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Gustav_Adolf_II
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3/19/2015 9:55:17 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Just a forum to discuss the consequences and ethics of making child sex robots for pedophiles. Some people think it would reduce the risk of children getting molested by pedophiles who couldn't control their 'urges', while others believe it would only increase the risk of children getting molested.

And if a child sex robot were to be created, from the interest of a programmer, what would the AI be like?
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3/19/2015 1:38:45 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
If I was certainly attracted to younger girls or boys, a robot would only suffice for perhaps the first month or two, and eventually would even enhance my urges to seek the real thing.
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3/19/2015 1:45:01 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/19/2015 1:38:45 PM, intellectuallyprimitive wrote:
If I was certainly attracted to younger girls or boys, a robot would only suffice for perhaps the first month or two, and eventually would even enhance my urges to seek the real thing.

My first thought as well. Plus, if the android was a convincing replica, there would probably be negative consequences in terms of how children are viewed, simply because the associations between 'animate body of a human child' and concepts like innocence, protection, human rights, bodily autonomy, would be necessarily diminished on a neural level with exposure to such androids that are used in those ways.
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3/19/2015 2:16:50 PM
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At 3/19/2015 9:55:17 AM, Gustav_Adolf_II wrote:
Just a forum to discuss the consequences and ethics of making child sex robots for pedophiles. Some people think it would reduce the risk of children getting molested by pedophiles who couldn't control their 'urges', while others believe it would only increase the risk of children getting molested.

And if a child sex robot were to be created, from the interest of a programmer, what would the AI be like?

Pedophiles will demand more and more realistic robots. Eventually, they will not be able to tell the difference between real children and robots. As a result, the robots steal our children and replace them with robots. And that's how the human race nearly ended.

Then the pedophiles started realizing that all the "real" children didn't "feel" quite right, and they saved the day. The human race was so happy that we survived the robot apocalypse that today (2080) we offer every second child we have to the pedophiles in tribute, to honor their valiant and heroic efforts to save the world.

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3/20/2015 9:08:10 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I'm wondering if people using the logic that porn and prostitution reduce sex crimes will support this too. It would seem that they are hypocritical if they do not.
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3/20/2015 9:22:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/19/2015 1:38:45 PM, intellectuallyprimitive wrote:
If I was certainly attracted to younger girls or boys, a robot would only suffice for perhaps the first month or two, and eventually would even enhance my urges to seek the real thing.

You seem to be assuming that all pedophiles are wild sex addicts who can't control themselves around children. They thought the same thing about gay people in the 1970s.
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3/20/2015 9:23:47 PM
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In my opinion, "child hentai" (seeing as no actual child is exploited), is a more realistic option.
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3/21/2015 9:18:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/20/2015 9:23:47 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
In my opinion, "child hentai" (seeing as no actual child is exploited), is a more realistic option.

But the 'children' would be robots, so how would either [child sex robots or "child hentai"] exploit children? No actual child would have to take part in sexual activities.
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3/21/2015 9:32:00 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/21/2015 9:18:41 PM, Gustav_Adolf_II wrote:
At 3/20/2015 9:23:47 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
In my opinion, "child hentai" (seeing as no actual child is exploited), is a more realistic option.

But the 'children' would be robots, so how would either [child sex robots or "child hentai"] exploit children? No actual child would have to take part in sexual activities.

A "sex robot" is not something that's likely to exist anytime in the next 20 years. "Child Hentai" could be made at this very moment, and to some extent it already exists.
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3/21/2015 9:35:27 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/21/2015 9:32:00 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/21/2015 9:18:41 PM, Gustav_Adolf_II wrote:
At 3/20/2015 9:23:47 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
In my opinion, "child hentai" (seeing as no actual child is exploited), is a more realistic option.

But the 'children' would be robots, so how would either [child sex robots or "child hentai"] exploit children? No actual child would have to take part in sexual activities.

A "sex robot" is not something that's likely to exist anytime in the next 20 years. "Child Hentai" could be made at this very moment, and to some extent it already exists.

How does that lead to the exploitation of children?
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3/21/2015 9:44:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/21/2015 9:35:27 PM, Gustav_Adolf_II wrote:
At 3/21/2015 9:32:00 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/21/2015 9:18:41 PM, Gustav_Adolf_II wrote:
At 3/20/2015 9:23:47 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
In my opinion, "child hentai" (seeing as no actual child is exploited), is a more realistic option.

But the 'children' would be robots, so how would either [child sex robots or "child hentai"] exploit children? No actual child would have to take part in sexual activities.

A "sex robot" is not something that's likely to exist anytime in the next 20 years. "Child Hentai" could be made at this very moment, and to some extent it already exists.

How does that lead to the exploitation of children?

I was simply stating that the Hentai is a more realistic option because it doesn't involve something which hasn't been invented yet and likely won't be invented for several decades.
One must take into account how extremely difficult it would be to get a robot to act in a way which accurately reflects behavior during sex.
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3/21/2015 10:03:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/21/2015 9:44:11 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/21/2015 9:35:27 PM, Gustav_Adolf_II wrote:
At 3/21/2015 9:32:00 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/21/2015 9:18:41 PM, Gustav_Adolf_II wrote:
At 3/20/2015 9:23:47 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
In my opinion, "child hentai" (seeing as no actual child is exploited), is a more realistic option.

