who can afford the luxury, others will have to be cremated ). ENOUGH! LEAVE US THE HECK ALONE TO ENJOY WHAT WE CAN, AND WHAT IS LEFT OF OUR LIVES!

Some statistics : The past 20 years the population of imprisoned Americans has increased 800%. The US is the highest country in the world, in divorces, population in prison, assault and homicide, and sex crimes IN THE WORLD INCLUDING ALL OTHER COUNTRIES.

But hey, if you get sexual frustrated you need to buy guns and shoot it out of your system in the shooting galleries, since porn is not good enough after all porn IS NOTHING BUT A GLASSY WORLD. Those who know know, and yet ignorance could be a bliss.
MatBrennon
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3/14/2014 8:05:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Why could we not edit our posts since we have to fit everything within a confining frame?
Or the title even.
CaptainLucid
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3/17/2014 1:09:52 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Damn it sounds like you could have really used a prostitute before posting. Or save money with your hand. No shame in that, everyone does it. While I agree with the idea prostitution should be legal like in Nevada posting 3 times in a row and your arguments running all over suggest time for a chill pill and a good wank. Great thing about the internet is plenty of free porn without having to look hard.
MatBrennon
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6/14/2015 2:46:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
It's a funny thing you wrote that Brit, because I was about to refer to all the wrongs of this great AMERICAN society of ours (hint I referred to dollars not pounds or euros), but then I realized that I could not edit my posts afterwards so I said the heck with it. I guess by your logic if I was to speak about irradiated or genetically engineered food, you would think I have a thing for spices, or I crave for salmon ( referring to the genetically engineered salmon available for consumption).
You right though I was a little aggravated back then when I wrote in favor of legalizing the service. What used to upset me to the highest degree was hypocrisy and selfishness. Yet it is IGNORANCE or STUPIDITY the true root of all evil which allow for hypocrisy and selfishness to prevail. For if all people were smart enough they would see behind hypocrisy, would expose it and would not allow for selfishness to deprive them of their rights and privileges. Stupidity can nullify by its very nature the best of arguments. Heck, to paraphrase Cervantes, "Not even Aristotle" could argue with a stupid person, "even if he was raised from the grave, just for the purpose."
I appreciate your honesty in identifying yourself as a "wanker." Also thanks for the suggestion about internet porn. For some of us there is nothing better than the real deal. To that end I came to the conclusion that is better that prostitution is illegal in America, because otherwise the strip clubs would be filled with prostitutes who everybody would be able to pick and choose from and get in bed with. Whereas now, our strip clubs employee college girls who try to pay the skyrocketing tuition, or single moms who work to make ends meet ( there are professionals too but to each their own). So while you still get a woman of your choice, she is quite often the real deal (student or soccer mom mostly American quite often from abroad from all over the world, depending on location - WE GOT EVERY MANS DREAM GIRL ), who you get to befriend with no strings attached, and the rest I leave to your imagination. Heck she already did spent sometime with you on the couch, SHE GOT AN IDEA WHAT YOU ARE ALL ABOUT -and vice versa, who needs the inexpensive sexual encounters with their conspicuous and dangerous sometimes outcomes or the very expensive ones ( due to the illegalization of the commodity) which would be equivalent to a few months rent or require a cross country or a trip abroad. If everybody can afford it, or knows how to get to, there is no flirting involved and everybody can do it. Now you still get to pick, anytime you please, real women of YOUR CHOICE no pros from the sidewalk or the parlor, no strings attached, no laws broken, EVERYBODYS HAPPY. There has to be a balance in this case like in every other one is all I'm saying. CONTROL IT DON'T ILLEGALIZE IT.
On the other hand if I did not want to be selfish, I would think that not everybody is as gifted and good with women as I consider myself to be, or simply the poor fellow may be missing a limp, or has a hump, a small pecker or returned from the war injured or traumatized or cannot afford to by a beer let alone date. I don't want that fellow frustrated for the betterment of society, my own safety and especially the safety of those who I care for.
The American society the jungle that it may seem to be sometimes, it has its advantages. You just got to know how to play the game. Cheers mate! And enjoy your internet adventures.
I would continue to argue points on this web site if it was not a waste of time JUST LIKE VOTING LITTERALLY IS, for as long as greasing and lobbying the politicians does not become illegal, and does not constitute a felony. Literally we may as well let chickens vote instead of one third of the voters.
JMcKinley
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6/15/2015 7:24:16 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I agree that prostitution should be legal. But our similarities end there I believe. I don't think that much of what you said is a great argument for it, although to be honest after the first bit I just skimmed so maybe I missed the part where you were being rational.

