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7/17/2010 3:33:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Why are clothes required? And why are there double standards? Girls tend to not be allowed to walk around topless, cause that's illegal, but guys can.

Why do you have to wear clothes? I don't think clothes should be forced. I think people should be allowed to wear as much or as little as they want and even no clothes at all.

I've been pretty curious on this subject for years and got kicked out of church for asking it. Well really I said clothes weren't neccisary, especially when its really hot outside and they do more harm then good. The youth group teacher just said "You need clothes to live" I asked why and he basically said (only in church appropriate terms) "Are you serious? GTFO!"

So, I really want to know some actual truth to this. If you want to be completely covered, your choice, if you want no covering, why is that not a choice? The more something becomes a taboo, the more people try and seek it.
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7/17/2010 3:50:04 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 3:34:53 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
There tends to be alot of double standards. Women can walk around dressed like sluts yet things like the burqa are banned.

I think every one should have the right to where whatever they want, or nothing at all.
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7/17/2010 3:50:45 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 3:36:57 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Clothes are required?

This is new information for me. I should put some on.

If your in public. You can be thrown in jail for indecent exposure
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7/17/2010 3:51:20 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 3:50:04 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:34:53 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
There tends to be alot of double standards. Women can walk around dressed like sluts yet things like the burqa are banned.

I think every one should have the right to where whatever they want, or nothing at all.

Exactly. If they're going to ban burqas then maybe they should ban slutty clothes as well. Why the double standards? ;)
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7/17/2010 3:53:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 3:33:22 PM, lovelife wrote:
Why are clothes required? And why are there double standards? Girls tend to not be allowed to walk around topless, cause that's illegal, but guys can.

Why do you have to wear clothes? I don't think clothes should be forced. I think people should be allowed to wear as much or as little as they want and even no clothes at all.

I've been pretty curious on this subject for years and got kicked out of church for asking it. Well really I said clothes weren't neccisary, especially when its really hot outside and they do more harm then good. The youth group teacher just said "You need clothes to live" I asked why and he basically said (only in church appropriate terms) "Are you serious? GTFO!"

So, I really want to know some actual truth to this. If you want to be completely covered, your choice, if you want no covering, why is that not a choice? The more something becomes a taboo, the more people try and seek it.

How about we all just keep our junk covered!
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7/17/2010 3:54:20 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 3:51:20 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Exactly. If they're going to ban burqas then maybe they should ban slutty clothes as well. Why the double standards? ;)

... lame lol.
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7/17/2010 3:58:16 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 3:54:20 PM, theLwerd wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:51:20 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Exactly. If they're going to ban burqas then maybe they should ban slutty clothes as well. Why the double standards? ;)

... lame lol.

Nah, I'm just pointing out the obvious double standards.
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7/17/2010 4:32:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 3:51:20 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:50:04 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:34:53 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
There tends to be alot of double standards. Women can walk around dressed like sluts yet things like the burqa are banned.

I think every one should have the right to where whatever they want, or nothing at all.

Exactly. If they're going to ban burqas then maybe they should ban slutty clothes as well. Why the double standards? ;)

because slutty clothes aren't a symbol of religious repression, nor do they conceal your identity and thus carry a risk of bank robbery etc. not that i think the burqa should be banned but to compare it to banning slutty clothes is to miss the reasoning behind the banning in the first place.
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7/17/2010 4:39:08 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 3:33:22 PM, lovelife wrote:
Why are clothes required? And why are there double standards? Girls tend to not be allowed to walk around topless, cause that's illegal, but guys can.

Girlz haz the b00bz. if a girl is topless, I get aroused. But women don't to the same extent with men, are at least not visibly.


Why do you have to wear clothes? I don't think clothes should be forced. I think people should be allowed to wear as much or as little as they want and even no clothes at all.

Public decency. I know a lot of thing are offensive or whatever, but me and multiple men walking with my shlong out tops the list. it's a shared embarrassment if you see a naked person.


So, I really want to know some actual truth to this. If you want to be completely covered, your choice, if you want no covering, why is that not a choice? The more something becomes a taboo, the more people try and seek it.

