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9/7/2010 12:28:14 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
now, i'm not talking about murderers or rapists or that sort, but thiefs, con artists, black market entrepreneurs and... that sort. they're hardly worse than the giant corporation owners, who exploit poor countries and pretty much turn their citizens into slaves... but you'll never see one of them end up in jail. it's cos there's something in it for you isn't it... :P lol, i'm no better.

i didn't, however, really like capitalism up til recently, but it's not that i'd a problem with the dog eat dog road to success like i kinda let on, but with the fat cats who sit at the top having never done a day's work in their lives. that's not really fair is it...

so i was thinking socialism there for a while, but i think if a man's worth 10 men he should reap the rewards of ten men, and i couldn't really fit that into a state owned world. i also realised that my motive wasn't all that sensible and that it's not like we'd ever be able to organise ourselves enough to change anything anyway, short of a monumental government fvck up, so i'm back to capitalism/notreallygivingafuck/anarchism :)

the way i see it, as a capitalist you've to essentially rob someone else to survive, and rob more people to prosper, so how's a criminal any different to you? your means might differ but they're to the same end really.

i'm not saying we should let them go unpunished or anything, just showing you why i think you're no better than them... being a capitalist :) and maybe possibly attempting to justify past and possible future actions... maybe. even though the good times are justification enough either way ;)

of course i might have my facts mixed up so i'll ask in advance that you forgive me for thinking such awful things of your character should that turn out to be the case :)
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9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/7/2010 12:28:50 PM, badger wrote:
most i've ever written i'd say :)

I'd say so.

The thing is, capitalism is fine, provided that the dispossessed are given the chance to join the party.

But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.
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9/7/2010 12:33:17 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/7/2010 12:28:14 PM, badger wrote:
now, i'm not talking about murderers or rapists or that sort, but thiefs, con artists, black market entrepreneurs and... that sort. they're hardly worse than the giant corporation owners, who exploit poor countries and pretty much turn their citizens into slaves... but you'll never see one of them end up in jail. it's cos there's something in it for you isn't it... :P lol, i'm no better.

Thiefs and con artists? No, I have no sympathy for government officials. Black marketeers? I support them wholeheartedly, so long as they don't engage in violence.

i didn't, however, really like capitalism up til recently, but it's not that i'd a problem with the dog eat dog road to success like i kinda let on, but with the fat cats who sit at the top having never done a day's work in their lives. that's not really fair is it...

Do you have any idea how much work it takes to become a CEO?

so i was thinking socialism there for a while, but i think if a man's worth 10 men he should reap the rewards of ten men, and i couldn't really fit that into a state owned world. i also realised that my motive wasn't all that sensible and that it's not like we'd ever be able to organise ourselves enough to change anything anyway, short of a monumental government fvck up, so i'm back to capitalism/notreallygivingafuck/anarchism :)

the way i see it, as a capitalist you've to essentially rob someone else to survive, and rob more people to prosper, so how's a criminal any different to you? your means might differ but they're to the same end really.

How so?
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9/7/2010 12:46:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.

Catholic schools. There is no elevated place for rich people, well, not that much besides the obvious small private system.
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9/7/2010 12:50:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/7/2010 12:28:14 PM, badger wrote:
now, i'm not talking about murderers or rapists or that sort, but thiefs, con artists, black market entrepreneurs and... that sort. they're hardly worse than the giant corporation owners, who exploit poor countries and pretty much turn their citizens into slaves... but you'll never see one of them end up in jail. it's cos there's something in it for you isn't it... :P lol, i'm no better.

Theives, con artists, etc. steal your money, corporate owner pay people abroad in return for their labour. It just happens to be lower than at home. And most sweatshops are seen as positive abroad.


i didn't, however, really like capitalism up til recently, but it's not that i'd a problem with the dog eat dog road to success like i kinda let on, but with the fat cats who sit at the top having never done a day's work in their lives. that's not really fair is it...

Those fat cats are there ebcause they took risks and reap the rewards. How else did you think they got up there?


so i was thinking socialism there for a while, but i think if a man's worth 10 men he should reap the rewards of ten men, and i couldn't really fit that into a state owned world. i also realised that my motive wasn't all that sensible and that it's not like we'd ever be able to organise ourselves enough to change anything anyway, short of a monumental government fvck up, so i'm back to capitalism/notreallygivingafuck/anarchism :)

Ok?


the way i see it, as a capitalist you've to essentially rob someone else to survive, and rob more people to prosper, so how's a criminal any different to you? your means might differ but they're to the same end really.

