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lamerde
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2/4/2016 10:42:54 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
Congratulations, you have white male privilege.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net...
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2/4/2016 11:53:08 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/4/2016 10:42:54 PM, lamerde wrote:
Congratulations, you have white male privilege.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net...

Lol. If traveled to well over 95% of times and places before globalization, I would have a decent chance of dying. Even white ones. Time travel in general seems like a terrible idea.
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2/5/2016 3:11:14 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Wrong. I could be enslaved in Ancient Egypt or in the medieval Ummah (ESPECIALLY in the medieval Ummah). I would be regarded as a barbarian in China or Japan during...well, any year up until 1842/1866. My race was a bunch of obscure caveman to the mysterious northwest lands until about 332 BC. Even in Ancient Greece or Ancient Rome, modern concepts of race didn't exist so I would be a barbarian for not being Greek or Roman.
In fact, the quality of life in white civilizations until the modern era was really s****y compared to, say, China or the Middle East or even the mesoamericas. It wasn't even until the 1800s that good treatment of whites mostly anywhere in the world was assured.
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2/5/2016 3:48:37 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/4/2016 10:42:54 PM, lamerde wrote:
Congratulations, you have white male privilege.

http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net...

I would go back and stop slavery of Africans in America by the Jews.
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2/6/2016 4:37:10 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/5/2016 2:22:00 AM, Maikuru wrote:
LOL caught me off guard.

You got all excited, didn't you? Didn't you? :p
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2/6/2016 4:39:03 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/6/2016 4:37:10 AM, lamerde wrote:
At 2/5/2016 2:22:00 AM, Maikuru wrote:
LOL caught me off guard.

You got all excited, didn't you? Didn't you? :p

I was all like, "Oh man, where would I want to go?!" Then you were all like, "Nah." Then I was all like http://i.onionstatic.com...
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2/6/2016 5:15:01 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/4/2016 10:42:54 PM, lamerde wrote:
Congratulations, you have white male privilege.

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- Not privilege, ignorance!
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2/7/2016 2:10:26 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/5/2016 12:41:41 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

Louis CK.

Haha!
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2/7/2016 6:32:19 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/7/2016 2:10:26 AM, lamerde wrote:
At 2/5/2016 12:41:41 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

Louis CK.

Haha!

Lol, any time means only the last 1000 years and only in Europe? The white devil is powerful indeed to erase everything and everyone else.
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2/7/2016 6:34:00 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/5/2016 3:11:14 AM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
Wrong. I could be enslaved in Ancient Egypt or in the medieval Ummah (ESPECIALLY in the medieval Ummah). I would be regarded as a barbarian in China or Japan during...well, any year up until 1842/1866. My race was a bunch of obscure caveman to the mysterious northwest lands until about 332 BC. Even in Ancient Greece or Ancient Rome, modern concepts of race didn't exist so I would be a barbarian for not being Greek or Roman.
In fact, the quality of life in white civilizations until the modern era was really s****y compared to, say, China or the Middle East or even the mesoamericas. It wasn't even until the 1800s that good treatment of whites mostly anywhere in the world was assured.

Don't forget if you happened to push the wrong place for 400 years ago and you ended up in Canada or USA 400 years ago without a musket. Wouldn't wanna be ya sir.
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2/7/2016 6:46:42 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/5/2016 12:41:41 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

Louis CK.

Why I think SJW politics is counter productive:

http://feministing.com...

That comedy sketch has done way more to make people, who otherwise woudn't, think about "white privilege" than anything on feministing ever did.

I actually remember reading this post and the comments back in 2010 as part of what started my skepticism toward the critical theory movements.
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2/7/2016 6:49:39 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/7/2016 6:46:42 PM, Raisor wrote:

Why I think SJW politics is counter productive:

I think your first problem is viewing "SJWs" as a monolithic group... people are diverse and have diverse ideas and opinions. It's like taking what you think is the worst of feminism and saying "this is what's wrong with feminism or feminist politics." Over-generalizations are bad all around.

http://feministing.com...

That comedy sketch has done way more to make people, who otherwise woudn't, think about "white privilege" than anything on feministing ever did.

I actually remember reading this post and the comments back in 2010 as part of what started my skepticism toward the critical theory movements.
Why I ignore YYW:
http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...
Calling someone a bitch multiple times while claiming you're taking the high road is an art form, I suppose: http://www.debate.org...
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2/7/2016 6:56:04 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/7/2016 6:49:39 PM, lamerde wrote:
At 2/7/2016 6:46:42 PM, Raisor wrote:

Why I think SJW politics is counter productive:

I think your first problem is viewing "SJWs" as a monolithic group... people are diverse and have diverse ideas and opinions. It's like taking what you think is the worst of feminism and saying "this is what's wrong with feminism or feminist politics." Over-generalizations are bad all around.


Except this isn't an over-generalization.

The critique of SJW is that they stifle speech and discussion by being over-sensitive, more interested in creating divisive politics, and are deaf to people with good motivations but less than perfect execution.

This post embodies that, and so do the comments. The comments now tend to be more reasonable, but when I first looked at it (5 years ago lol) most of the comments agreed with the post.

So yeah this is a single data point, but I think its a good example, and on a personal level I at least hope it shows that a lot of my feelings about SJW are not reactionary or knee-jerk. You asked a while ago whether I personally stopped supporting causes because of things they said - here is an example, I no longer read feministing because of posts like the one I linked. So they lost a sympathetic ear. I guess judge me how you want...

http://feministing.com...