Fail, fail fail. Murder is tabboo. Ergo, legalise it.
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7/17/2010 4:52:34 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 4:32:47 PM, belle wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:51:20 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:50:04 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:34:53 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
There tends to be alot of double standards. Women can walk around dressed like sluts yet things like the burqa are banned.

I think every one should have the right to where whatever they want, or nothing at all.

Exactly. If they're going to ban burqas then maybe they should ban slutty clothes as well. Why the double standards? ;)

because slutty clothes aren't a symbol of religious repression, nor do they conceal your identity and thus carry a risk of bank robbery etc. not that i think the burqa should be banned but to compare it to banning slutty clothes is to miss the reasoning behind the banning in the first place.

Furthermore, no one is threatening slutty women with violence to wear slutty clothes.
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7/17/2010 5:06:52 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I'm aware of the burqa thing, and I think that should be legal along with the right to wear nothing.

Killing actually harms people, restricting how much you wear doesn't.

Not all Muslims wear a burqa, its a personal choice. I'm pretty sure INH has said she doesn't wear one.
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7/17/2010 5:09:34 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 4:39:08 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:33:22 PM, lovelife wrote:
Why are clothes required? And why are there double standards? Girls tend to not be allowed to walk around topless, cause that's illegal, but guys can.

Girlz haz the b00bz. if a girl is topless, I get aroused. But women don't to the same extent with men, are at least not visibly.


Some do, and really guys have boobs too, just not as big, most of the time.


Why do you have to wear clothes? I don't think clothes should be forced. I think people should be allowed to wear as much or as little as they want and even no clothes at all.

Public decency. I know a lot of thing are offensive or whatever, but me and multiple men walking with my shlong out tops the list. it's a shared embarrassment if you see a naked person.


Why is it publicly indecent? And not if it becomes a social norm. My aunt has a strict noo clothes policy in her house, but had to change it when mom had my bros cause it offended mom, because of the social norms.


So, I really want to know some actual truth to this. If you want to be completely covered, your choice, if you want no covering, why is that not a choice? The more something becomes a taboo, the more people try and seek it.

Fail, fail fail. Murder is tabboo. Ergo, legalise it.

I actually adressed this, but didn't remember the rest of your post, again, murder harms people, not wearing clothes, or wearing a burqa causes no harm.
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7/17/2010 5:09:53 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 4:52:34 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 7/17/2010 4:32:47 PM, belle wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:51:20 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:50:04 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:34:53 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
There tends to be alot of double standards. Women can walk around dressed like sluts yet things like the burqa are banned.

I think every one should have the right to where whatever they want, or nothing at all.

Exactly. If they're going to ban burqas then maybe they should ban slutty clothes as well. Why the double standards? ;)

because slutty clothes aren't a symbol of religious repression, nor do they conceal your identity and thus carry a risk of bank robbery etc. not that i think the burqa should be banned but to compare it to banning slutty clothes is to miss the reasoning behind the banning in the first place.

Furthermore, no one is threatening slutty women with violence to wear slutty clothes.

Are you sure?
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7/17/2010 5:11:06 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 4:52:34 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 7/17/2010 4:32:47 PM, belle wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:51:20 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:50:04 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:34:53 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
There tends to be alot of double standards. Women can walk around dressed like sluts yet things like the burqa are banned.

I think every one should have the right to where whatever they want, or nothing at all.

Exactly. If they're going to ban burqas then maybe they should ban slutty clothes as well. Why the double standards? ;)

because slutty clothes aren't a symbol of religious repression, nor do they conceal your identity and thus carry a risk of bank robbery etc. not that i think the burqa should be banned but to compare it to banning slutty clothes is to miss the reasoning behind the banning in the first place.

Furthermore, no one is threatening slutty women with violence to wear slutty clothes.

Pimps threaten prostitutes.
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7/17/2010 5:11:57 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 5:06:52 PM, lovelife wrote:
I'm aware of the burqa thing, and I think that should be legal along with the right to wear nothing.

Killing actually harms people, restricting how much you wear doesn't.

Not all Muslims wear a burqa, its a personal choice. I'm pretty sure INH has said she doesn't wear one.