For me its simple. Two consenting adults want to make a transaction of goods for services that is perfectly within their rights to do for free. But the second money is involved it becomes illegal. How does monetizing an activity make it wrong, when doing it for free is perfectly fine?

Yes there are major problems with prostitution in its current illicit form, the largest of which is the coercion and abuse of the women. But coercion and abuse of anybody is wrong under any circumstances, not just prostitution. Legalizing the trade will allow us to bring the power of law back into the equation to protect the women (and men) involved.

In a legal setting, the women could perform their job in the safety of a sanctioned brothel where their health and safety is the #1 priority just like a regular workplace. Mandatory prophylactics and STD screening would protect the workers and the customers, and the tax revenue could be put to use fighting crimes that are actually hurting people, and not wasted on bossing around consenting adults.
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6/15/2015 3:11:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I heard somewhere that after entering the business a prostitute does on average only live about 7 years.
Oh, and by the way, I am a young person who is opposed to prostitution, so the "old people can't have sex and they want to look all moral so they oppose prostitution even though they'd have sex with prostitutes if they were still young those hypocrites" argument is just plain laughable.
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6/15/2015 5:42:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 7:24:16 AM, JMcKinley wrote:
I agree that prostitution should be legal. But our similarities end there I believe. I don't think that much of what you said is a great argument for it, although to be honest after the first bit I just skimmed so maybe I missed the part where you were being rational.

For me its simple. Two consenting adults want to make a transaction of goods for services that is perfectly within their rights to do for free. But the second money is involved it becomes illegal. How does monetizing an activity make it wrong, when doing it for free is perfectly fine?

Yes there are major problems with prostitution in its current illicit form, the largest of which is the coercion and abuse of the women. But coercion and abuse of anybody is wrong under any circumstances, not just prostitution. Legalizing the trade will allow us to bring the power of law back into the equation to protect the women (and men) involved.

In a legal setting, the women could perform their job in the safety of a sanctioned brothel where their health and safety is the #1 priority just like a regular workplace. Mandatory prophylactics and STD screening would protect the workers and the customers, and the tax revenue could be put to use fighting crimes that are actually hurting people, and not wasted on bossing around consenting adults.

It's already legal. It's called marriage and divorce.
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6/17/2015 4:48:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/15/2015 3:11:04 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I heard somewhere that after entering the business a prostitute does on average only live about 7 years.
Oh, and by the way, I am a young person who is opposed to prostitution, so the "old people can't have sex and they want to look all moral so they oppose prostitution even though they'd have sex with prostitutes if they were still young those hypocrites" argument is just plain laughable.

I'd like to see some actual data on this claim that prostitutes only live for 7 years, it sounds like BS. Also there is a difference between an upscale prostitute and a crack whore...... My guess is it's the crack addict that's only lives for 7 years and it's probably the drugs not the sex that kills them.
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6/17/2015 5:09:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/17/2015 4:48:21 PM, jkerr3 wrote:
At 6/15/2015 3:11:04 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I heard somewhere that after entering the business a prostitute does on average only live about 7 years.
Oh, and by the way, I am a young person who is opposed to prostitution, so the "old people can't have sex and they want to look all moral so they oppose prostitution even though they'd have sex with prostitutes if they were still young those hypocrites" argument is just plain laughable.

I'd like to see some actual data on this claim that prostitutes only live for 7 years, it sounds like BS. Also there is a difference between an upscale prostitute and a crack whore...... My guess is it's the crack addict that's only lives for 7 years and it's probably the drugs not the sex that kills them.

