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lovelife
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7/18/2010 11:19:31 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Why is it illegal? All it really is is having sex with money exchange, why is that illegal?
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7/18/2010 11:28:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/18/2010 11:19:31 PM, lovelife wrote:
Why is it illegal? All it really is is having sex with money exchange, why is that illegal?

It was made illegal near the end of the progressive era I think...which was in the early 20th century. People protested saying stuff like "It ruins the family life" and "Hookers are disease machines" and though most politicians sought to regulate prostitution, they eventually abolished it.

At this day and age, I would think prostitution is safer when regulated.
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7/18/2010 11:32:21 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/18/2010 11:19:31 PM, lovelife wrote:
Why is it illegal? All it really is is having sex with money exchange, why is that illegal?

because god is obsessed with what you do with your genitals.
evidently i only come to ddo to avoid doing homework...
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7/18/2010 11:33:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/18/2010 11:28:59 PM, Sobriquet wrote:
At 7/18/2010 11:19:31 PM, lovelife wrote:
Why is it illegal? All it really is is having sex with money exchange, why is that illegal?

It was made illegal near the end of the progressive era I think...which was in the early 20th century. People protested saying stuff like "It ruins the family life" and "Hookers are disease machines" and though most politicians sought to regulate prostitution, they eventually abolished it.


*facepalm at the stupid people in the country*

At this day and age, I would think prostitution is safer when regulated.

Yes, I also think that regulations would be alot better then making it illegal.
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7/18/2010 11:33:29 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/18/2010 11:32:21 PM, belle wrote:
At 7/18/2010 11:19:31 PM, lovelife wrote:
Why is it illegal? All it really is is having sex with money exchange, why is that illegal?

because god is obsessed with what you do with your genitals.

God is a pervert.
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7/18/2010 11:35:17 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/18/2010 11:32:21 PM, belle wrote:
At 7/18/2010 11:19:31 PM, lovelife wrote:
Why is it illegal? All it really is is having sex with money exchange, why is that illegal?

because god is obsessed with what you do with your genitals.

This is probably a better explanation than mine.
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7/18/2010 11:55:12 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Decriminalize it. Screw regulations. Let the people dumb enough to inadvertently ruin their bodies do so. The government exists to protect your right to life - not to play the role of the parent by shielding you from any threat to your existence, health, or happiness in which you, of your own volition, decide to engage.
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7/18/2010 11:56:44 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
The Christian majority feels it has a right to make its morality the law.
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7/18/2010 11:58:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/18/2010 11:55:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
Decriminalize it. Screw regulations. Let the people dumb enough to inadvertently ruin their bodies do so. The government exists to protect your right to life - not to play the role of the parent by shielding you from any threat to your existence, health, or happiness in which you, of your own volition, decide to engage.

Pretty much my veiw. Except I do think they should have regulations and weekly health inspections.
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7/19/2010 12:07:08 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/18/2010 11:58:10 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/18/2010 11:55:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
Decriminalize it. Screw regulations. Let the people dumb enough to inadvertently ruin their bodies do so. The government exists to protect your right to life - not to play the role of the parent by shielding you from any threat to your existence, health, or happiness in which you, of your own volition, decide to engage.

Pretty much my veiw. Except I do think they should have regulations and weekly health inspections.

If that's the case, then what I said isn't "pretty much your view", because every word apart from "Decriminalize it" deals with why we shouldn't have regulations.
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7/19/2010 12:14:13 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/19/2010 12:07:08 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 7/18/2010 11:58:10 PM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/18/2010 11:55:12 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
Decriminalize it. Screw regulations. Let the people dumb enough to inadvertently ruin their bodies do so. The government exists to protect your right to life - not to play the role of the parent by shielding you from any threat to your existence, health, or happiness in which you, of your own volition, decide to engage.

Pretty much my veiw. Except I do think they should have regulations and weekly health inspections.

If that's the case, then what I said isn't "pretty much your view", because every word apart from "Decriminalize it" deals with why we shouldn't have regulations.

"Let the people dumb enough to inadvertently ruin their bodies do so. The government exists to protect your right to life - not to play the role of the parent by shielding you from any threat to your existence, health, or happiness in which you, of your own volition, decide to engage."

Thats what I agree with. People have a right to live their life however they want, even if it ruins it.
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7/19/2010 12:18:01 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
In much of Europe prostitution is not illegal.

In Britain it is not illegal, but running a brothel or living off the earnings of a prostitute is.
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7/19/2010 12:20:53 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/19/2010 12:18:01 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
In much of Europe prostitution is not illegal.

In Britain it is not illegal, but running a brothel or living off the earnings of a prostitute is.

I like Europe more than America in many ways.

Is that like a pimp?
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comoncents
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7/19/2010 12:31:29 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/18/2010 11:19:31 PM, lovelife wrote:
Why is it illegal? All it really is is having sex with money exchange, why is that illegal?

Yep. Dumb, I know.
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7/19/2010 12:36:00 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/19/2010 12:33:09 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Part of it could be about concern over STD's.

One of the Italian Queens actually established brothels to reduce the spread of STD's. That was when they only had obvious physical inspection, no blood or urine tests.
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7/19/2010 12:36:12 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/19/2010 12:33:09 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
Part of it could be about concern over STD's.

If its regulated and mandatory testing is done, then thats not a huge concern. Legalizing it, would do that. Plus people choose whether or not to be prostitutes, and people choose whether or not to seek their services. Free choice=freedom of consequence.
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7/19/2010 12:46:24 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/19/2010 12:18:01 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
In much of Europe prostitution is not illegal.

