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1/17/2011 5:06:57 PM
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At 1/17/2011 5:00:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Discuss MLK jr.

Everytime I saw MLK Day as a kid I thought it said MILK day.
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1/17/2011 5:10:29 PM
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Dirty socialist.

But had impeccable timing at showing up and doing more good than harm.
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1/17/2011 5:13:09 PM
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At 1/17/2011 5:10:29 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
But had impeccable timing at showing up and doing more good than harm.

wow, that sounded like a forced compliment.
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1/17/2011 5:17:41 PM
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1/17/2011 5:38:01 PM
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1/17/2011 5:43:38 PM
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1/17/2011 6:34:39 PM
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1/17/2011 6:45:33 PM
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At 1/17/2011 5:00:18 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Discuss MLK jr.:

Well, he was a plagiarist and a socialist, but other than that he was a stand-up guy.
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1/17/2011 7:48:36 PM
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1/17/2011 9:20:18 PM
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I think he was a pretty righteous dude, and did more to help raise awareness of and sympathy for the black man's plight than just about anyone.
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1/18/2011 10:37:15 PM
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I find it kind of funny that everyone called MLK day a black person's holiday when he was argueing for equality amongst all men. At least that's what I got from his speech we had to read in english last year.
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1/18/2011 11:33:18 PM
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At 1/18/2011 10:37:15 PM, ruelariat wrote:
I find it kind of funny that everyone called MLK day a black person's holiday when he was argueing for equality amongst all men.

Do you mean anything by the phrase "equality amongst all men" other than "look at me, I think how I'm told?" Just curious.
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1/18/2011 11:52:07 PM
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At 1/18/2011 10:37:15 PM, ruelariat wrote:
I find it kind of funny that everyone called MLK day a black person's holiday when he was argueing for equality amongst all men. At least that's what I got from his speech we had to read in english last year.

Well, you know what, you are right.

But in America, colored folks were the ones who were legally discriminated against at the time, so it's an easy thing to say.

But don't get me wrong, you are totally right.
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1/20/2011 9:08:51 AM
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I don't think MLK being a socialist does anything to discredit his achievements. While plagiarizing his doctorate was certainly not an admirable thing to do, at the end of the day he was just human like you, myself and everybody else -- a human being who made mistakes like every one of us, and yet fought harder than anyone before or since then to achieve something great. If highlighting his mistakes makes you feel better about your own lack of achievement (in comparison to his monumental ones), or if you think mentioning his political affiliation is actually a relevant talking point (instead of just another reason to discredit or belittle him) then okay go for it. You might also not wanna forget that he allegedly used a lot of hookers and beat his wife if that's your goal (I'm not sure if it's true, but there's a Snopes article on it I think). Personally I much appreciate his day off and can accept it far easier than Columbus Day *shudder*
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1/20/2011 9:10:17 AM
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At 1/20/2011 8:52:30 AM, Caramel wrote:
So he was a plagiarist socialist who just happened to cause more good than harm because of his timing. Gotcha.:

Just pointing out that he wasn't a saint. I have a ton of respect for what he did, but he's not infallible. People tend to unwittingly place an almost God-like status on people such as, but not limited to, the Dali Lama, Mother Theresa, and Ghandi. Their otherwise untarnished records include pedophilia, racism, and masochism.

That said, it doesn't overshadow the good that he did do. In my mind he was leaps and bounds better than Malcolm X.
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1/20/2011 9:24:49 AM
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At 1/20/2011 9:08:51 AM, theLwerd wrote:
I don't think MLK being a socialist does anything to discredit his achievements. While plagiarizing his doctorate was certainly not an admirable thing to do, at the end of the day he was just human like you, myself and everybody else -- a human being who made mistakes like every one of us, and yet fought harder than anyone before or since then to achieve something great. If highlighting his mistakes makes you feel better about your own lack of achievement (in comparison to his monumental ones), or if you think mentioning his political affiliation is actually a relevant talking point (instead of just another reason to discredit or belittle him) then okay go for it.

This. (I find it funny that most people here like insulting people who are good people and honoring less honorable people)

You might also not wanna forget that he allegedly used a lot of hookers and beat his wife if that's your goal (I'm not sure if it's true, but there's a Snopes article on it I think).

I never heard that lol.

Personally I much appreciate his day off and can accept it far easier than Columbus Day *shudder*

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1/20/2011 10:18:06 AM
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DDO's contribution to the legacy of MLK:

references to socialism (derogatory): III

references to serendipity as a driving factor to his success: I

references to plagiarism: II

acknowledgments of greatness: III

dis-acknowledgments of greatness: I

references to violence and sexual deviance: I
no comment
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1/20/2011 10:33:32 AM
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At 1/20/2011 10:18:06 AM, Caramel wrote:
DDO's contribution to the legacy of MLK:

references to socialism (derogatory): III

references to serendipity as a driving factor to his success: I

references to plagiarism: II

acknowledgments of greatness: III

dis-acknowledgments of greatness: I

references to violence and sexual deviance: I:

Please don't forget that I threw Mother Theresa, Ghandi, Malcolm X, and the Dalai Lama under the bus too
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