Wearing a burqa is usually a personal choice. It's a small minority of women who are actually forced to wear it.
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7/17/2010 5:17:35 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 5:09:53 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/17/2010 4:52:34 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 7/17/2010 4:32:47 PM, belle wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:51:20 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:50:04 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:34:53 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
There tends to be alot of double standards. Women can walk around dressed like sluts yet things like the burqa are banned.

I think every one should have the right to where whatever they want, or nothing at all.

Exactly. If they're going to ban burqas then maybe they should ban slutty clothes as well. Why the double standards? ;)

because slutty clothes aren't a symbol of religious repression, nor do they conceal your identity and thus carry a risk of bank robbery etc. not that i think the burqa should be banned but to compare it to banning slutty clothes is to miss the reasoning behind the banning in the first place.

Furthermore, no one is threatening slutty women with violence to wear slutty clothes.

Are you sure?

Ummm... maybe in a rape situation, I guess... but that's a personal, individual thing.

Killing women who do not wear burqas is a big social thing.
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7/17/2010 5:18:28 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 5:11:57 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 5:06:52 PM, lovelife wrote:
I'm aware of the burqa thing, and I think that should be legal along with the right to wear nothing.

Killing actually harms people, restricting how much you wear doesn't.

Not all Muslims wear a burqa, its a personal choice. I'm pretty sure INH has said she doesn't wear one.

Wearing a burqa is usually a personal choice.

That's true in the United States. Not so true in some places in the middle East.
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7/17/2010 5:19:48 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 5:18:28 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 7/17/2010 5:11:57 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 5:06:52 PM, lovelife wrote:
I'm aware of the burqa thing, and I think that should be legal along with the right to wear nothing.

Killing actually harms people, restricting how much you wear doesn't.

Not all Muslims wear a burqa, its a personal choice. I'm pretty sure INH has said she doesn't wear one.

Wearing a burqa is usually a personal choice.

That's true in the United States. Not so true in some places in the middle East.

I was referring to Europe where they apparently think it's ok to ban clothing.
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7/17/2010 5:20:04 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 5:11:06 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 4:52:34 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 7/17/2010 4:32:47 PM, belle wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:51:20 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:50:04 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:34:53 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
There tends to be alot of double standards. Women can walk around dressed like sluts yet things like the burqa are banned.

I think every one should have the right to where whatever they want, or nothing at all.

Exactly. If they're going to ban burqas then maybe they should ban slutty clothes as well. Why the double standards? ;)

because slutty clothes aren't a symbol of religious repression, nor do they conceal your identity and thus carry a risk of bank robbery etc. not that i think the burqa should be banned but to compare it to banning slutty clothes is to miss the reasoning behind the banning in the first place.

Furthermore, no one is threatening slutty women with violence to wear slutty clothes.

Pimps threaten prostitutes.

Legalisation stops that.
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7/17/2010 5:23:13 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 5:11:06 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 4:52:34 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 7/17/2010 4:32:47 PM, belle wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:51:20 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:50:04 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:34:53 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
There tends to be alot of double standards. Women can walk around dressed like sluts yet things like the burqa are banned.

I think every one should have the right to where whatever they want, or nothing at all.

Exactly. If they're going to ban burqas then maybe they should ban slutty clothes as well. Why the double standards? ;)

because slutty clothes aren't a symbol of religious repression, nor do they conceal your identity and thus carry a risk of bank robbery etc. not that i think the burqa should be banned but to compare it to banning slutty clothes is to miss the reasoning behind the banning in the first place.

Furthermore, no one is threatening slutty women with violence to wear slutty clothes.

Pimps threaten prostitutes.

not to wear slutty clothes though. maybe something along the lines of "give me the money b*tch". but the cases aren't parallel enough for you to say "well why don't they ban slutty clothes. ". people don't want to ban burqas just because they don't like them, or because they make them uncomfortable.
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7/17/2010 5:38:32 PM
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At 7/17/2010 5:19:48 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 5:18:28 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 7/17/2010 5:11:57 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 5:06:52 PM, lovelife wrote:
I'm aware of the burqa thing, and I think that should be legal along with the right to wear nothing.

Killing actually harms people, restricting how much you wear doesn't.

