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The Beauty of the Chaos

FREEDO
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1/2/2011 11:24:38 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Do you see the beauty in the fact that life isn't perfect--that perfection must be fought for? I think it's better that way. The realization gives a whole new respect for those views which you may disagree with. Having separate teams is all just part of the game.
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mattrodstrom
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1/3/2011 4:04:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/2/2011 11:24:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Do you see the beauty in the fact that life isn't perfect

how would life be "perfect"/(as it should be)

how's it Not perfect/as it should be?

what makes something such that it "should be" a certain way??
where's the decision of what makes "perfection" come from???

and why are you happy it's Not as it "should be"??
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innomen
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1/3/2011 4:08:21 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/3/2011 4:04:30 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
At 1/2/2011 11:24:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Do you see the beauty in the fact that life isn't perfect

how would life be "perfect"/(as it should be)

how's it Not perfect/as it should be?

what makes something such that it "should be" a certain way??
where's the decision of what makes "perfection" come from???

and why are you happy it's Not as it "should be"??

Many think that perfection is everyone getting everything that they want. Which really isn't perfection at all. What is perfect to Mirza, probably isn't perfect to TheLwerd.

I have no idea what perfection in life would be.
PoeJoe
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1/3/2011 8:27:15 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/2/2011 11:24:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Do you see the beauty in the fact that life isn't perfect--that perfection must be fought for? I think it's better that way. The realization gives a whole new respect for those views which you may disagree with. Having separate teams is all just part of the game.

Far out, dude. *takes a drag and passes along*
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M.Torres
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1/6/2011 11:15:38 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Isn't that like Plato's "Realm of Forms" or whatever? (Can't remember the exact name)

The idea of no matter how something is (concerning its existence) it is a mere shadow of the "perfect" form.
: At 11/28/2011 1:28:24 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
: M. Torres said it, so it must be right.

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Ragnar_Rahl
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1/6/2011 11:25:27 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/3/2011 8:27:15 PM, PoeJoe wrote:
At 1/2/2011 11:24:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Do you see the beauty in the fact that life isn't perfect--that perfection must be fought for? I think it's better that way. The realization gives a whole new respect for those views which you may disagree with. Having separate teams is all just part of the game.

Far out, dude. *takes a drag and passes along*

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Kleptin
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1/6/2011 12:22:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/2/2011 11:24:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Do you see the beauty in the fact that life isn't perfect--that perfection must be fought for? I think it's better that way. The realization gives a whole new respect for those views which you may disagree with. Having separate teams is all just part of the game.

Actually, the beauty for me is the realization that life isn't perfect, and that there's no need to fight for perfection.
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.
Ogan
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1/6/2011 2:04:27 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/6/2011 12:22:56 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 1/2/2011 11:24:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Do you see the beauty in the fact that life isn't perfect--that perfection must be fought for? I think it's better that way. The realization gives a whole new respect for those views which you may disagree with. Having separate teams is all just part of the game.

Actually, the beauty for me is the realization that life isn't perfect, and that there's no need to fight for perfection.

What about fighting for self-improvement?
Kleptin
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1/6/2011 2:09:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/6/2011 2:04:27 PM, Ogan wrote:
What about fighting for self-improvement?

How do you know when you've improved?
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.
Ogan
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1/6/2011 2:27:05 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/6/2011 2:09:58 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 1/6/2011 2:04:27 PM, Ogan wrote:
What about fighting for self-improvement?

How do you know when you've improved?

How do you know that your face is clean?
Ren
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1/6/2011 2:30:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/2/2011 11:24:38 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Do you see the beauty in the fact that life isn't perfect--that perfection must be fought for? I think it's better that way. The realization gives a whole new respect for those views which you may disagree with. Having separate teams is all just part of the game.

Of course, lest it wouldn't be that way.

The problem lay in the fact that once people realize that there is a better way to do things, then the way that they do things, even, the way that they are, is wrong. This is very difficult to accept; there's too much accountability, it's too taxing on our pride.

Thus, we contrive want- or need-based social systems to trick ourselves into believing that the higher purpose is solely ourselves.

>exhales and passes it along<
Kleptin
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1/6/2011 2:38:27 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/6/2011 2:27:05 PM, Ogan wrote:
How do you know that your face is clean?

It doesn't feel...sticky?

I give up.
: At 5/2/2010 2:43:54 PM, innomen wrote:
It isn't about finding a theory, philosophy or doctrine and thinking it's the answer, but a practical application of one's experiences that is the answer.

: At 10/28/2010 2:40:07 PM, jharry wrote: I have already been given the greatest Gift that anyone could ever hope for [Life], I would consider myself selfish if I expected anything more.
Vi_Veri
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1/6/2011 2:44:13 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
*takes a drag, passes it to the next person*

Or how about - like - if something was perfect... then wouldn't that necessitate that everyone would appreciate it? Wouldn't appreciation, a feeling of being content, following in a perfect world?
I could give a f about no haters as long as my ishes love me.
Ogan
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1/6/2011 2:54:44 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/6/2011 2:38:27 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 1/6/2011 2:27:05 PM, Ogan wrote:
How do you know that your face is clean?

It doesn't feel...sticky?

I give up.

Look in the 'mirror'.
gavin.ogden
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1/6/2011 3:00:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/6/2011 2:54:44 PM, Ogan wrote:
At 1/6/2011 2:38:27 PM, Kleptin wrote:
At 1/6/2011 2:27:05 PM, Ogan wrote:
How do you know that your face is clean?

It doesn't feel...sticky?

I give up.

Look in the 'mirror'.

Ahhh, I see.