Capitalism involves people being able top buy and trade without government interference, or at least minimal government interference. No coercion involved at all.
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9/7/2010 12:50:07 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/7/2010 12:46:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.

Catholic schools. There is no elevated place for rich people, well, not that much besides the obvious small private system.

Ah yes, that's right.
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9/7/2010 12:51:34 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:28:50 PM, badger wrote:
most i've ever written i'd say :)

I'd say so.

The thing is, capitalism is fine, provided that the dispossessed are given the chance to join the party.

how'd you mean dispossessed? i'd still be for social security and welfare if that's what you're on about.

But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.

nah, here's great. if you're not from a well off family the government (taxes lol) will pretty much pay your way through college for you. the only reason anyone here would have more opportunities than anyone else would be if they had talent really... or the aul bit of pull :) a lot of people are just brought up wrong i think.
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9/7/2010 12:58:42 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/7/2010 12:33:17 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:28:14 PM, badger wrote:
now, i'm not talking about murderers or rapists or that sort, but thiefs, con artists, black market entrepreneurs and... that sort. they're hardly worse than the giant corporation owners, who exploit poor countries and pretty much turn their citizens into slaves... but you'll never see one of them end up in jail. it's cos there's something in it for you isn't it... :P lol, i'm no better.

Thiefs and con artists? No, I have no sympathy for government officials. Black marketeers? I support them wholeheartedly, so long as they don't engage in violence.

i'll get to this :)

i didn't, however, really like capitalism up til recently, but it's not that i'd a problem with the dog eat dog road to success like i kinda let on, but with the fat cats who sit at the top having never done a day's work in their lives. that's not really fair is it...

Do you have any idea how much work it takes to become a CEO?

who's talking about ceos. i'm talking about inheritance and how wealth pools.

so i was thinking socialism there for a while, but i think if a man's worth 10 men he should reap the rewards of ten men, and i couldn't really fit that into a state owned world. i also realised that my motive wasn't all that sensible and that it's not like we'd ever be able to organise ourselves enough to change anything anyway, short of a monumental government fvck up, so i'm back to capitalism/notreallygivingafuck/anarchism :)

the way i see it, as a capitalist you've to essentially rob someone else to survive, and rob more people to prosper, so how's a criminal any different to you? your means might differ but they're to the same end really.

How so?

well, say you opened a bakery in the middle of your village. you're essentially robbing anyone else of that means of survival, unless they can meet or beat your standards that is. and if you expanded your bakery into a chain of bakeries, you're essentially robbing even more people... so that's how so. you're also funding the giant corporations which go off and exploit people to make your life better :)

so how're you any better than the thief?
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9/7/2010 1:15:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/7/2010 12:46:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.

Catholic schools. There is no elevated place for rich people, well, not that much besides the obvious small private system.

Ah yes, because non-catholics and even non-christians definitely want to send their children to catholic schools. :)
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9/7/2010 1:16:30 PM
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At 9/7/2010 12:50:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:28:14 PM, badger wrote:
now, i'm not talking about murderers or rapists or that sort, but thiefs, con artists, black market entrepreneurs and... that sort. they're hardly worse than the giant corporation owners, who exploit poor countries and pretty much turn their citizens into slaves... but you'll never see one of them end up in jail. it's cos there's something in it for you isn't it... :P lol, i'm no better.

Theives, con artists, etc. steal your money, corporate owner pay people abroad in return for their labour. It just happens to be lower than at home. And most sweatshops are seen as positive abroad.

by truly desperate people i'd imagine. i suppose it's a matter of opinion really, but i prefer mine :P


i didn't, however, really like capitalism up til recently, but it's not that i'd a problem with the dog eat dog road to success like i kinda let on, but with the fat cats who sit at the top having never done a day's work in their lives. that's not really fair is it...

Those fat cats are there ebcause they took risks and reap the rewards. How else did you think they got up there?

pffft, rubbish. i'm not talking about the likes of bill gates.


so i was thinking socialism there for a while, but i think if a man's worth 10 men he should reap the rewards of ten men, and i couldn't really fit that into a state owned world. i also realised that my motive wasn't all that sensible and that it's not like we'd ever be able to organise ourselves enough to change anything anyway, short of a monumental government fvck up, so i'm back to capitalism/notreallygivingafuck/anarchism :)

Ok?

well that's not nice :)

the way i see it, as a capitalist you've to essentially rob someone else to survive, and rob more people to prosper, so how's a criminal any different to you? your means might differ but they're to the same end really.

