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LaughItUpLydia
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3/3/2015 10:19:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
What is the purpose of personal life without knowing the origin of life?

Debate.

Side note: I couldn't choose between science, religion, and society. Don't judge me. ;)
intellectuallyprimitive
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3/4/2015 1:19:46 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
I can certainly state that I assign value to my life, hence giving me my own purpose or motivation to excel in life. Does the origin of life affect my personal life? No.
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3/4/2015 2:14:22 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/3/2015 10:19:34 PM, LaughItUpLydia wrote:
What is the purpose of personal life without knowing the origin of life?

Debate.

Side note: I couldn't choose between science, religion, and society. Don't judge me. ;)

We have such a poor definition of life that it's hard to pinpoint the origin of life. New research totally questions the definition we currently have. So to ask what is the purpose is meaningless if we can't even define it. Been discussing this in the science forum and here are some interesting articles to add to the discussion.

http://www.newscientist.com...
---metabolism without cells

http://www.sciencealert.com...
---life without DNA

http://news.discovery.com...
http://now.tufts.edu...
----viruses may be considered alive

Perhaps the first question is then what constitutes life?

If we can't even really define life how can we discover it's origin let alone suppose a purpose?
LaughItUpLydia
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3/5/2015 9:55:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/4/2015 2:14:22 AM, Sosoconfused wrote:
At 3/3/2015 10:19:34 PM, LaughItUpLydia wrote:
What is the purpose of personal life without knowing the origin of life?

Debate.

Side note: I couldn't choose between science, religion, and society. Don't judge me. ;)

We have such a poor definition of life that it's hard to pinpoint the origin of life. New research totally questions the definition we currently have. So to ask what is the purpose is meaningless if we can't even define it. Been discussing this in the science forum and here are some interesting articles to add to the discussion.

http://www.newscientist.com...
---metabolism without cells

http://www.sciencealert.com...
---life without DNA

http://news.discovery.com...
http://now.tufts.edu...
----viruses may be considered alive

Perhaps the first question is then what constitutes life?

If we can't even really define life how can we discover it's origin let alone suppose a purpose?

True. Although, I think we should attempt defining "life."

We can start by believing that "life" is existence on the only known planet in the universe that can carry "life," and that every being on this earth that is breathing, whether animal or human, is a form of "life," and that man kind is the only form of "life" that has the ability to comprehend the meaning or origin of "life." Agreed?

Now, if we did know what the origin of life is, would it affect our personal lives? I believe it would, especially affecting the types of lives (like mine) who are constantly thinking about the purpose of a unique yet tiny human on a planet hidden in the middle of an incomprehensively large universe(s).

So is there a reason to live if we do not know why we are here?
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3/5/2015 9:59:27 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/4/2015 1:19:46 AM, intellectuallyprimitive wrote:
I can certainly state that I assign value to my life, hence giving me my own purpose or motivation to excel in life. Does the origin of life affect my personal life? No.

Do you know why you are on planet earth? In other words, does knowledge of why human beings are even on this planet affect how you live every day purposefully?
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3/7/2015 11:10:00 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/5/2015 9:55:10 AM, LaughItUpLydia wrote:
At 3/4/2015 2:14:22 AM, Sosoconfused wrote:
At 3/3/2015 10:19:34 PM, LaughItUpLydia wrote:
What is the purpose of personal life without knowing the origin of life?

Debate.

Side note: I couldn't choose between science, religion, and society. Don't judge me. ;)

We have such a poor definition of life that it's hard to pinpoint the origin of life. New research totally questions the definition we currently have. So to ask what is the purpose is meaningless if we can't even define it. Been discussing this in the science forum and here are some interesting articles to add to the discussion.

http://www.newscientist.com...
---metabolism without cells

http://www.sciencealert.com...
---life without DNA

http://news.discovery.com...
http://now.tufts.edu...
----viruses may be considered alive

Perhaps the first question is then what constitutes life?

If we can't even really define life how can we discover it's origin let alone suppose a purpose?

True. Although, I think we should attempt defining "life."

We can start by believing that "life" is existence on the only known planet in the universe that can carry "life," and that every being on this earth that is breathing, whether animal or human, is a form of "life," and that man kind is the only form of "life" that has the ability to comprehend the meaning or origin of "life." Agreed?

We may not be the only planted that can support life. We may actually have life in our solar system. Some of the moons in the outer solar system are suspected to have life. I also disagree that life is defined by respiration. Many anaerobic organisms exist.

I would agree that mankind is the only animal we know of that can contemplate the "purpose" of life. I do however disagree with this question however. It presupposes that there is a purpose. Perhaps the question isn't what the purpose is, but rather whether or not there even is a purpose. The origin of life is a scientific inquiry and we're getting closer and closer to understanding this question and I believe (of course I have no proof if this) we will have a fairly good answer to the question within my life time (I'm 30).


Now, if we did know what the origin of life is, would it affect our personal lives? I believe it would, especially affecting the types of lives (like mine) who are constantly thinking about the purpose of a unique yet tiny human on a planet hidden in the middle of an incomprehensively large universe(s).

I agree that it will make for some interesting philosophical debates. However, I would argue that we should first answer the question "is there a purpose?" rather than "what is the purpose?"


So is there a reason to live if we do not know why we are here?

Perhaps purpose is subjective rather than objective. Purpose is then left to the individual.
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3/7/2015 5:19:53 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/5/2015 9:59:27 AM, LaughItUpLydia wrote:
At 3/4/2015 1:19:46 AM, intellectuallyprimitive wrote:
I can certainly state that I assign value to my life, hence giving me my own purpose or motivation to excel in life. Does the origin of life affect my personal life? No.

