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Luddites and Neo-Luddites . . .

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1/16/2011 2:04:15 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
What do you think of those who promote Neo-Luddism . . . ? http://en.wikipedia.org...
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1/16/2011 2:08:26 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
It's always amused me that the term luddite is a perjorative, I recognise it as a great example of re-writing history for political ends.

The luddites were simply attempting to safeguard their own personal liberty and happiness. The 'progress' they were railing against representated a direct threat to them. It is simply a matter of perspective.

With the massive unemployment rates throughout the world their basic point has been vindicated.
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1/16/2011 2:08:37 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Against modern technology? Sounds like the Amish to me...
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1/16/2011 10:04:01 PM
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whatchoo smoking cereb? Employment would have to be near nonexistent to vindicate their point considering the degree of technological progress that has occurred.
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1/17/2011 10:29:43 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/16/2011 10:04:01 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
whatchoo smoking cereb? Employment would have to be near nonexistent to vindicate their point considering the degree of technological progress that has occurred.

How so?
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1/17/2011 12:06:56 PM
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At 1/17/2011 10:29:43 AM, Cerebral_Narcissist wrote:
At 1/16/2011 10:04:01 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
whatchoo smoking cereb? Employment would have to be near nonexistent to vindicate their point considering the degree of technological progress that has occurred.

How so?

Because it's a big degree, and yet there is very little change in unemployment to correlate with it.

Of course, economics would also have to be subject to empirical data (it's not, no controlled experiments), but it doesn't even fulfill the easier condition of having plausible data to back it.
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1/17/2011 12:20:07 PM
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The Luddites protested about the increasing mechanisation of farming in the 17th Century because it was making their jobs redundant – steam-powered threshers could do the jobs of dozens of men, for example.

In actual fact, mechanisation heralded the beginning of the Industrial Revolution in Britain (indeed, the world) and what actually happened was that farm labourers that had been made unemployed by machines migrated to fast-growing cities such as Birmingham, Manchester, Swansea and Newcastle (which had been no more than villages a few years earlier) and found work in the factories there.

At the end of the day, you can't stand in the way of progress: over recent years, many jobs have been lost as the result of advanced computers and the advent of the Internet, but, at the same time, computers and the Web have created many new jobs.

People need to adapt their skills in order to take advantage of the jobs available rather than moan about technology making their roles obsolete.
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