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opinionated_girl
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11/15/2010 8:29:03 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
In Sociology class we were talking about how a man can get charged for rape even if the girl agrees and theyre both underage because her age is all that matters. And also that women cannot be charged for rape LIKE EVER!! Totally wrong.
Ore_Ele
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11/15/2010 10:12:38 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Tell your teacher to read up on the laws.

http://www.cga.ct.gov...

(each state's law gives a breif summary, but also lists the legal code so you can pull up the exact wording of the law).
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11/15/2010 10:14:37 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I see that you are from Ohio,

here is your state law.

http://codes.ohio.gov...

"(A) No person who is eighteen years of age or older shall engage in sexual conduct with another, who is not the spouse of the offender, when the offender knows the other person is thirteen years of age or older but less than sixteen years of age, or the offender is reckless in that regard."
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Zetsubou
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11/15/2010 10:15:07 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Sexual assault for a person age 18 to engage in sexual conduct with a minor if the actor knows that the minor is between ages 13 and 16.
http://www.cga.ct.gov...
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11/15/2010 10:34:02 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
there's a difference between de jure and de facto.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
Zetsubou
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11/15/2010 10:39:42 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 10:34:02 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
there's a difference between de jure and de facto.
The law is very explicit. I don't think a court can twist the law enough to make a different ruling, je facto, or common.
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11/15/2010 10:59:43 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Umm...yea, I'm pretty sure women are charged for rape. You just don't notice since they tend to rape less often than men. It's usually the women being raped.
Ren
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11/15/2010 11:50:53 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
1. Women are more physically vulnerable than men.

2. Men can't get pregnant.

3. Men are less selective about who they have sex with.
Ragnar_Rahl
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11/15/2010 1:19:42 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 10:39:42 AM, Zetsubou wrote:
At 11/15/2010 10:34:02 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
there's a difference between de jure and de facto.
The law is very explicit. I don't think a court can twist the law enough to make a different ruling, je facto, or common.

Sure it can.

"You got raped? By a woman?

No. Srsly.

Next case."

Or more precisely, the prosecutor exercises his discretion and never takes it to court, so even less sees the light of day.

Granted, this is more likely to happen with domestic abuse than rape (doesn't matter who hit who, the man goes to jail), just because it is true, it is actually rare for women to rape :P.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
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11/15/2010 1:21:44 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
and prosecuting the male in an underage couple is no different than many other selective legal applications that various legal systems do at various times, like targeting dealers instead of junkies, johns instead of hookers, or vice versa, etc.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
Ren
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11/15/2010 1:48:33 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 1:45:05 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/15/2010 11:50:53 AM, Ren wrote:
1. Women are more physically vulnerable than men.
Women can take more pain than men.

That is false.

If you're referring to childbirth, then it's because women are physiologically prepared to endure it through hormones and their clitoris. However, in terms of a threshold for pain, women's are lower on average. http://www.medicinenet.com...

Also, women are usually physiologically more vulnerable than men, in that they are less resilient and more fragile. This doesn't necessarily have much to do with pain.
Ren
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11/15/2010 1:49:15 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 1:47:14 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/15/2010 1:46:01 PM, Ren wrote:
Men serve no function.
That is absolutely not true. Saying that is a catastrophe.

A rather anticlimactic one, then.

What purpose do men serve?
Mirza
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11/15/2010 1:52:35 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 1:48:33 PM, Ren wrote:
That is false.
Not true.

If you're referring to childbirth, then it's because women are physiologically prepared to endure it through hormones and their clitoris. However, in terms of a threshold for pain, women's are lower on average. http://www.medicinenet.com...

Also, women are usually physiologically more vulnerable than men, in that they are less resilient and more fragile. This doesn't necessarily have much to do with pain.
It is not only about childbirth. Women are more tolerant to pain than men, save for mental pain, which men are more tolerant to.
Mirza
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11/15/2010 1:53:15 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 1:49:15 PM, Ren wrote:
At 11/15/2010 1:47:14 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/15/2010 1:46:01 PM, Ren wrote:
Men serve no function.
That is absolutely not true. Saying that is a catastrophe.

A rather anticlimactic one, then.

What purpose do men serve?
To carry on humankind. Are you trying to waste my time?
Ren
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11/15/2010 1:54:04 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 1:52:35 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/15/2010 1:48:33 PM, Ren wrote:
That is false.
Not true.

If you're referring to childbirth, then it's because women are physiologically prepared to endure it through hormones and their clitoris. However, in terms of a threshold for pain, women's are lower on average. http://www.medicinenet.com...

Also, women are usually physiologically more vulnerable than men, in that they are less resilient and more fragile. This doesn't necessarily have much to do with pain.
It is not only about childbirth. Women are more tolerant to pain than men, save for mental pain, which men are more tolerant to.

Didn't even read what I said, nor the link, eh?

