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10/20/2015 4:05:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
"The law of attraction will certainly and unerringly bring to you the conditions, environment and experiences in life, corresponding with your habitual, characteristic, predominant mental attitude." - Charles Haanel, The Master Key

The New Thought movement's ideas are generally described as pseudosciences (and from this movement came what we know as "Christian Science"). While we may have disregarded this rather odd group of ideas, do some people still believe in some of their doctrine? My example on this, the law of attraction, is really just a pile of drivel and confirmation bias.

But, I still do see it in the thought of many. In the thought of optimists, who take so much to convince themselves that all will be good - they become susceptible to falling into the trap of "if you're upset, it's because you see the world so negatively."

Is the world a cesspool of violence, hatred, and pain? Perhaps not in more economically privileged countries - sure. But that doesn't mean things cannot happen to people. If there is a woman, and her spouse beats her, and the woman commits suicide after years of abuse because she is too afraid of telling someone, should we say that her negative take on the situation is to blame?

Think about this:

Have you ever said that someone's negativity in their thought will make their experiences of less value than those who are more positive in thought (like attracts like)? If you have, can you justify your thought?
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10/20/2015 4:11:04 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/20/2015 4:05:44 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
"The law of attraction will certainly and unerringly bring to you the conditions, environment and experiences in life, corresponding with your habitual, characteristic, predominant mental attitude." - Charles Haanel, The Master Key

The New Thought movement's ideas are generally described as pseudosciences (and from this movement came what we know as "Christian Science"). While we may have disregarded this rather odd group of ideas, do some people still believe in some of their doctrine? My example on this, the law of attraction, is really just a pile of drivel and confirmation bias.

But, I still do see it in the thought of many. In the thought of optimists, who take so much to convince themselves that all will be good - they become susceptible to falling into the trap of "if you're upset, it's because you see the world so negatively."

Is the world a cesspool of violence, hatred, and pain? Perhaps not in more economically privileged countries - sure. But that doesn't mean things cannot happen to people. If there is a woman, and her spouse beats her, and the woman commits suicide after years of abuse because she is too afraid of telling someone, should we say that her negative take on the situation is to blame?

Think about this:

Have you ever said that someone's negativity in their thought will make their experiences of less value than those who are more positive in thought (like attracts like)? If you have, can you justify your thought?

There is a great West Wing where Josh sends Donna to a seminar spouting this sort of cr*p. Let me see if I can find the clip, its great/.
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10/20/2015 4:11:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/20/2015 4:11:04 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/20/2015 4:05:44 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
There is a great West Wing where Josh sends Donna to a seminar spouting this sort of cr*p. Let me see if I can find the clip, its great/.
Lol
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10/20/2015 4:13:23 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I see this mostly directed at people who are depressed. Nothing pisses me off more than when I hear people say "it's all in the head", as if they know what's wrong with the person. It's a joke at its philosophical base, but it's harmful when applied.
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10/20/2015 4:16:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/20/2015 4:11:57 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 10/20/2015 4:11:04 PM, TBR wrote:
At 10/20/2015 4:05:44 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
There is a great West Wing where Josh sends Donna to a seminar spouting this sort of cr*p. Let me see if I can find the clip, its great/.
Lol

I should say, its not like you have to walk around like a depressed russian novelists, but there is no reason to fool yourself into being "happy" either.

I have a thing for very depressing music. That is a large catalog, but I also love very happy music. Each has effect on my feelings and emotions. I just have no interest in some sort of bu11sh1tery blathered by a guy who was kicked out of greeting card business.
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10/20/2015 8:01:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
It's easy to be dismissive of new thought philosophy, because it's dumbed down for the benefit of the masses. Here is Tony Robbins with an exercise to kind of show you one of the ways in which "The Secret" works.

https://m.youtube.com...

It's not voodoo or a scam, you can apply new thought, rather easily.
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10/20/2015 8:53:56 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 10/20/2015 4:05:44 PM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
"The law of attraction will certainly and unerringly bring to you the conditions, environment and experiences in life, corresponding with your habitual, characteristic, predominant mental attitude." - Charles Haanel, The Master Key

The New Thought movement's ideas are generally described as pseudosciences (and from this movement came what we know as "Christian Science"). While we may have disregarded this rather odd group of ideas, do some people still believe in some of their doctrine? My example on this, the law of attraction, is really just a pile of drivel and confirmation bias.

But, I still do see it in the thought of many. In the thought of optimists, who take so much to convince themselves that all will be good - they become susceptible to falling into the trap of "if you're upset, it's because you see the world so negatively."

Is the world a cesspool of violence, hatred, and pain? Perhaps not in more economically privileged countries - sure. But that doesn't mean things cannot happen to people. If there is a woman, and her spouse beats her, and the woman commits suicide after years of abuse because she is too afraid of telling someone, should we say that her negative take on the situation is to blame?

Think about this:

Have you ever said that someone's negativity in their thought will make their experiences of less value than those who are more positive in thought (like attracts like)? If you have, can you justify your thought?

I think negative thinking can lead to unhealthy behaviors, such as self-loathing, alienation, and feeling inferior. Someone who is very negative in their thinking is also likely to not take initiative. I don't really know if this is the answer you wanted though.
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10/20/2015 9:16:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
I think negative thinking can lead to unhealthy behaviors, such as self-loathing, alienation, and feeling inferior. Someone who is very negative in their thinking is also likely to not take initiative. I don't really know if this is the answer you wanted though.

You should look at negative visualization. It can really help you live in the moment and enjoy life more. Or does that not count as negative thinking?