Capitalism involves people being able top buy and trade without government interference, or at least minimal government interference. No coercion involved at all.

what?
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9/7/2010 1:18:27 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/7/2010 12:46:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.

Catholic schools. There is no elevated place for rich people, well, not that much besides the obvious small private system.

hadn't realised religion had done anything good for us.
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9/7/2010 1:30:58 PM
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At 9/7/2010 1:15:50 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:46:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.

Catholic schools. There is no elevated place for rich people, well, not that much besides the obvious small private system.

Ah yes, because non-catholics and even non-christians definitely want to send their children to catholic schools. :)

Non-Catholics are accepted into those schools, you just have to go the sh*tty annual retreats.
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9/7/2010 1:32:26 PM
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At 9/7/2010 1:16:30 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:50:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:28:14 PM, badger wrote:
now, i'm not talking about murderers or rapists or that sort, but thiefs, con artists, black market entrepreneurs and... that sort. they're hardly worse than the giant corporation owners, who exploit poor countries and pretty much turn their citizens into slaves... but you'll never see one of them end up in jail. it's cos there's something in it for you isn't it... :P lol, i'm no better.

Theives, con artists, etc. steal your money, corporate owner pay people abroad in return for their labour. It just happens to be lower than at home. And most sweatshops are seen as positive abroad.

by truly desperate people i'd imagine. i suppose it's a matter of opinion really, but i prefer mine :P

I prefer mien :D



i didn't, however, really like capitalism up til recently, but it's not that i'd a problem with the dog eat dog road to success like i kinda let on, but with the fat cats who sit at the top having never done a day's work in their lives. that's not really fair is it...

Those fat cats are there ebcause they took risks and reap the rewards. How else did you think they got up there?

pffft, rubbish. i'm not talking about the likes of bill gates.

Then who are you talking about?



so i was thinking socialism there for a while, but i think if a man's worth 10 men he should reap the rewards of ten men, and i couldn't really fit that into a state owned world. i also realised that my motive wasn't all that sensible and that it's not like we'd ever be able to organise ourselves enough to change anything anyway, short of a monumental government fvck up, so i'm back to capitalism/notreallygivingafuck/anarchism :)

Ok?

well that's not nice :)

Whad'ya an I aint' kind? Just not your kind.


the way i see it, as a capitalist you've to essentially rob someone else to survive, and rob more people to prosper, so how's a criminal any different to you? your means might differ but they're to the same end really.

Capitalism involves people being able top buy and trade without government interference, or at least minimal government interference. No coercion involved at all.

what?

There's no coercion in capitalism, that is, no-one is forced into anything without consent.
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9/7/2010 1:33:42 PM
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At 9/7/2010 12:58:42 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:33:17 PM, J.Kenyon wrote:

How so?

well, say you opened a bakery in the middle of your village. you're essentially robbing anyone else of that means of survival, unless they can meet or beat your standards that is. and if you expanded your bakery into a chain of bakeries, you're essentially robbing even more people... so that's how so. you're also funding the giant corporations which go off and exploit people to make your life better :)

What? I set up a bakery with my own funds using wheat and other goods that I have purchased with my money, and refusing someone my bread is robbing them?
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At 9/7/2010 1:16:30 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:50:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:28:14 PM, badger wrote:



so i was thinking socialism there for a while, but i think if a man's worth 10 men he should reap the rewards of ten men, and i couldn't really fit that into a state owned world. i also realised that my motive wasn't all that sensible and that it's not like we'd ever be able to organise ourselves enough to change anything anyway, short of a monumental government fvck up, so i'm back to capitalism/notreallygivingafuck/anarchism :)

Ok?

well that's not nice :)

Whad'ya mean I aint' kind? Just not your kind.
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9/7/2010 1:34:14 PM
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At 9/7/2010 1:30:58 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:15:50 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:46:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.

Catholic schools. There is no elevated place for rich people, well, not that much besides the obvious small private system.

Ah yes, because non-catholics and even non-christians definitely want to send their children to catholic schools. :)

Non-Catholics are accepted into those schools, you just have to go the sh*tty annual retreats.

what are you sh1tting on about? i remember the retreats, but never them being compulsory.
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9/7/2010 1:39:29 PM
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At 9/7/2010 1:30:58 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:15:50 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:46:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.

Catholic schools. There is no elevated place for rich people, well, not that much besides the obvious small private system.

Ah yes, because non-catholics and even non-christians definitely want to send their children to catholic schools. :)

Non-Catholics are accepted into those schools, you just have to go the sh*tty annual retreats.

what are you sh1tting on about? i remember the retreats, but never them being compulsory.