Do you know why you are on planet earth? In other words, does knowledge of why human beings are even on this planet affect how you live every day purposefully?

There are reasons to suggest that our existence on this planet is to number one survive, and two procreate. These seem like functions to me rather than purposes, but I don't want to discuss semantics. This does not affect me at all, because I understand that biological life ceases to function eventually, which gives me motivation to utilize this life to the best of my ability.
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3/8/2015 5:39:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/7/2015 11:10:00 AM, Sosoconfused wrote:
At 3/5/2015 9:55:10 AM, LaughItUpLydia wrote:
At 3/4/2015 2:14:22 AM, Sosoconfused wrote:
At 3/3/2015 10:19:34 PM, LaughItUpLydia wrote:
What is the purpose of personal life without knowing the origin of life?

Debate.

Side note: I couldn't choose between science, religion, and society. Don't judge me. ;)

We have such a poor definition of life that it's hard to pinpoint the origin of life. New research totally questions the definition we currently have. So to ask what is the purpose is meaningless if we can't even define it. Been discussing this in the science forum and here are some interesting articles to add to the discussion.

http://www.newscientist.com...
---metabolism without cells

http://www.sciencealert.com...
---life without DNA

http://news.discovery.com...
http://now.tufts.edu...
----viruses may be considered alive

Perhaps the first question is then what constitutes life?

If we can't even really define life how can we discover it's origin let alone suppose a purpose?

True. Although, I think we should attempt defining "life."

We can start by believing that "life" is existence on the only known planet in the universe that can carry "life," and that every being on this earth that is breathing, whether animal or human, is a form of "life," and that man kind is the only form of "life" that has the ability to comprehend the meaning or origin of "life." Agreed?

We may not be the only planted that can support life. We may actually have life in our solar system. Some of the moons in the outer solar system are suspected to have life. I also disagree that life is defined by respiration. Many anaerobic organisms exist.

Your right that there is a chance there is life on other planets. We still do not know how many planets there are or the amount of galaxies in our system. But until we find out, there are no other planets besides earth that are capable of containing life in existence. Anaerobic organisms may use fermentation or anaerobic respiration.

I would agree that mankind is the only animal we know of that can contemplate the "purpose" of life. I do however disagree with this question however. It presupposes that there is a purpose. Perhaps the question isn't what the purpose is, but rather whether or not there even is a purpose. The origin of life is a scientific inquiry and we're getting closer and closer to understanding this question and I believe (of course I have no proof if this) we will have a fairly good answer to the question within my life time (I'm 30).

Do we, humans, question why we exist/live? Why are we the only creatures who question that and where did our ability to do that come from? Because we want to know answers, we seek to figure the origin of life which links to us wanting to know our purpose in life. We want to be smart and think of ourselves as smart so we seek answers for why we are here. But since (scientifically) we do not have those answers to the origin of life, does the question of 'why we are here' affect our everyday lives and thinking process?

Since you shared what you believe about the evolving science which is/may be growing closer to getting the answer of the origin of life, I will share what I believe about it. I think there is a Higher Deity, specifically the God of the Holy Bible, and that He created all matter/anti matter and every living thing. My reasoning for that is I believe something cannot come from any form of nothing. I also believe that He created in us a purpose, and we can find that out by studying His Word and praying. You could call this Creationism, but it's more than that. I believe it's the answer to most every question about life that we have. Go ahead, bomb me with questions. xD

Back to answering your paragraph. What if the answers don't come during your life time? What if you die without knowing right after you live your every day thinking you'll know someday?


Now, if we did know what the origin of life is, would it affect our personal lives? I believe it would, especially affecting the types of lives (like mine) who are constantly thinking about the purpose of a unique yet tiny human on a planet hidden in the middle of an incomprehensively large universe(s).

I agree that it will make for some interesting philosophical debates. However, I would argue that we should first answer the question "is there a purpose?" rather than "what is the purpose?"

Tell me what you think of my above response of how we can already figure that there is/must be a purpose.


So is there a reason to live if we do not know why we are here?

Perhaps purpose is subjective rather than objective. Purpose is then left to the individual.

Each of us individuals are part of the greatest and most important species: humankind. Where we came from is still unknown, history is a mystery since we were not there, and the closest we've come to answers are some theory. I believe purpose is not ONLY for the individual because it ties in with inquiry of the origin of life.
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3/8/2015 6:09:13 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/7/2015 5:19:53 PM, intellectuallyprimitive wrote:
At 3/5/2015 9:59:27 AM, LaughItUpLydia wrote:
At 3/4/2015 1:19:46 AM, intellectuallyprimitive wrote:
I can certainly state that I assign value to my life, hence giving me my own purpose or motivation to excel in life. Does the origin of life affect my personal life? No.

Do you know why you are on planet earth? In other words, does knowledge of why human beings are even on this planet affect how you live every day purposefully?

There are reasons to suggest that our existence on this planet is to number one survive, and two procreate. These seem like functions to me rather than purposes, but I don't want to discuss semantics. This does not affect me at all, because I understand that biological life ceases to function eventually, which gives me motivation to utilize this life to the best of my ability.

Is not the origin of life semantics? Assuming that you agree we are not animals and that the difference between humans and animals is our ability to comprehend existence and topics like the one here, let's say that we aren't close to knowing any legit answers for the origin of life. If you do not know why our "species" (humankind) is here, and we don't have a clue besides certain hypothesizes why humans are the only living creatures able to think about life, do you have a reason to live?