That comedy sketch has done way more to make people, who otherwise woudn't, think about "white privilege" than anything on feministing ever did.

I actually remember reading this post and the comments back in 2010 as part of what started my skepticism toward the critical theory movements.
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2/8/2016 12:29:21 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Hmmm how about being white in Japan 150 years ago? That could be a thrill!

Just say you are Tom Cruise and the last samurai.

White powa!
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2/8/2016 1:05:25 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
I'd go to the future to see how hot the babes were due to genetic manipulation. Thrn I'd steal them back to a time before women had rights and make them my sex slave. Savy?
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2/8/2016 1:30:55 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
Maybe this thread should be titled "if you could travel anywhere in time and space" given the responses...
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2/8/2016 1:34:00 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/8/2016 1:30:55 AM, lamerde wrote:
Maybe this thread should be titled "if you could travel anywhere in time and space" given the responses...

My answer would probably be the same either way...

I just want to meet Lincoln : (
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2/8/2016 1:58:12 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/8/2016 1:34:00 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 2/8/2016 1:30:55 AM, lamerde wrote:
Maybe this thread should be titled "if you could travel anywhere in time and space" given the responses...

My answer would probably be the same either way...

I just want to meet Lincoln : (

Spoil the play "My American Cousin" so he can get a chance to heal the nation.
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2/8/2016 2:18:04 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/8/2016 1:58:12 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/8/2016 1:34:00 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 2/8/2016 1:30:55 AM, lamerde wrote:
Maybe this thread should be titled "if you could travel anywhere in time and space" given the responses...

My answer would probably be the same either way...

I just want to meet Lincoln : (

Spoil the play "My American Cousin" so he can get a chance to heal the nation.

My hopes only went as high as seeing him...his assassination is one of the few events in history that still get me worked up.

I can only wonder about what reconstruction would have been if he were alive.

As it were, my opinion is that the aim of reconstruction policies tended to be very progressive but poorly administered. Lincoln was an expert executive and the counterfactual of how re-admittance to the union and subsequent policies would have gone is something to wonder at.
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2/8/2016 2:22:04 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/8/2016 2:18:04 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 2/8/2016 1:58:12 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/8/2016 1:34:00 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 2/8/2016 1:30:55 AM, lamerde wrote:
Maybe this thread should be titled "if you could travel anywhere in time and space" given the responses...

My answer would probably be the same either way...

I just want to meet Lincoln : (

Spoil the play "My American Cousin" so he can get a chance to heal the nation.

My hopes only went as high as seeing him...his assassination is one of the few events in history that still get me worked up.

I can only wonder about what reconstruction would have been if he were alive.

As it were, my opinion is that the aim of reconstruction policies tended to be very progressive but poorly administered. Lincoln was an expert executive and the counterfactual of how re-admittance to the union and subsequent policies would have gone is something to wonder at.

I feel exactly the same way.
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2/8/2016 2:32:37 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/8/2016 2:22:04 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/8/2016 2:18:04 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 2/8/2016 1:58:12 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/8/2016 1:34:00 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 2/8/2016 1:30:55 AM, lamerde wrote:
Maybe this thread should be titled "if you could travel anywhere in time and space" given the responses...

My answer would probably be the same either way...

I just want to meet Lincoln : (

Spoil the play "My American Cousin" so he can get a chance to heal the nation.

My hopes only went as high as seeing him...his assassination is one of the few events in history that still get me worked up.

I can only wonder about what reconstruction would have been if he were alive.

As it were, my opinion is that the aim of reconstruction policies tended to be very progressive but poorly administered. Lincoln was an expert executive and the counterfactual of how re-admittance to the union and subsequent policies would have gone is something to wonder at.

I feel exactly the same way.

Hey man, this is DDO, you aren't supposed to agree with me.
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2/8/2016 2:33:15 AM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/8/2016 2:32:37 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 2/8/2016 2:22:04 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/8/2016 2:18:04 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 2/8/2016 1:58:12 AM, Greyparrot wrote:
At 2/8/2016 1:34:00 AM, Raisor wrote:
At 2/8/2016 1:30:55 AM, lamerde wrote:
Maybe this thread should be titled "if you could travel anywhere in time and space" given the responses...

My answer would probably be the same either way...

I just want to meet Lincoln : (

Spoil the play "My American Cousin" so he can get a chance to heal the nation.

My hopes only went as high as seeing him...his assassination is one of the few events in history that still get me worked up.

I can only wonder about what reconstruction would have been if he were alive.

As it were, my opinion is that the aim of reconstruction policies tended to be very progressive but poorly administered. Lincoln was an expert executive and the counterfactual of how re-admittance to the union and subsequent policies would have gone is something to wonder at.

I feel exactly the same way.

Hey man, this is DDO, you aren't supposed to agree with me.

goddammit
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2/9/2016 11:46:53 PM
Posted: 10 months ago
At 2/7/2016 6:46:42 PM, Raisor wrote:
At 2/5/2016 12:41:41 AM, popculturepooka wrote:
https://www.youtube.com...

Louis CK.

Why I think SJW politics is counter productive:


Okay, yeah. I have to agree that was over the top.

http://feministing.com...

That comedy sketch has done way more to make people, who otherwise woudn't, think about "white privilege" than anything on feministing ever did.

I actually remember reading this post and the comments back in 2010 as part of what started my skepticism toward the critical theory movements.
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