In my school they are. Everyone regardless of their religion has to go on the retreats.
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9/7/2010 1:42:28 PM
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At 9/7/2010 1:34:14 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:30:58 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:15:50 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:46:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.

Catholic schools. There is no elevated place for rich people, well, not that much besides the obvious small private system.

Ah yes, because non-catholics and even non-christians definitely want to send their children to catholic schools. :)

Non-Catholics are accepted into those schools, you just have to go the sh*tty annual retreats.

what are you sh1tting on about? i remember the retreats, but never them being compulsory.

In my school they are. Everyone regardless of their religion has to go on the retreats.

lies i'd say. you didn't have to go to them if your parents didn't want you to.
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At 9/7/2010 1:42:28 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:39:29 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:34:14 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:30:58 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:15:50 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:46:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.

Catholic schools. There is no elevated place for rich people, well, not that much besides the obvious small private system.

Ah yes, because non-catholics and even non-christians definitely want to send their children to catholic schools. :)

Non-Catholics are accepted into those schools, you just have to go the sh*tty annual retreats.

what are you sh1tting on about? i remember the retreats, but never them being compulsory.

In my school they are. Everyone regardless of their religion has to go on the retreats.

lies i'd say. you didn't have to go to them if your parents didn't want you to.

Lies. I still go on them, usually they're a bit of craic.
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9/7/2010 1:49:44 PM
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At 9/7/2010 1:47:10 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:42:28 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:39:29 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:34:14 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:30:58 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:15:50 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:46:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.

Catholic schools. There is no elevated place for rich people, well, not that much besides the obvious small private system.

Ah yes, because non-catholics and even non-christians definitely want to send their children to catholic schools. :)

Non-Catholics are accepted into those schools, you just have to go the sh*tty annual retreats.

what are you sh1tting on about? i remember the retreats, but never them being compulsory.

In my school they are. Everyone regardless of their religion has to go on the retreats.

lies i'd say. you didn't have to go to them if your parents didn't want you to.

Lies. I still go on them, usually they're a bit of craic.

i used to go on them too, but you're still lying :)
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At 9/7/2010 1:49:44 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:47:10 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:42:28 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:39:29 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:34:14 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:30:58 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
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At 9/7/2010 12:46:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.

Catholic schools. There is no elevated place for rich people, well, not that much besides the obvious small private system.

Ah yes, because non-catholics and even non-christians definitely want to send their children to catholic schools. :)

Non-Catholics are accepted into those schools, you just have to go the sh*tty annual retreats.

what are you sh1tting on about? i remember the retreats, but never them being compulsory.

In my school they are. Everyone regardless of their religion has to go on the retreats.

lies i'd say. you didn't have to go to them if your parents didn't want you to.

Lies. I still go on them, usually they're a bit of craic.

i used to go on them too, but you're still lying :)

Want to read my schools Ethos?
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9/7/2010 1:54:35 PM
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At 9/7/2010 1:51:44 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:49:44 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:47:10 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:42:28 PM, badger wrote:
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At 9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.

Catholic schools. There is no elevated place for rich people, well, not that much besides the obvious small private system.

Ah yes, because non-catholics and even non-christians definitely want to send their children to catholic schools. :)

Non-Catholics are accepted into those schools, you just have to go the sh*tty annual retreats.

what are you sh1tting on about? i remember the retreats, but never them being compulsory.

In my school they are. Everyone regardless of their religion has to go on the retreats.

lies i'd say. you didn't have to go to them if your parents didn't want you to.

Lies. I still go on them, usually they're a bit of craic.

i used to go on them too, but you're still lying :)

Want to read my schools Ethos?

does it come in video form?
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9/7/2010 1:56:00 PM
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At 9/7/2010 1:54:35 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:51:44 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:49:44 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:47:10 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:42:28 PM, badger wrote:

lies i'd say. you didn't have to go to them if your parents didn't want you to.

Lies. I still go on them, usually they're a bit of craic.

i used to go on them too, but you're still lying :)

Want to read my schools Ethos?

does it come in video form?

My school ain't rich. Anyway, you gonna go to the the bother of responding to my points?
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9/7/2010 1:58:56 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/7/2010 1:56:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:54:35 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:51:44 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:49:44 PM, badger wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:47:10 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 1:42:28 PM, badger wrote:

lies i'd say. you didn't have to go to them if your parents didn't want you to.

Lies. I still go on them, usually they're a bit of craic.

i used to go on them too, but you're still lying :)

Want to read my schools Ethos?

does it come in video form?

