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8/20/2016 5:31:36 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/20/2016 3:55:43 AM, harrytruman wrote:
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
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Like with men, all women are different. There probably are some women who want to be dominated (or even downright raped), but I wouldn't say that this group is representative of most women.
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8/20/2016 8:40:56 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/20/2016 3:55:43 AM, harrytruman wrote:
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
http://www.debate.org...

He's an idiot, and it's obvious that you can't generalize people entirely based on their gender.

His quote was:
"But there"s a dark side to this. Because so many women like being dominated, they are more likely to tolerate physical and emotional abuse in relationships, and are less likely to strive to positions of power in society. In some ways, to be sexually fulfilled, women must sacrifice their dignity."

So I'll talk about this. I think there's a place for being dominated, and there's a place for not being dominated. Bronto is making it seem like women enjoy submitting themselves to abuse, which isn't the case. In terms of sexual acts, I'd say that in some cases, they like being more submissive, this, however, isn't how he worded his claim. I can guarantee you that women in most cases, hate emotional abuse and physical abuse. The part where he speaks about the likeliness to strive to positions of power in society, is semi-true perhaps. This claim has no evidence to back it up, however. In certain countries though, there's a higher percentage of women than men, in positions of power (http://one-europe.info...). He's also dismissing the fact that in some countries, women are more restricted from being in power. Countries which are more restrictive, have a lower female boss rate (http://www.businessinsider.com...).
Why would a woman need to sacrifice her dignity to be sexually fulfilled, anyway? The two aren't mutually exclusive.

His other quote:
"There"s also a dark side for men. Because men are turned on by being dominant, they are more likely to engage in rape and other sadistic acts, because for some men, consensual sex is a turnoff. If the woman is agreeing to the sex, she"s not being dominated, which ruins the experience for a lot of men. The dark truth is that a lot of men are so evil, they go home every night and have sex with their wives, while fantasizing about jumping out of the bushes and raping some completely random lady on the street."

I think it depends on the man, once again.
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Lots tend to be switches, that go back and forth. This also implies that every sexual act committed by men can be non-consensual, and that it's a turn-off, implying that all are of aggressive nature, which is not the case. As a man, what do you think of these claims?
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8/20/2016 11:50:45 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/20/2016 3:55:43 AM, harrytruman wrote:
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
http://www.debate.org...

In short, women do. Obviously, not all the time, however look at the 'market place' for such sexual activity.

Men pay for sex (or heavily compete for females) on a premium for 2 things- incredible looks or outside the norm talent, of which dominatrices fall into.

The supply of female dominant sex is rare because the desire to do the work is virtually non existent, hence the price. On the flip side, 'male dominators' are virtually a dime a dozen, as its what most relationships on some level offer anyways.
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
http://www.debate.org...
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8/20/2016 1:29:20 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/20/2016 3:55:43 AM, harrytruman wrote:
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
http://www.debate.org...

Guys, guys, guys, this is brontoraptor we're talking about. I doesn't even know how to speak. I've proved he's dumb in a debate. For worry, Bronto is trying to practice speaking so that he can get with the ladies. It's obviously still not working out for him though.
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8/20/2016 2:53:43 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/20/2016 8:40:56 AM, foxxhajti wrote:
At 8/20/2016 3:55:43 AM, harrytruman wrote:
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
http://www.debate.org...

He's an idiot, and it's obvious that you can't generalize people entirely based on their gender.

His quote was:
"But there"s a dark side to this. Because so many women like being dominated, they are more likely to tolerate physical and emotional abuse in relationships, and are less likely to strive to positions of power in society. In some ways, to be sexually fulfilled, women must sacrifice their dignity."

So I'll talk about this. I think there's a place for being dominated, and there's a place for not being dominated. Bronto is making it seem like women enjoy submitting themselves to abuse, which isn't the case. In terms of sexual acts, I'd say that in some cases, they like being more submissive, this, however, isn't how he worded his claim. I can guarantee you that women in most cases, hate emotional abuse and physical abuse. The part where he speaks about the likeliness to strive to positions of power in society, is semi-true perhaps. This claim has no evidence to back it up, however. In certain countries though, there's a higher percentage of women than men, in positions of power (http://one-europe.info...). He's also dismissing the fact that in some countries, women are more restricted from being in power. Countries which are more restrictive, have a lower female boss rate (http://www.businessinsider.com...).
Why would a woman need to sacrifice her dignity to be sexually fulfilled, anyway? The two aren't mutually exclusive.

