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flamebreath
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1/13/2011 5:38:35 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Is some one really abandoned or isolated from the rest of the world or is it just their philosophical view of their situation.
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1/13/2011 7:18:23 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/13/2011 5:38:35 AM, flamebreath wrote:
Is some one really abandoned or isolated from the rest of the world or is it just their philosophical view of their situation.:

That all depends on the person and the situation.
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1/13/2011 10:47:29 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/13/2011 5:38:35 AM, flamebreath wrote:
Is some one really abandoned or isolated from the rest of the world or is it just their philosophical view of their situation.

Usually i think it's fear. It's easier and safer to keep people away, push them away, and not connect. No risks, and isolation and alienation can turn into an indulgence of the individual.
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1/14/2011 3:02:06 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/13/2011 10:47:29 AM, innomen wrote:
At 1/13/2011 5:38:35 AM, flamebreath wrote:
Is some one really abandoned or isolated from the rest of the world or is it just their philosophical view of their situation.

Usually i think it's fear. It's easier and safer to keep people away, push them away, and not connect. No risks, and isolation and alienation can turn into an indulgence of the individual.

This is simply the way you see it. in every case the person seems to "not care" and ignore it however; the person is also facing many psychological breakdowns.
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CosmicAlfonzo
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1/14/2011 4:22:44 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'm alienated and alone. Has nothing to do with the fact that I'm scared or anything.

Most relationships I have are superficial. It's very rare that I find someone who I can relate to on an emotional or intellectual level.

Though, the people around me fall in two main categories.. Those who are hooked on drugs and those who are hooked on Jesus.

The ones who are hooked on drugs tend to be self centered wankers who wouldn't think twice about stealing your sh!t and trying to get you involved in things that will send you to jail.

The ones who are hooked on Jesus are so fvcking obsessed with it that it is impossible to hold a conversation with them without them quoting scripture or trying to convert you or something.

Oh yeah, and nothing is more asinine than an "empathetic" Christian who brings up the fact that your parents are dead, and that you will meet them again in the afterlife if only you believed in Jesus.

Oh yeah, don't get me started on some of the girls I've dated. It seems like the girls I meet tend to be emotionally unstable monster b!tches who aren't happy unless I completely bend over for them and let them put me on a leash. It never works.

Yeah, it's probably me. I'm sure my life would be fine if I cut my hair, converted to Christianity, started wearing polo shirts and did everything my girl asked of me without question.. But I'm neither desperate enough, or a big enough of a wuss to do so.
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1/14/2011 4:25:49 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Don't get me wrong. Doesn't bug me too much. I am easily amused. I'm a grown man who laughs at stupid noises.
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1/14/2011 5:18:42 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/14/2011 4:31:24 PM, innomen wrote:
Sorry, should have included narcissists too.

You just jelly that I'm so sexy.

Even if you weren't talking about me, I totally think you are because I'm so vain. Did I mention that I'm sexy? I'm also awesome. I take my sexy awesomeness very serious. I'm also quite intelligent. In fact, I'm so intelligent that most people look like little monkeys to me, running around. Hey look, a banana little monkey! Go on, grab it! hah, silly monkey.

So, you are basically saying that people are alone for purely selfish reasons? Fear of rejection, of being taken advantage of, or because they are too self absorbed to connect?
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1/14/2011 5:21:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/14/2011 5:18:42 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
At 1/14/2011 4:31:24 PM, innomen wrote:
Sorry, should have included narcissists too.

You just jelly that I'm so sexy.

Even if you weren't talking about me, I totally think you are because I'm so vain. Did I mention that I'm sexy? I'm also awesome. I take my sexy awesomeness very serious. I'm also quite intelligent. In fact, I'm so intelligent that most people look like little monkeys to me, running around. Hey look, a banana little monkey! Go on, grab it! hah, silly monkey.

So, you are basically saying that people are alone for purely selfish reasons? Fear of rejection, of being taken advantage of, or because they are too self absorbed to connect?

Yep.
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1/14/2011 5:31:31 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Yeah, I suppose the world would be a better place if everyone just did what they were told, let bullies have their way with them, give whatever was asked of them, and do it all with a smile.