But the 'children' would be robots, so how would either [child sex robots or "child hentai"] exploit children? No actual child would have to take part in sexual activities.

A "sex robot" is not something that's likely to exist anytime in the next 20 years. "Child Hentai" could be made at this very moment, and to some extent it already exists.

How does that lead to the exploitation of children?

I was simply stating that the Hentai is a more realistic option because it doesn't involve something which hasn't been invented yet and likely won't be invented for several decades.
One must take into account how extremely difficult it would be to get a robot to act in a way which accurately reflects behavior during sex.

But what do you think about the consequences of those materials existing? Do you think it would be beneficial or harmful to society?
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3/21/2015 10:18:30 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/21/2015 10:03:09 PM, Gustav_Adolf_II wrote:
At 3/21/2015 9:44:11 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/21/2015 9:35:27 PM, Gustav_Adolf_II wrote:
At 3/21/2015 9:32:00 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/21/2015 9:18:41 PM, Gustav_Adolf_II wrote:
At 3/20/2015 9:23:47 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
In my opinion, "child hentai" (seeing as no actual child is exploited), is a more realistic option.

But the 'children' would be robots, so how would either [child sex robots or "child hentai"] exploit children? No actual child would have to take part in sexual activities.

A "sex robot" is not something that's likely to exist anytime in the next 20 years. "Child Hentai" could be made at this very moment, and to some extent it already exists.

How does that lead to the exploitation of children?

I was simply stating that the Hentai is a more realistic option because it doesn't involve something which hasn't been invented yet and likely won't be invented for several decades.
One must take into account how extremely difficult it would be to get a robot to act in a way which accurately reflects behavior during sex.

But what do you think about the consequences of those materials existing? Do you think it would be beneficial or harmful to society?

I do believe that endorsing or simply just legalizing this kind of stuff will ultimately end up having negative effects on society, even if such adverse effects are not apparent at the time.
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3/21/2015 11:42:34 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I'm positive Japan already has these things up and running.
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3/22/2015 9:54:05 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/19/2015 9:55:17 AM, Gustav_Adolf_II wrote:
Just a forum to discuss the consequences and ethics of making child sex robots for pedophiles. Some people think it would reduce the risk of children getting molested by pedophiles who couldn't control their 'urges', while others believe it would only increase the risk of children getting molested.

And if a child sex robot were to be created, from the interest of a programmer, what would the AI be like?

it wouldn't work

fvcking a robot sounds incredibly painful

what would these robots even be made of?
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3/22/2015 10:02:08 AM
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At 3/19/2015 9:55:17 AM, Gustav_Adolf_II wrote:
Just a forum to discuss the consequences and ethics of making child sex robots for pedophiles. Some people think it would reduce the risk of children getting molested by pedophiles who couldn't control their 'urges', while others believe it would only increase the risk of children getting molested.

And if a child sex robot were to be created, from the interest of a programmer, what would the AI be like?

I believe it can be a good way to keep some pedophiles from molesting children, also for improving non-molester pedophiles own health. I mean, not every pedophile molests children, and I suppose because of this they can have a nonexistent sexual life that is harmful for themselves. So for this non-molesters pedophile, the robot idea seems great if they can really accept it as a valid substitute of a real kid. About the robot-kid having a well developed IA, I would hope that's not necessary and a fake sentience would suffice. If a real artificial conscience is required, then by no means we could permit it, as imo the robot would be a real child and therefore would deserve the same rights as any other child.
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3/22/2015 7:37:15 PM
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This would be emotional catharsis, and psychologists have shown that while it relieves the emotion temporarily, it stimulates the emotion more strongly in the future. If I want a soda, and I drink one, it doesn't make my desire for soda less overall. It sates me temporarily, and then in the near future my desire increases more than before. If I am angry and take it out on a punching bag as opposed to holding it in, then I will be relieved initially but I will soon be an angrier person on the whole after my urge returns. In the same way, such pedophilic activity would not have the desired outcome you are looking for, it would simply send them into a blood-frenzy like sharks in water around a bleeding animal.
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3/23/2015 5:28:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/20/2015 9:22:21 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
At 3/19/2015 1:38:45 PM, intellectuallyprimitive wrote:
If I was certainly attracted to younger girls or boys, a robot would only suffice for perhaps the first month or two, and eventually would even enhance my urges to seek the real thing.

You seem to be assuming that all pedophiles are wild sex addicts who can't control themselves around children. They thought the same thing about gay people in the 1970s.

I'm surprised you inferred my comment in the fashion that you have. You assumed I was speaking on behalf of pedophiles, which I certainly was not. I stated that if my sexual urges were inclined for that of younger girls, I would find a substitute to be tedious and would eventually enhance my desires to derive sexual gratification from carnal sources.

I was providing my personal perspective of my sexuality. The same would apply if there were a robot as a substitute for women.