His other quote:
"There"s also a dark side for men. Because men are turned on by being dominant, they are more likely to engage in rape and other sadistic acts, because for some men, consensual sex is a turnoff. If the woman is agreeing to the sex, she"s not being dominated, which ruins the experience for a lot of men. The dark truth is that a lot of men are so evil, they go home every night and have sex with their wives, while fantasizing about jumping out of the bushes and raping some completely random lady on the street."

I think it depends on the man, once again.
https://www.reddit.com...
https://www.reddit.com...

Lots tend to be switches, that go back and forth. This also implies that every sexual act committed by men can be non-consensual, and that it's a turn-off, implying that all are of aggressive nature, which is not the case. As a man, what do you think of these claims?

They're nonsense,
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8/20/2016 9:13:18 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/20/2016 1:29:20 PM, HeavenlyPanda wrote:
At 8/20/2016 3:55:43 AM, harrytruman wrote:
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
http://www.debate.org...

Guys, guys, guys, this is brontoraptor we're talking about. I doesn't even know how to speak. I've proved he's dumb in a debate. For worry, Bronto is trying to practice speaking so that he can get with the ladies. It's obviously still not working out for him though.

No, he's practicing sexism and showing how much of a moron he is.

Trust me. NO ONE wants to be with a sexist or a racist. People don't deserve that!
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8/20/2016 9:15:29 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/20/2016 8:40:56 AM, foxxhajti wrote:
At 8/20/2016 3:55:43 AM, harrytruman wrote:
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
http://www.debate.org...

He's an idiot, and it's obvious that you can't generalize people entirely based on their gender.

His quote was:
"But there"s a dark side to this. Because so many women like being dominated, they are more likely to tolerate physical and emotional abuse in relationships, and are less likely to strive to positions of power in society. In some ways, to be sexually fulfilled, women must sacrifice their dignity."

So I'll talk about this. I think there's a place for being dominated, and there's a place for not being dominated. Bronto is making it seem like women enjoy submitting themselves to abuse, which isn't the case. In terms of sexual acts, I'd say that in some cases, they like being more submissive, this, however, isn't how he worded his claim. I can guarantee you that women in most cases, hate emotional abuse and physical abuse. The part where he speaks about the likeliness to strive to positions of power in society, is semi-true perhaps. This claim has no evidence to back it up, however. In certain countries though, there's a higher percentage of women than men, in positions of power (http://one-europe.info...). He's also dismissing the fact that in some countries, women are more restricted from being in power. Countries which are more restrictive, have a lower female boss rate (http://www.businessinsider.com...).
Why would a woman need to sacrifice her dignity to be sexually fulfilled, anyway? The two aren't mutually exclusive.

His other quote:
"There"s also a dark side for men. Because men are turned on by being dominant, they are more likely to engage in rape and other sadistic acts, because for some men, consensual sex is a turnoff. If the woman is agreeing to the sex, she"s not being dominated, which ruins the experience for a lot of men. The dark truth is that a lot of men are so evil, they go home every night and have sex with their wives, while fantasizing about jumping out of the bushes and raping some completely random lady on the street."

I think it depends on the man, once again.
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https://www.reddit.com...

Lots tend to be switches, that go back and forth. This also implies that every sexual act committed by men can be non-consensual, and that it's a turn-off, implying that all are of aggressive nature, which is not the case. As a man, what do you think of these claims?

I agree that not all men are horny/aggressive because everyone is their own individual, not a stereotype!

Not all sex acts committed by men/women are non-consensual.

How stupid can people be?
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8/20/2016 9:20:25 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/20/2016 11:50:45 AM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 8/20/2016 3:55:43 AM, harrytruman wrote:
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
http://www.debate.org...