My school ain't rich. Anyway, you gonna go to the the bother of responding to my points?

you could just go to the bother of reading through the rest of my posts.. and having a sit back to think about them. i'm rather stoned and tired/lazy. working man again now bud ;)
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9/7/2010 3:19:44 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/7/2010 12:28:14 PM, badger wrote:
now, i'm not talking about murderers or rapists or that sort, but thiefs, con artists, black market entrepreneurs and... that sort.:

Entrepreneurs are criminals???

they're hardly worse than the giant corporation owners, who exploit poor countries and pretty much turn their citizens into slaves... but you'll never see one of them end up in jail.:

Oh, please... *rolleyes* You do understand that slavery is forced labor, yes?

i didn't, however, really like capitalism up til recently, but it's not that i'd a problem with the dog eat dog road to success like i kinda let on, but with the fat cats who sit at the top having never done a day's work in their lives.:

What CEO can achieve the level of CEO without working a day in their lives? Even people fortunate enough to be born in to a rich family still has to learn every aspect of the company or risk running it in to the ground.

so i was thinking socialism there for a while:

Until you figured out that money doesn't grow on trees?

the way i see it, as a capitalist you've to essentially rob someone else to survive, and rob more people to prosper, so how's a criminal any different to you?:

WHAT??? Please explain how living in the real world means that you're robbing someone else to survive? Holy sh!t, please put down Karl Marx for two seconds, engage in the real world, and pull your head out of your @ss.

of course i might have my facts mixed up so i'll ask in advance that you forgive me for thinking such awful things of your character should that turn out to be the case:

Okay, you're back in my good graces. But, please, do some research. :)
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9/7/2010 3:40:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/7/2010 3:19:44 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:28:14 PM, badger wrote:
now, i'm not talking about murderers or rapists or that sort, but thiefs, con artists, black market entrepreneurs and... that sort.:

Entrepreneurs are criminals???

black market was in front of it.

they're hardly worse than the giant corporation owners, who exploit poor countries and pretty much turn their citizens into slaves... but you'll never see one of them end up in jail.:

Oh, please... *rolleyes* You do understand that slavery is forced labor, yes?

i said pretty much :)

i didn't, however, really like capitalism up til recently, but it's not that i'd a problem with the dog eat dog road to success like i kinda let on, but with the fat cats who sit at the top having never done a day's work in their lives.:

What CEO can achieve the level of CEO without working a day in their lives? Even people fortunate enough to be born in to a rich family still has to learn every aspect of the company or risk running it in to the ground.

was talking about inheritance and how money pools :)

so i was thinking socialism there for a while:

Until you figured out that money doesn't grow on trees?

well, i was thinking of a cooperative attempt where everyone had it the same.

the way i see it, as a capitalist you've to essentially rob someone else to survive, and rob more people to prosper, so how's a criminal any different to you?:

WHAT??? Please explain how living in the real world means that you're robbing someone else to survive? Holy sh!t, please put down Karl Marx for two seconds, engage in the real world, and pull your head out of your @ss.

the capitalist world. you are essentially robbing someone else to survive. say you open a bakery in your town, you're essentially robbing anyone else the opportunity to survive by running a bakery in that town. if you opened a franchise you'd be robbing even more people out of that opportunity. i realise that it takes a bit of a stretch to compare this to say robbing a house, but it's all survival really, and you're the one who's given the thief this opportunity in the first place, so it's partially your own fault :)

of course i might have my facts mixed up so i'll ask in advance that you forgive me for thinking such awful things of your character should that turn out to be the case:

Okay, you're back in my good graces. But, please, do some research. :)
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9/7/2010 4:01:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/7/2010 1:15:50 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:46:00 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 9/7/2010 12:32:37 PM, brian_eggleston wrote:
But in the UK - and I think Ireland too - if you don't come from a prosperous family: you won't get a decent education; which means you won't have the opportunity to make a lot of money.

Catholic schools. There is no elevated place for rich people, well, not that much besides the obvious small private system.

Ah yes, because non-catholics and even non-christians definitely want to send their children to catholic schools. :)

In Birmingham and presumably elsewhere in the UK, Catholic schools are actually quite popular with non-Catholics. Muslim parents in particular seem to think that they will have better discipline than non-denominational schools.
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9/7/2010 4:02:19 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 9/7/2010 4:01:09 PM, feverish wrote:

In Birmingham and presumably elsewhere in the UK*, Catholic schools are actually quite popular with non-Catholics. Muslim parents in particular seem to think that they will have better discipline than non-denominational schools.

* Probably not so much in NI come to think of it.