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2/1/2015 4:01:54 AM
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Imagine America with the official state religion of technology worship. Every citizen was required by law to value and practice science, and each year, the bottom 0.1% of the State intelligence ranking was quietly sterilized. Social policies are very progressive, and everyone is an atheist.

How would the society work out?
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intellectuallyprimitive
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2/2/2015 12:55:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/1/2015 4:01:54 AM, Smithereens wrote:
Imagine America with the official state religion of technology worship. Every citizen was required by law to value and practice science, and each year, the bottom 0.1% of the State intelligence ranking was quietly sterilized. Social policies are very progressive, and everyone is an atheist.

How would the society work out?

Required by law to value science? How would law enforcement officials enforce citizens to value science?
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2/2/2015 10:33:59 AM
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"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL
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2/2/2015 10:57:32 AM
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At 2/1/2015 4:01:54 AM, Smithereens wrote:
Imagine America with the official state religion of technology worship. Every citizen was required by law to value and practice science, and each year, the bottom 0.1% of the State intelligence ranking was quietly sterilized. Social policies are very progressive, and everyone is an atheist.

How would the society work out?

When you say "technology worship", what does that mean? Your idea actually doesn't sound to bad but I'm wondering why you porposal it as a religion. If it is religion in name only I'd be down. I'd love a society that main focus was science and learning.
Smithereens
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2/3/2015 2:58:23 AM
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At 2/2/2015 12:55:01 AM, intellectuallyprimitive wrote:
At 2/1/2015 4:01:54 AM, Smithereens wrote:
Imagine America with the official state religion of technology worship. Every citizen was required by law to value and practice science, and each year, the bottom 0.1% of the State intelligence ranking was quietly sterilized. Social policies are very progressive, and everyone is an atheist.

How would the society work out?

Required by law to value science? How would law enforcement officials enforce citizens to value science?
By prioritising its practice. People caught praying instead of using medicine would be punished for example. It's more a culture.
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2/3/2015 3:00:31 AM
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At 2/2/2015 10:57:32 AM, Df0512 wrote:
At 2/1/2015 4:01:54 AM, Smithereens wrote:
Imagine America with the official state religion of technology worship. Every citizen was required by law to value and practice science, and each year, the bottom 0.1% of the State intelligence ranking was quietly sterilized. Social policies are very progressive, and everyone is an atheist.

How would the society work out?

When you say "technology worship", what does that mean? Your idea actually doesn't sound to bad but I'm wondering why you porposal it as a religion. If it is religion in name only I'd be down. I'd love a society that main focus was science and learning.

I propose it as a religion to remove the freedom aspect of it. You are not free to do anything that opposes the interests of science and learning.
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2/3/2015 12:03:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/3/2015 3:00:31 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 2/2/2015 10:57:32 AM, Df0512 wrote:
At 2/1/2015 4:01:54 AM, Smithereens wrote:
Imagine America with the official state religion of technology worship. Every citizen was required by law to value and practice science, and each year, the bottom 0.1% of the State intelligence ranking was quietly sterilized. Social policies are very progressive, and everyone is an atheist.

How would the society work out?

When you say "technology worship", what does that mean? Your idea actually doesn't sound to bad but I'm wondering why you porposal it as a religion. If it is religion in name only I'd be down. I'd love a society that main focus was science and learning.

I propose it as a religion to remove the freedom aspect of it. You are not free to do anything that opposes the interests of science and learning.

OH...that doesn't sound good. But in the intersets, it still doesn't sound to bad
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2/3/2015 12:06:35 PM
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2/3/2015 1:32:41 PM
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At 2/1/2015 4:01:54 AM, Smithereens wrote:
Imagine America with the official state religion of technology worship. Every citizen was required by law to value and practice science, and each year, the bottom 0.1% of the State intelligence ranking was quietly sterilized. Social policies are very progressive, and everyone is an atheist.

How would the society work out?

I don't want Earth to become Warhammer 40k, but I must admit being part of the Mechanicus would be pretty cool.

Sterilization does nothing for average intelligence. Most twin studies have concluded that intelligence is affected by nurture (environment growing up) rather than nature (genetics.) So I wouldn't be on board for that part.

"Practice" science? As in, methodically use the scientific method for everything? It wouldn't always be applicable. Even if a large portion of Americans were to become skilled scientists, the actual growth of technology would be relatively slow.

Everyone being mandated to be an Atheist would be incredibly boring, and nobody would agree to it.
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2/3/2015 2:17:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/3/2015 12:06:35 PM, thett3 wrote:
Beavers would develop sentience, ride ostriches, and rival human as the dominant race in a world where atheism is held by all. If you don't get the reference, you aren't worth talking to

Oh, you're one of those Allied Alliance folks, eh?
I get your reference, you as a League man, you aren't worth talking to.
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2/3/2015 2:17:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/1/2015 4:01:54 AM, Smithereens wrote:
Imagine America with the official state religion of technology worship. Every citizen was required by law to value and practice science, and each year, the bottom 0.1% of the State intelligence ranking was quietly sterilized. Social policies are very progressive, and everyone is an atheist.

How would the society work out?

Not very good. It sounds like a utopia, which means that the people who came up with it probably have no ideas how real governments function and change over time. I would guess a brutal collapse into Machiavelli's cycle.
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Skepsikyma
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2/3/2015 2:19:00 PM
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At 2/3/2015 2:17:33 PM, KhaosMage wrote:
At 2/3/2015 12:06:35 PM, thett3 wrote:
Beavers would develop sentience, ride ostriches, and rival human as the dominant race in a world where atheism is held by all. If you don't get the reference, you aren't worth talking to

Oh, you're one of those Allied Alliance folks, eh?
I get your reference, you as a League man, you aren't worth talking to.
"See now Oblivion shimmering all around us, its very tranquility deadlier than tempest. How little all our keels have troubled it."
- Lord Dunsany -

"Over her head the stars, the thoughts of God in the heavens,
Shone on the eyes of man, who had ceased to marvel and worship"
- Henry Longfellow -

"We enjoy, we see nothing by direct vision; but only by reflection, and in anatomical dismemberment."
- Thomas Carlyle -
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2/3/2015 2:22:42 PM
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At 2/3/2015 2:19:00 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
At 2/3/2015 2:17:33 PM, KhaosMage wrote:
At 2/3/2015 12:06:35 PM, thett3 wrote:
Beavers would develop sentience, ride ostriches, and rival human as the dominant race in a world where atheism is held by all. If you don't get the reference, you aren't worth talking to

Oh, you're one of those Allied Alliance folks, eh?
I get your reference, you as a League man, you aren't worth talking to.



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2/4/2015 4:08:18 PM
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At 2/1/2015 4:01:54 AM, Smithereens wrote:
Imagine America with the official state religion of technology worship. Every citizen was required by law to value and practice science, and each year, the bottom 0.1% of the State intelligence ranking was quietly sterilized. Social policies are very progressive, and everyone is an atheist.

How would the society work out?

You just made me cum in my pants.