In short, women do. Obviously, not all the time, however look at the 'market place' for such sexual activity.

And in short, you are a moron. Some men and women might like being abused but not all women/men like being abused!

Men pay for sex (or heavily compete for females) on a premium for 2 things- incredible looks or outside the norm talent, of which dominatrices fall into.

NO, NO, AND NO! Are you all men? NO, you're not! So don't say that all men pay for sex because not all men pay for sex! That's pretty sexist and offensive! There are tons of women who pay for sex too. Plus, NOT ALL MEN CARE ABOUT GOOD LOOKS! Implying that all men like sex is pretty sexist and f**ked up and I'm sure most people, at least most people who are RATIONAL human beings, unlike you, would agree with me!

The supply of female dominant sex is rare because the desire to do the work is virtually non existent, hence the price. On the flip side, 'male dominators' are virtually a dime a dozen, as its what most relationships on some level offer anyways.

Actually, female dominant sex isn't rare at all! There are TONS of supplies of female AND male dominant sex!
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8/22/2016 12:40:56 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
http://www.debate.org...



In short, women do. Obviously, not all the time, however look at the 'market place' for such sexual activity.

And in short, you are a moron. Some men and women might like being abused but not all women/men like being abused!

So, you didn't actually read my reply, did you? See the part that starts with "obviously", and has a phrase behind it?

Men pay for sex (or heavily compete for females) on a premium for 2 things- incredible looks or outside the norm talent, of which dominatrices fall into.

NO, NO, AND NO! Are you all men? NO, you're not! So don't say that all men pay for sex because

I won't. Which is why I didn't say "all men", I stated "men", in general, because its a general truism.

not all men pay for sex!

If its with a woman, the odds of there not being some variety of exchange for sex is virtually nil. Pretty much the only time that happens is via some variety of "drunk hook up", though occasional exception can be found. In either case, its far from the norm. This is why men are expected to pay for dates, and in general "court" a woman, so as to show her that he is capable of supporting her during pregnancy, and typically why women should be choosy about their partners: they have a lot more to risk than the male does... at least before influence of government.

That's pretty sexist and offensive! There are tons of women who pay for sex too.

And why do you suppose that is? Answer honestly.

Plus, NOT ALL MEN CARE ABOUT GOOD LOOKS! Implying that all men like sex is pretty sexist and f**ked up and I'm sure most people, at least most people who are RATIONAL human beings, unlike you, would agree with me!

If men didn't like sex, as a general truism, or didn't like good looks, as a general truism, you are welcome to explain current market trends, products geared with the intent of catching men's eye, etc. Pro tip: ulgy chaste women isn't going to do that.

The supply of female dominant sex is rare because the desire to do the work is virtually non existent, hence the price. On the flip side, 'male dominators' are virtually a dime a dozen, as its what most relationships on some level offer anyways.

Actually, female dominant sex isn't rare at all! There are TONS of supplies of female AND male dominant sex!

"Isn't rare at all", when compared to the entirety of sexual relationships ever? There is a reason such a pairing is considered "deviant" in nature, it flies in the face of the current trend. When you compare the pairings of men and women, as in all of them, honestly, what percentage of them do you think is going to be a female dominant dynamic vs a male dominant dynamic?
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
http://www.debate.org...
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8/24/2016 9:35:22 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/22/2016 12:40:56 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
http://www.debate.org...



In short, women do. Obviously, not all the time, however look at the 'market place' for such sexual activity.

And in short, you are a moron. Some men and women might like being abused but not all women/men like being abused!

So, you didn't actually read my reply, did you? See the part that starts with "obviously", and has a phrase behind it?

Men pay for sex (or heavily compete for females) on a premium for 2 things- incredible looks or outside the norm talent, of which dominatrices fall into.

NO, NO, AND NO! Are you all men? NO, you're not! So don't say that all men pay for sex because

I won't. Which is why I didn't say "all men", I stated "men", in general, because its a general truism.

not all men pay for sex!

