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Why Race Will Continue to be an Issue

YYW
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1/26/2016 1:39:43 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
The reason race will continue to be an issue is because blacks and non-blacks alike regard the problems causing their existence to be what it is to be external to the race, and not internal to the culture associated with the race.

Thomas Sowell, a black guy, understood this. Every black lawyer, doctor, or business man does as well. Only academics (black or otherwise) fail to understand this.
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1/26/2016 1:41:13 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 1:39:43 AM, YYW wrote:
The reason race will continue to be an issue is because blacks and non-blacks alike regard the problems causing their existence to be what it is to be external to the race, and not internal to the culture associated with the race.

Thomas Sowell, a black guy, understood this. Every black lawyer, doctor, or business man does as well. Only academics (black or otherwise) fail to understand this.

You suggest that race plays a bigger role here than socioeconomic status?
YYW
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1/26/2016 1:51:45 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 1/26/2016 1:41:13 AM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 1/26/2016 1:39:43 AM, YYW wrote:
The reason race will continue to be an issue is because blacks and non-blacks alike regard the problems causing their existence to be what it is to be external to the race, and not internal to the culture associated with the race.

Thomas Sowell, a black guy, understood this. Every black lawyer, doctor, or business man does as well. Only academics (black or otherwise) fail to understand this.

You suggest that race plays a bigger role here than socioeconomic status?

What I said here was that CULTURE is the determinative factor, and race is associated with that culture.

Poor white people don't get harassed nearly as badly as poor blacks, although relative to, for example, rich white people, poor white people have more adverse encounters with the police than rich white people.

The reasons for this is--and should be--obvious. Rich white people are more likely to have political connections that can result in negative career occurrences for cops that screw with the wrong guy, or the wrong guy's kid, and cops are perfectly conscious of this fact.

So, the rule is this: to the extent that you are likely to be politically connected, you are unlikely to be hassled by the cops.

More broadly, if you do things that create political pressure on the police to bring about a certain result, the more acute that pressure, the more likely the result is to happen.

Example: Maybe you're a politically active black alderman from a part of the city that's heavily minority influenced, but you have tremendous support from your constituents. Suppose you are a minority constituent who hosted a successful fundraiser for that alderman, and the police stop you. Get the alderman on the phone, and what do you think is going to happen? The police are going to back off.

But, if you're white and you look rich, the police aren't even going to take that risk unless you are doing something that overwhelmingly obviously cannot be ignored. Even then, the police are going to be gentle and by the book, because they know that if they screw up with politically connected people, it could be the end of their career.
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1/26/2016 4:53:36 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
I would add that I have not seen, yet at least, on DDO any proposal that could lead to the kinds of conditions where racism will become less of an issue in the United States. All I've seen is vain, and naive progressive activism, and rightful and justified rejections of that kind of activity.
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1/26/2016 5:02:33 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
What is especially interesting is the kind of resolute zeal that some people have in perpetuating the kinds of necessary illusions that exist with regard to race in this country.

One of those illusions is this:

"All problems black people currently experience are due to external causes, and no problem which afflicts black people, as black people, is caused by black culture."

Another is this:

"Cops are racist, and engaged in active efforts to keep black people down."
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1/26/2016 1:54:03 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
I think I'm going to post a bit more about why economic status alone isn't enough to explain things. That seems to be a point of contention with people.
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