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Why is chivalry considered sexist?

Rubikx
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2/17/2015 5:35:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I've seen it a lot lately. Holding are door open for a girl, complimenting them, paying for a meal, stuff like that is considered weird, old fashioned and even sexist in some cases. I don't see why its considered rude to treat a girl nicely. I think the biggest is jobs. When women get angry because the men believe it is their responsibility to earn the money and provide for the family. Can someone explain how being polite became sexist? I've heard a quote (i'm not sure from where or by who) "Chivalry is dead, because the feminists killed them." What do you think?
The_Fool_on_the_hill
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2/17/2015 5:58:46 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 2/17/2015 5:35:41 PM, Rubikx wrote:
Rubikx : I've seen it a lot lately. Holding are door open for a girl, complimenting them, paying for a meal, stuff like that is considered weird, old fashioned and even sexist in some cases. I don't see why its considered rude to treat a girl nicely. I think the biggest is jobs. When women get angry because the men believe it is their responsibility to earn the money and provide for the family. Can someone explain how being polite became sexist? I've heard a quote (i'm not sure from where or by who) "Chivalry is dead, because the feminists killed them." What do you think?

The Fool: You're trying to make sense of feminism. It's not consistent with itself. Some feminist use chivalry as a shaming point, that is, with the presupposition that man ought be chivalrous and of course offer nothing in return on the part of women. While others say, that, should reach is another way of oppressing women, because it's treating them like they're incapable of doing things themselves.

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"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL
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2/17/2015 6:00:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
*The Fool: While others say that "chivalry" is another way of oppressing women, because it's treating them like they're incapable of doing things themselves.

@ Crazies "should reach" sounds like "chivalry "
"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL
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2/17/2015 6:08:26 PM
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The Fool: Oh another feminist argument, is that chivalry is insincere, and that they are not doing it to be nice, but because they think they're better than women.

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In other words, what they do is take things that we do that are nice and noble, and try to demonize them as though there simply for selfish reasons. Things like, we're more likely to sacrifice ourselves that is our lives, for women, because we want to hog all the glory to ourselves. This is necessary, if they want to sell a narrative that men are generally evil and women are generally neutral and/or good, as to generate more sympathy for their cause.

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"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL
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2/17/2015 6:16:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
From the MRA side!
The Fool: A common MRA and/or MGTOW argument in regards to chivalry, is that it is a problem insofar as we are considering equality for both genders, to be treated the very same, that is, equally and then still have the man do special favors particularly regards to chivalry for women, because it puts men in a subservient position, in respect to women, making them less than equal. That is, chivalry is harmful to men in a society in which we are treating both genders equally.

For example, in America woman a entering into the job field from University now make more than men do. Yet society generally still expect men to pay for most things. And women find it more attractive, and a less attracted to guys that don't.. Days like Valentine's Days the average man spends about $190, while the woman spends an average of 90 "..

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So yes feminism has killed chivalry.
"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL
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2/17/2015 6:17:20 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
190 DOLLARS, while the woman spends an average of 90 CENTS...
"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL
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2/17/2015 6:57:24 PM
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$190.53 DOLLARS, while the woman spends an average of $96.58 DOLLARS...

My Bad,
"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL
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2/17/2015 7:05:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
This does of course includes, women buying gifts for their pets and women buying gifts for pets, and buying flowers for themselves.

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"The bud disappears when the blossom breaks through, and we might say that the former is refuted by the latter; in the same way when the fruit comes, the blossom may be explained to be a false form of the plant's existence, for the fruit appears as its true nature in place of the blossom. These stages are not merely differentiated; they supplant one another as being incompatible with one another." G. W. F. HEGEL
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5/13/2015 10:41:57 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
most women say they want equality, until it's time to pay the bill
chivalry was an honor code for warriors, since women and children weren't warriors then they were protected
if you are insist on paying the bill, then you are effectively paying for their time
why do you have such a low self-value that their time is worth more than yours?

if you are paying for their time, then you are dating a hooker/ escort
if that is the best you can get, then it's good to know your limits
however wouldn't it be better for you to find someone that is your equal?