Well, they probably would contract a deadly STD sometime in the first year.
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6/17/2015 5:12:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/17/2015 5:09:21 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/17/2015 4:48:21 PM, jkerr3 wrote:
At 6/15/2015 3:11:04 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I heard somewhere that after entering the business a prostitute does on average only live about 7 years.
Oh, and by the way, I am a young person who is opposed to prostitution, so the "old people can't have sex and they want to look all moral so they oppose prostitution even though they'd have sex with prostitutes if they were still young those hypocrites" argument is just plain laughable.

I'd like to see some actual data on this claim that prostitutes only live for 7 years, it sounds like BS. Also there is a difference between an upscale prostitute and a crack whore...... My guess is it's the crack addict that's only lives for 7 years and it's probably the drugs not the sex that kills them.

Well, they probably would contract a deadly STD sometime in the first year.

Unless of course they use consume.....
Look if someone what's to be a filthy rag and have unprotected sex with tune of people then They should have the right to do so. Who are you to tell them they can't? It's a free country, people need to stop trying to micromanage society.
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6/17/2015 5:16:18 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/17/2015 5:12:35 PM, jkerr3 wrote:
At 6/17/2015 5:09:21 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/17/2015 4:48:21 PM, jkerr3 wrote:
At 6/15/2015 3:11:04 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I heard somewhere that after entering the business a prostitute does on average only live about 7 years.
Oh, and by the way, I am a young person who is opposed to prostitution, so the "old people can't have sex and they want to look all moral so they oppose prostitution even though they'd have sex with prostitutes if they were still young those hypocrites" argument is just plain laughable.

I'd like to see some actual data on this claim that prostitutes only live for 7 years, it sounds like BS. Also there is a difference between an upscale prostitute and a crack whore...... My guess is it's the crack addict that's only lives for 7 years and it's probably the drugs not the sex that kills them.

Well, they probably would contract a deadly STD sometime in the first year.

Unless of course they use consume.....

It seems to me that even the use of "protective gear" would be ultimately futile when you're having sex with hundreds of people every year.

Look if someone what's to be a filthy rag and have unprotected sex with tune of people then They should have the right to do so. Who are you to tell them they can't? It's a free country, people need to stop trying to micromanage society.

That's basically the Libertarian position; there's also the other position, which is "Screw freedom; this is what's best for you and this is what you're gonna do."
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6/17/2015 5:19:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I started on the original OP but didn't finish.
the ONLY reason for prostitution is "Hush Money". People pay hookers not to tell... husbands/wives, associates, family, god and the "thought police" about sexually proclivities, fantasies and infidelities
It might be shocking to learn that Both sexes enjoy face distorting, body convulsing, and mind blowing F#CK!?!....
.... Oh My?!?
If you can't get it going regardless of your beauty, intelligence or bank account in the information age.....
.....Well
.....Well You should see somebody
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6/17/2015 5:33:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 6/17/2015 5:16:18 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/17/2015 5:12:35 PM, jkerr3 wrote:
At 6/17/2015 5:09:21 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 6/17/2015 4:48:21 PM, jkerr3 wrote:
At 6/15/2015 3:11:04 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
I heard somewhere that after entering the business a prostitute does on average only live about 7 years.
Oh, and by the way, I am a young person who is opposed to prostitution, so the "old people can't have sex and they want to look all moral so they oppose prostitution even though they'd have sex with prostitutes if they were still young those hypocrites" argument is just plain laughable.

I'd like to see some actual data on this claim that prostitutes only live for 7 years, it sounds like BS. Also there is a difference between an upscale prostitute and a crack whore...... My guess is it's the crack addict that's only lives for 7 years and it's probably the drugs not the sex that kills them.

Well, they probably would contract a deadly STD sometime in the first year.

Unless of course they use consume.....

It seems to me that even the use of "protective gear" would be ultimately futile when you're having sex with hundreds of people every year.

it doesn't matter how many people you have sex with if you wear a condom every time ur not getting an STD. However I suppose if u perform oral sex "in which case most people don't wear condoms" then that's a different story.

That's basically the Libertarian position; there's also the other position, which is "Screw freedom; this is what's best for you and this is what you're gonna do."
What's the root word of libertarian? It's Libirty, the basic concept that our country was founded upon, it's not the libertarian point of view on things it's the American point of view.