If its with a woman, the odds of there not being some variety of exchange for sex is virtually nil. Pretty much the only time that happens is via some variety of "drunk hook up", though occasional exception can be found. In either case, its far from the norm. This is why men are expected to pay for dates, and in general "court" a woman, so as to show her that he is capable of supporting her during pregnancy, and typically why women should be choosy about their partners: they have a lot more to risk than the male does... at least before influence of government.

That's pretty sexist and offensive! There are tons of women who pay for sex too.

And why do you suppose that is? Answer honestly.

Plus, NOT ALL MEN CARE ABOUT GOOD LOOKS! Implying that all men like sex is pretty sexist and f**ked up and I'm sure most people, at least most people who are RATIONAL human beings, unlike you, would agree with me!

If men didn't like sex, as a general truism, or didn't like good looks, as a general truism, you are welcome to explain current market trends, products geared with the intent of catching men's eye, etc. Pro tip: ulgy chaste women isn't going to do that.

The supply of female dominant sex is rare because the desire to do the work is virtually non existent, hence the price. On the flip side, 'male dominators' are virtually a dime a dozen, as its what most relationships on some level offer anyways.

Actually, female dominant sex isn't rare at all! There are TONS of supplies of female AND male dominant sex!

"Isn't rare at all", when compared to the entirety of sexual relationships ever? There is a reason such a pairing is considered "deviant" in nature, it flies in the face of the current trend. When you compare the pairings of men and women, as in all of them, honestly, what percentage of them do you think is going to be a female dominant dynamic vs a male dominant dynamic?

If you look at the statistics it's certainly not rare for women to be the dominant partner in a relationship.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...
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8/24/2016 9:39:38 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/20/2016 3:55:43 AM, harrytruman wrote:
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
http://www.debate.org...

It's true some women like to be dominated in the manner he describes but he is wrong to think all women like to be dominated. A significant percentage of women are the dominant partner in a relationship.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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8/24/2016 9:45:43 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/24/2016 9:35:22 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 8/22/2016 12:40:56 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
http://www.debate.org...



In short, women do. Obviously, not all the time, however look at the 'market place' for such sexual activity.

And in short, you are a moron. Some men and women might like being abused but not all women/men like being abused!

So, you didn't actually read my reply, did you? See the part that starts with "obviously", and has a phrase behind it?

Men pay for sex (or heavily compete for females) on a premium for 2 things- incredible looks or outside the norm talent, of which dominatrices fall into.

NO, NO, AND NO! Are you all men? NO, you're not! So don't say that all men pay for sex because

I won't. Which is why I didn't say "all men", I stated "men", in general, because its a general truism.

not all men pay for sex!

If its with a woman, the odds of there not being some variety of exchange for sex is virtually nil. Pretty much the only time that happens is via some variety of "drunk hook up", though occasional exception can be found. In either case, its far from the norm. This is why men are expected to pay for dates, and in general "court" a woman, so as to show her that he is capable of supporting her during pregnancy, and typically why women should be choosy about their partners: they have a lot more to risk than the male does... at least before influence of government.

That's pretty sexist and offensive! There are tons of women who pay for sex too.

And why do you suppose that is? Answer honestly.

Plus, NOT ALL MEN CARE ABOUT GOOD LOOKS! Implying that all men like sex is pretty sexist and f**ked up and I'm sure most people, at least most people who are RATIONAL human beings, unlike you, would agree with me!

If men didn't like sex, as a general truism, or didn't like good looks, as a general truism, you are welcome to explain current market trends, products geared with the intent of catching men's eye, etc. Pro tip: ulgy chaste women isn't going to do that.

The supply of female dominant sex is rare because the desire to do the work is virtually non existent, hence the price. On the flip side, 'male dominators' are virtually a dime a dozen, as its what most relationships on some level offer anyways.

Actually, female dominant sex isn't rare at all! There are TONS of supplies of female AND male dominant sex!

"Isn't rare at all", when compared to the entirety of sexual relationships ever? There is a reason such a pairing is considered "deviant" in nature, it flies in the face of the current trend. When you compare the pairings of men and women, as in all of them, honestly, what percentage of them do you think is going to be a female dominant dynamic vs a male dominant dynamic?