Hey Jesus taught us to do that, and he was a pretty righteous dude. He did it, and look where it got him....

...The right hand side of god.
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1/14/2011 7:40:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Aren't we ALL a little mentally ill?

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1/14/2011 8:05:41 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/14/2011 7:40:35 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Aren't we ALL a little mentally ill?

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Well the Mad Hatter says we are all insane so . . . YEAH ! ! !
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flamebreath
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1/14/2011 8:22:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/14/2011 7:40:35 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Aren't we ALL a little mentally ill?

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That doesn't include been isolated from others and in many cases it is the sole product of alienation
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1/14/2011 8:54:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
So, you are basically saying that people are alone for purely selfish reasons? Fear of rejection, of being taken advantage of, or because they are too self absorbed to connect?:

Quite possible in a lot of cases. Some people don't stick their dick out their for the fear of rejection, of being taken advantage of, or too self-absorbed. Of course, they'd never openly admit that to you, and they may not even be consciously aware of it to admit it to themselves.
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1/14/2011 8:59:13 PM
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I think they are perfectly valid points. I agree that people can be alone for selfish reasons.

However, I also think that people tend to group together for selfish reasons too.

For the record, I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with being selfish. Hell, I'm of the opinion that you have to have a degree of selfishness in order to find contentedness.

Sometimes the most selfless thing you can do is to be selfish, and the most selfish thing you can do is to be selfless.
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1/14/2011 9:04:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I don't think there is anything inherently wrong with being selfish.:

Nor do I, at least not in and of itself.
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1/14/2011 9:38:09 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/14/2011 8:54:46 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
So, you are basically saying that people are alone for purely selfish reasons? Fear of rejection, of being taken advantage of, or because they are too self absorbed to connect?:

Quite possible in a lot of cases. Some people don't stick their dick out their for the fear of rejection, of being taken advantage of, or too self-absorbed. Of course, they'd never openly admit that to you, and they may not even be consciously aware of it to admit it to themselves.

Maybe they try but are constantly rejected. It is not always the victims fault
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1/15/2011 3:42:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/14/2011 5:31:31 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Yeah, I suppose the world would be a better place if everyone just did what they were told, let bullies have their way with them, give whatever was asked of them, and do it all with a smile.

Hey Jesus taught us to do that, and he was a pretty righteous dude. He did it, and look where it got him....

...The right hand side of god.

If Jesus = god's right hand and Mohammed is god's left hand, which hand does god jerk off with?
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
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1/15/2011 3:45:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/15/2011 3:42:16 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 1/14/2011 5:31:31 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Yeah, I suppose the world would be a better place if everyone just did what they were told, let bullies have their way with them, give whatever was asked of them, and do it all with a smile.

Hey Jesus taught us to do that, and he was a pretty righteous dude. He did it, and look where it got him....

...The right hand side of god.

If Jesus = god's right hand and Mohammed is god's left hand,
Neither are neither.
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1/15/2011 3:57:59 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/15/2011 3:42:16 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 1/14/2011 5:31:31 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Yeah, I suppose the world would be a better place if everyone just did what they were told, let bullies have their way with them, give whatever was asked of them, and do it all with a smile.

Hey Jesus taught us to do that, and he was a pretty righteous dude. He did it, and look where it got him....

...The right hand side of god.

If Jesus = god's right hand and Mohammed is god's left hand, which hand does god jerk off with?

He doesn't. Shiva gives him blow jobs.
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1/15/2011 4:06:17 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/15/2011 3:57:59 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
At 1/15/2011 3:42:16 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 1/14/2011 5:31:31 PM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
Yeah, I suppose the world would be a better place if everyone just did what they were told, let bullies have their way with them, give whatever was asked of them, and do it all with a smile.

Hey Jesus taught us to do that, and he was a pretty righteous dude. He did it, and look where it got him....

...The right hand side of god.

If Jesus = god's right hand and Mohammed is god's left hand, which hand does god jerk off with?

He doesn't. Shiva gives him blow jobs.

Well, if she doesn't swallow, that might explain why the ocean is so salty...
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)