In Britain it is not illegal, but running a brothel or living off the earnings of a prostitute is.

I get confused, especially as British police now give advice on tax and discretion to new brothels, then have to raid them several months later when enough complaints build up!
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/19/2010 12:47:51 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/19/2010 12:46:24 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/19/2010 12:18:01 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
In much of Europe prostitution is not illegal.

In Britain it is not illegal, but running a brothel or living off the earnings of a prostitute is.

I get confused, especially as British police now give advice on tax and discretion to new brothels, then have to raid them several months later when enough complaints build up!

Lmao, are you serious?
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7/19/2010 1:24:32 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
There's a lot of feminist material written on the sex market, so really any credible ethical opposition would be from that area (and also the best defenses of prostitution would be as well, I find).
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7/19/2010 1:24:42 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/19/2010 12:47:51 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/19/2010 12:46:24 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/19/2010 12:18:01 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
In much of Europe prostitution is not illegal.

In Britain it is not illegal, but running a brothel or living off the earnings of a prostitute is.

I get confused, especially as British police now give advice on tax and discretion to new brothels, then have to raid them several months later when enough complaints build up!

Lmao, are you serious?

I am not sure if it's normal practice but that is what happened in one incident recently.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/19/2010 1:26:13 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/19/2010 12:49:38 AM, badger wrote:
yeah that's crazy. would that not fall under entrapment?

Not as such, as it was local complaints that the police were acting on. However I am not even sure we have rules against entrapment anymore.
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7/19/2010 1:26:30 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/19/2010 1:24:42 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/19/2010 12:47:51 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/19/2010 12:46:24 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/19/2010 12:18:01 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
In much of Europe prostitution is not illegal.

In Britain it is not illegal, but running a brothel or living off the earnings of a prostitute is.

I get confused, especially as British police now give advice on tax and discretion to new brothels, then have to raid them several months later when enough complaints build up!

Lmao, are you serious?

I am not sure if it's normal practice but that is what happened in one incident recently.

did they let you finish?
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7/19/2010 1:28:34 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/19/2010 1:26:30 AM, badger wrote:
At 7/19/2010 1:24:42 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/19/2010 12:47:51 AM, lovelife wrote:
At 7/19/2010 12:46:24 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/19/2010 12:18:01 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
In much of Europe prostitution is not illegal.

In Britain it is not illegal, but running a brothel or living off the earnings of a prostitute is.

I get confused, especially as British police now give advice on tax and discretion to new brothels, then have to raid them several months later when enough complaints build up!

Lmao, are you serious?

I am not sure if it's normal practice but that is what happened in one incident recently.

did they let you finish?

Heheh... nice one.
I am voting for Innomen because of his intelligence, common sense, humility and the fact that Juggle appears to listen to him. Any other Presidential style would have a large sub-section of the site up in arms. If I was President I would destroy the site though elitism, others would let it run riot. Innomen represents a middle way that works, neither draconian nor anarchic and that is the only way things can work. Plus he does it all without ego trips.
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7/19/2010 2:04:30 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/19/2010 12:46:24 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/19/2010 12:18:01 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
In much of Europe prostitution is not illegal.

In Britain it is not illegal, but running a brothel or living off the earnings of a prostitute is.

I get confused, especially as British police now give advice on tax and discretion to new brothels, then have to raid them several months later when enough complaints build up!

Not brothels insofar as they call themselves brothels, but in practice brothels nonetheless.

They operate under the guise of being "Massage Parlours" or "Table or Lap Dancing clubs".

And yes, the working girls are expected to pay tax on their income.

Just as girls who go "on the batter" freestyle also pay taxes on their earnings.

By so doing they ensure they keep National Insurance payments up to date so securing their pension rights, but they also avoid being prosecuted for non-payment of taxes which can and sometimes does happen when tax "snoopers" get enough evidence to show they are getting an undeclared earned income.
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7/19/2010 2:17:50 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/19/2010 2:04:30 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
At 7/19/2010 12:46:24 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 7/19/2010 12:18:01 AM, Zeitgeist wrote:
In much of Europe prostitution is not illegal.

In Britain it is not illegal, but running a brothel or living off the earnings of a prostitute is.

I get confused, especially as British police now give advice on tax and discretion to new brothels, then have to raid them several months later when enough complaints build up!

Not brothels insofar as they call themselves brothels, but in practice brothels nonetheless.

They operate under the guise of being "Massage Parlours" or "Table or Lap Dancing clubs".

And yes, the working girls are expected to pay tax on their income.

Just as girls who go "on the batter" freestyle also pay taxes on their earnings.

By so doing they ensure they keep National Insurance payments up to date so securing their pension rights, but they also avoid being prosecuted for non-payment of taxes which can and sometimes does happen when tax "snoopers" get enough evidence to show they are getting an undeclared earned income.

Don't you live in Brundall, Norfolk?

I've been to the Brooms boatyard there (very good river and coastal cruisers, by the way, with the unusual feature of an aft cabin for those who are interested) but I didn't realise there were massage parlours and strip clubs there!

Perhaps they are located upstairs at The Yare pub?
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7/19/2010 6:02:48 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/18/2010 11:19:31 PM, lovelife wrote:
Why is it illegal? All it really is is having sex with money exchange, why is that illegal?:

It's an old moral law that has been grandfathered in. There are social mores attached to it. Society has been taught to look at it as salacious and squalid.
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