If you look at the statistics it's certainly not rare for women to be the dominant partner in a relationship.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

One in four is not the best of odds, and secondly, what women "want" is not at all reflective of what women will get or is available, or what they engage in.

Secondly, it would be interesting to see how many of those submissive men/dominant women pairings last.
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
http://www.debate.org...
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8/24/2016 10:17:09 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/24/2016 9:45:43 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
At 8/24/2016 9:35:22 PM, Chloe8 wrote:
At 8/22/2016 12:40:56 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
http://www.debate.org...



In short, women do. Obviously, not all the time, however look at the 'market place' for such sexual activity.

And in short, you are a moron. Some men and women might like being abused but not all women/men like being abused!

So, you didn't actually read my reply, did you? See the part that starts with "obviously", and has a phrase behind it?

Men pay for sex (or heavily compete for females) on a premium for 2 things- incredible looks or outside the norm talent, of which dominatrices fall into.

NO, NO, AND NO! Are you all men? NO, you're not! So don't say that all men pay for sex because

I won't. Which is why I didn't say "all men", I stated "men", in general, because its a general truism.

not all men pay for sex!

If its with a woman, the odds of there not being some variety of exchange for sex is virtually nil. Pretty much the only time that happens is via some variety of "drunk hook up", though occasional exception can be found. In either case, its far from the norm. This is why men are expected to pay for dates, and in general "court" a woman, so as to show her that he is capable of supporting her during pregnancy, and typically why women should be choosy about their partners: they have a lot more to risk than the male does... at least before influence of government.

That's pretty sexist and offensive! There are tons of women who pay for sex too.

And why do you suppose that is? Answer honestly.

Plus, NOT ALL MEN CARE ABOUT GOOD LOOKS! Implying that all men like sex is pretty sexist and f**ked up and I'm sure most people, at least most people who are RATIONAL human beings, unlike you, would agree with me!

If men didn't like sex, as a general truism, or didn't like good looks, as a general truism, you are welcome to explain current market trends, products geared with the intent of catching men's eye, etc. Pro tip: ulgy chaste women isn't going to do that.

The supply of female dominant sex is rare because the desire to do the work is virtually non existent, hence the price. On the flip side, 'male dominators' are virtually a dime a dozen, as its what most relationships on some level offer anyways.

Actually, female dominant sex isn't rare at all! There are TONS of supplies of female AND male dominant sex!

"Isn't rare at all", when compared to the entirety of sexual relationships ever? There is a reason such a pairing is considered "deviant" in nature, it flies in the face of the current trend. When you compare the pairings of men and women, as in all of them, honestly, what percentage of them do you think is going to be a female dominant dynamic vs a male dominant dynamic?

If you look at the statistics it's certainly not rare for women to be the dominant partner in a relationship.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

One in four is not the best of odds, and secondly, what women "want" is not at all reflective of what women will get or is available, or what they engage in.

Secondly, it would be interesting to see how many of those submissive men/dominant women pairings last.

One in four is certainly not rare. It shows it's extremely common for a woman to be the dominant partner in a relationship.

It would be interesting to know those stats but there is no reason to suggest these relationships don't last or women are forced into such relationships. There is nothing wrong with such relationships and as these stats show are more common than people think. Society expects men to be the dominant partner so your experiences are based on other couples putting on a front on what really goes on in their relationship.

Saying women desire submissive relationships is misguided. A significant percentage of women preferring such a relationship does not mean all women are inherently submissive and desire such relationships.
"I don't need experience.to knock you out. I'm a man. that's all I need to beat you and any woman."

Fatihah, in his delusion that he could knock out any woman while bragging about being able to knock me out. An example of 7th century Islamic thinking inspired by his hero the paedophile Muhammad.
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8/24/2016 10:57:06 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
http://www.debate.org...



In short, women do. Obviously, not all the time, however look at the 'market place' for such sexual activity.

And in short, you are a moron. Some men and women might like being abused but not all women/men like being abused!

So, you didn't actually read my reply, did you? See the part that starts with "obviously", and has a phrase behind it?

Men pay for sex (or heavily compete for females) on a premium for 2 things- incredible looks or outside the norm talent, of which dominatrices fall into.