Not all Muslims wear a burqa, its a personal choice. I'm pretty sure INH has said she doesn't wear one.

Wearing a burqa is usually a personal choice.

That's true in the United States. Not so true in some places in the middle East.

I was referring to Europe where they apparently think it's ok to ban clothing.

It's called "domestic violence."

Not that that's any excuse for such an assault on liberty, but the possibility is there.
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7/17/2010 6:02:01 PM
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At 7/17/2010 5:20:04 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/17/2010 5:11:06 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 4:52:34 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 7/17/2010 4:32:47 PM, belle wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:51:20 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:50:04 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/17/2010 3:34:53 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
There tends to be alot of double standards. Women can walk around dressed like sluts yet things like the burqa are banned.

I think every one should have the right to where whatever they want, or nothing at all.

Exactly. If they're going to ban burqas then maybe they should ban slutty clothes as well. Why the double standards? ;)

because slutty clothes aren't a symbol of religious repression, nor do they conceal your identity and thus carry a risk of bank robbery etc. not that i think the burqa should be banned but to compare it to banning slutty clothes is to miss the reasoning behind the banning in the first place.

Furthermore, no one is threatening slutty women with violence to wear slutty clothes.

Pimps threaten prostitutes.

Legalisation stops that.

It truely does which is why I'm pro prostitution rights
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7/17/2010 7:54:30 PM
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The simple reason we were clothes as a matter of law is because since the Fall or the Roman Empire the laws were based primarily in Judeo-Christianic dogma and doctrine, that still pervades to this day although unfortunately morality seems to be less and less a concern of those in our society today
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7/17/2010 7:59:07 PM
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At 7/17/2010 7:54:30 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
The simple reason we were clothes as a matter of law is because since the Fall or the Roman Empire the laws were based primarily in Judeo-Christianic dogma and doctrine, that still pervades to this day although unfortunately morality seems to be less and less a concern of those in our society today

Morality does seem to be degrading...
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7/17/2010 8:01:54 PM
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At 7/17/2010 7:59:07 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 7:54:30 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
The simple reason we were clothes as a matter of law is because since the Fall or the Roman Empire the laws were based primarily in Judeo-Christianic dogma and doctrine, that still pervades to this day although unfortunately morality seems to be less and less a concern of those in our society today

Morality does seem to be degrading...

Ugh, this is ridiculous...

Let me find Freeman's thread...
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7/17/2010 8:03:42 PM
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At 7/17/2010 8:01:54 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 7/17/2010 7:59:07 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 7:54:30 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
The simple reason we were clothes as a matter of law is because since the Fall or the Roman Empire the laws were based primarily in Judeo-Christianic dogma and doctrine, that still pervades to this day although unfortunately morality seems to be less and less a concern of those in our society today

Morality does seem to be degrading...

Ugh, this is ridiculous...

Let me find Freeman's thread...

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7/17/2010 8:06:38 PM
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At 7/17/2010 8:03:42 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:01:54 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 7/17/2010 7:59:07 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 7:54:30 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
The simple reason we were clothes as a matter of law is because since the Fall or the Roman Empire the laws were based primarily in Judeo-Christianic dogma and doctrine, that still pervades to this day although unfortunately morality seems to be less and less a concern of those in our society today

Morality does seem to be degrading...

Ugh, this is ridiculous...

Let me find Freeman's thread...

Edjamacate
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What I mean is not that immoral things are increasing statistically but that they are being more and more accepted in today's society
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7/17/2010 8:08:26 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 8:06:38 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:03:42 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 7/17/2010 8:01:54 PM, FREEDO wrote:
At 7/17/2010 7:59:07 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/17/2010 7:54:30 PM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
The simple reason we were clothes as a matter of law is because since the Fall or the Roman Empire the laws were based primarily in Judeo-Christianic dogma and doctrine, that still pervades to this day although unfortunately morality seems to be less and less a concern of those in our society today

Morality does seem to be degrading...

Ugh, this is ridiculous...

Let me find Freeman's thread...

Edjamacate
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What I mean is not that immoral things are increasing statistically but that they are being more and more accepted in today's society

So you agree that they are decreasing, yet say they are becoming more accepted? fail
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