It just feels good to think you're right?

Alright.
Ren
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11/15/2010 1:55:12 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 1:53:15 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/15/2010 1:49:15 PM, Ren wrote:
At 11/15/2010 1:47:14 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/15/2010 1:46:01 PM, Ren wrote:
Men serve no function.
That is absolutely not true. Saying that is a catastrophe.

A rather anticlimactic one, then.

What purpose do men serve?
To carry on humankind. Are you trying to waste my time?

Women are necessary for that.

Alright, let's try this:

What purpose do men serve that women do not.

Also: you're under no obligation to speak to me, thus, whatever time is wasted is by your hand.
Mirza
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11/15/2010 1:56:36 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 1:54:04 PM, Ren wrote:
Didn't even read what I said, nor the link, eh?

It just feels good to think you're right?

Alright.
http://popwatch.ew.com...

Watch the myth being busted.
Mirza
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11/15/2010 1:57:56 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 1:55:12 PM, Ren wrote:
Women are necessary for that.
Women cannot carry on humankind without men.

Alright, let's try this:
Yes, let us make it look like you were not wrong.

What purpose do men serve that women do not.
Beg the question, feel free.

Also: you're under no obligation to speak to me, thus, whatever time is wasted is by your hand.
You have no obligation to try to waste my time either.
Ren
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11/15/2010 1:58:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 1:56:36 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/15/2010 1:54:04 PM, Ren wrote:
Didn't even read what I said, nor the link, eh?

It just feels good to think you're right?

Alright.
http://popwatch.ew.com...

Watch the myth being busted.

I can totally see how you figure that Entertainment Weekly is a more substantive source than a doctor.
Ren
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11/15/2010 2:02:02 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 1:57:56 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/15/2010 1:55:12 PM, Ren wrote:
Women are necessary for that.
Women cannot carry on humankind without men.

Huh?

"Men cannot carry on humankind without women."
"Oh yeah?! Well, women cannot carry on humankind without men! Ha-HA!"

Alright, let's try this:
Yes, let us make it look like you were not wrong.

What purpose do men serve that women do not.
Beg the question, feel free.

http://begthequestion.info...

"What is "Begging the Question?"
"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself."

My question was "what purpose do men serve that women do not?"

That cannot be a logical fallacy, because it is an open-ended question.

Also: you're under no obligation to speak to me, thus, whatever time is wasted is by your hand.
You have no obligation to try to waste my time either.

What makes you think that I'm speaking to you for any other reason than you spoke to me?
Mirza
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11/15/2010 2:03:20 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 1:58:59 PM, Ren wrote:
I can totally see how you figure that Entertainment Weekly is a more substantive source than a doctor.
Doctors take u-turns, and MythBusters is a valid TV show.
Mirza
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11/15/2010 2:06:46 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 2:02:02 PM, Ren wrote:
Huh?
What? You were the one who brought up a foolish comment.

"Men cannot carry on humankind without women."
"Oh yeah?! Well, women cannot carry on humankind without men! Ha-HA!"
What are you laughing at? You said that men serve no purpose, I said that they carry on humankind, and you said that women do that. Clearly women cannot do that. If you want to laugh at anyone then laugh at yourself.

Alright, let's try this:
Yes, let us make it look like you were not wrong.
Read it very well.

http://begthequestion.info...

"What is "Begging the Question?"
"Begging the question" is a form of logical fallacy in which a statement or claim is assumed to be true without evidence other than the statement or claim itself."

My question was "what purpose do men serve that women do not?"

That cannot be a logical fallacy, because it is an open-ended question.
Your claim that "men serve no purpose" is as illogical, idiotic, foolish, rubbish, ridiculous, scientifically unsupported statement as possible. Your question was an attempt to make it look like you did not make a rubbish claim.

What makes you think that I'm speaking to you for any other reason than you spoke to me?
I am speaking logically, you are evading and making rubbish comments.
Ren
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11/15/2010 2:07:36 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 2:03:20 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 11/15/2010 1:58:59 PM, Ren wrote:
I can totally see how you figure that Entertainment Weekly is a more substantive source than a doctor.
Doctors take u-turns, and MythBusters is a valid TV show.

Uh huh.
Ren
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11/15/2010 2:33:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 2:10:17 PM, Mirza wrote:
I meant that women cannot do it without men either.

It doesn't matter what you meant.

Either show how men are exclusively necessary to anything but themselves, or stop filling up this thread with basura.
Mirza
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11/15/2010 3:04:44 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 11/15/2010 2:33:09 PM, Ren wrote:
It doesn't matter what you meant.
Yes it does. I corrected a mistake I made when writing.

Either show how men are exclusively necessary to anything but themselves, or stop filling up this thread with basura.
Men are necessary for the existence of women, and vice versa. If you cannot acknowledge this then I have no need of wasting my time proving it to you.