NO, NO, AND NO! Are you all men? NO, you're not! So don't say that all men pay for sex because

I won't. Which is why I didn't say "all men", I stated "men", in general, because its a general truism.

not all men pay for sex!

If its with a woman, the odds of there not being some variety of exchange for sex is virtually nil. Pretty much the only time that happens is via some variety of "drunk hook up", though occasional exception can be found. In either case, its far from the norm. This is why men are expected to pay for dates, and in general "court" a woman, so as to show her that he is capable of supporting her during pregnancy, and typically why women should be choosy about their partners: they have a lot more to risk than the male does... at least before influence of government.

That's pretty sexist and offensive! There are tons of women who pay for sex too.

And why do you suppose that is? Answer honestly.

Plus, NOT ALL MEN CARE ABOUT GOOD LOOKS! Implying that all men like sex is pretty sexist and f**ked up and I'm sure most people, at least most people who are RATIONAL human beings, unlike you, would agree with me!

If men didn't like sex, as a general truism, or didn't like good looks, as a general truism, you are welcome to explain current market trends, products geared with the intent of catching men's eye, etc. Pro tip: ulgy chaste women isn't going to do that.

The supply of female dominant sex is rare because the desire to do the work is virtually non existent, hence the price. On the flip side, 'male dominators' are virtually a dime a dozen, as its what most relationships on some level offer anyways.

Actually, female dominant sex isn't rare at all! There are TONS of supplies of female AND male dominant sex!

"Isn't rare at all", when compared to the entirety of sexual relationships ever? There is a reason such a pairing is considered "deviant" in nature, it flies in the face of the current trend. When you compare the pairings of men and women, as in all of them, honestly, what percentage of them do you think is going to be a female dominant dynamic vs a male dominant dynamic?

If you look at the statistics it's certainly not rare for women to be the dominant partner in a relationship.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

One in four is not the best of odds, and secondly, what women "want" is not at all reflective of what women will get or is available, or what they engage in.

Secondly, it would be interesting to see how many of those submissive men/dominant women pairings last.

One in four is certainly not rare. It shows it's extremely common for a woman to be the dominant partner in a relationship.

How do you consider something that happens 25% of the time or less to be 'common' exactly? Wouldn't common be representative of a majority, not a 3 to 1 minority?

It would be interesting to know those stats but there is no reason to suggest these relationships don't last or women are forced into such relationships.

The reason would be that women are submissive in nature, belie that nature for assumed preference, and as such, sabotage the relationship. That, however, is personal conjecture from casual observance. It may or may not reflect large portions of the populace in question.

There is nothing wrong with such relationships and as these stats show are more common than people think. Society expects men to be the dominant partner so your experiences are based on other couples putting on a front on what really goes on in their relationship.

That, and being in said relationships where I was the submissive party. My relationships got more and more successful the less submissive and more assertive I became.

Saying women desire submissive relationships is misguided.

Apparently, 75% of the time is misguided. Your citation, and all.

A significant percentage of women preferring such a relationship does not mean all women are inherently submissive and desire such relationships.

It would if said relationships where the woman is the dominant partner fail by significant percentage. It would be a demonstration that the preferred dynamic is in-congruent to a working relationship.
Here we have an advocate for Islamic arranged marriages demonstrating that children can consent to sex.
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8/25/2016 9:50:10 PM
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At 8/24/2016 10:57:06 PM, FaustianJustice wrote:
I am in a debate with a moron who thinks that women "like to be dominated," tell me your thoughts on said- individual.
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In short, women do. Obviously, not all the time, however look at the 'market place' for such sexual activity.

And in short, you are a moron. Some men and women might like being abused but not all women/men like being abused!

So, you didn't actually read my reply, did you? See the part that starts with "obviously", and has a phrase behind it?

Men pay for sex (or heavily compete for females) on a premium for 2 things- incredible looks or outside the norm talent, of which dominatrices fall into.

NO, NO, AND NO! Are you all men? NO, you're not! So don't say that all men pay for sex because

I won't. Which is why I didn't say "all men", I stated "men", in general, because its a general truism.

not all men pay for sex!

If its with a woman, the odds of there not being some variety of exchange for sex is virtually nil. Pretty much the only time that happens is via some variety of "drunk hook up", though occasional exception can be found. In either case, its far from the norm. This is why men are expected to pay for dates, and in general "court" a woman, so as to show her that he is capable of supporting her during pregnancy, and typically why women should be choosy about their partners: they have a lot more to risk than the male does... at least before influence of government.

That's pretty sexist and offensive! There are tons of women who pay for sex too.

And why do you suppose that is? Answer honestly.

Plus, NOT ALL MEN CARE ABOUT GOOD LOOKS! Implying that all men like sex is pretty sexist and f**ked up and I'm sure most people, at least most people who are RATIONAL human beings, unlike you, would agree with me!

If men didn't like sex, as a general truism, or didn't like good looks, as a general truism, you are welcome to explain current market trends, products geared with the intent of catching men's eye, etc. Pro tip: ulgy chaste women isn't going to do that.

The supply of female dominant sex is rare because the desire to do the work is virtually non existent, hence the price. On the flip side, 'male dominators' are virtually a dime a dozen, as its what most relationships on some level offer anyways.

Actually, female dominant sex isn't rare at all! There are TONS of supplies of female AND male dominant sex!

"Isn't rare at all", when compared to the entirety of sexual relationships ever? There is a reason such a pairing is considered "deviant" in nature, it flies in the face of the current trend. When you compare the pairings of men and women, as in all of them, honestly, what percentage of them do you think is going to be a female dominant dynamic vs a male dominant dynamic?

If you look at the statistics it's certainly not rare for women to be the dominant partner in a relationship.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk...

One in four is not the best of odds, and secondly, what women "want" is not at all reflective of what women will get or is available, or what they engage in.

Secondly, it would be interesting to see how many of those submissive men/dominant women pairings last.

One in four is certainly not rare. It shows it's extremely common for a woman to be the dominant partner in a relationship.

How do you consider something that happens 25% of the time or less to be 'common' exactly? Wouldn't common be representative of a majority, not a 3 to 1 minority?

Something that happens 25% of the time is a common occurrence. Remember this is a statistic for female dominance in relationships. The other 75% of relationships are not all male dominated. Many would be equal partnerships. It's certainly an unfair and innacurate assessment to claim the vast majority of women desire submissive roles in relationships.

It would be interesting to know those stats but there is no reason to suggest these relationships don't last or women are forced into such relationships.

The reason would be that women are submissive in nature, belie that nature for assumed preference, and as such, sabotage the relationship. That, however, is personal conjecture from casual observance. It may or may not reflect large portions of the populace in question.

Exactly you base your assumptions on personal experience. It's likely you are subconsciously drawn to submissive women or women who desire submissive roles and have come to the conclusion that all women must want to be submissive. Women are not neccessarily submissive in nature. It's merely the women you have spent time with are submissive in nature.

There is nothing wrong with such relationships and as these stats show are more common than people think. Society expects men to be the dominant partner so your experiences are based on other couples putting on a front on what really goes on in their relationship.

That, and being in said relationships where I was the submissive party. My relationships got more and more successful the less submissive and more assertive I became.

That's because you were/ are drawn to submissive women. If you were drawn to dominant women they would have enjoyed your submission.

Saying women desire submissive relationships is misguided.

Apparently, 75% of the time is misguided. Your citation, and all.

The 75% is a combination of equal relationships and male dominated relationships.

A significant percentage of women preferring such a relationship does not mean all women are inherently submissive and desire such relationships.

It would if said relationships where the woman is the dominant partner fail by significant percentage. It would be a demonstration that the preferred dynamic is in-congruent to a working relationship.

Well that's merely an unsupported theory you have constructed without providing evidence backing up your claims.

Obviously if someone has a submissive nature they will be unsatisfied in relationships where their partner is also submissive. Relationships either need a dominant and a submissive or two equals to work effectively. If both are dominant or both are submissive it's not going to work. Pretending to be dominant or submissive will also result in the failure of the relationship.
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