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Stymie13
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10/25/2016 7:41:08 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
in today's hypersensitive society, so charged with divisive or derisive (thanks Barack-Cairo 09) should we change to:

From black, bypass AA, and go to ADA: African descended American
From white, bypass Caucasian, and go to ENAMEDA: euro, North African, Middle East descended American
From Asian, bypass Asian, and go to EADA, East Asian descended American
From Indian/Pakistani/afghani, and go to SADA, south Asian descended American
From Hispanic, bypass, go to HADA, Hispanic Descended American
From Native American to First Nationer (including Hawaiians)
From Pacific Islander, bypass, to PIDA, Pacific Island Descended American

Note: I split Hispanic from ENAMEDA because I was filling out my EEO form and they did.
kevin24018
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10/25/2016 7:49:05 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/25/2016 7:41:08 PM, Stymie13 wrote:
in today's hypersensitive society, so charged with divisive or derisive (thanks Barack-Cairo 09) should we change to:

From black, bypass AA, and go to ADA: African descended American
From white, bypass Caucasian, and go to ENAMEDA: euro, North African, Middle East descended American
From Asian, bypass Asian, and go to EADA, East Asian descended American
From Indian/Pakistani/afghani, and go to SADA, south Asian descended American
From Hispanic, bypass, go to HADA, Hispanic Descended American
From Native American to First Nationer (including Hawaiians)
From Pacific Islander, bypass, to PIDA, Pacific Island Descended American

Note: I split Hispanic from ENAMEDA because I was filling out my EEO form and they did.

well you have Jamaicans and the Aboriginal people as a couple of examples, doesn't mean they do or do not have African descent, however they all look black in general. Then Zimmerman the first white Hispanic. How about South Africa? White African? the combinations ugh.
Stymie13
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10/25/2016 7:52:35 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/25/2016 7:49:05 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/25/2016 7:41:08 PM, Stymie13 wrote:
in today's hypersensitive society, so charged with divisive or derisive (thanks Barack-Cairo 09) should we change to:

From black, bypass AA, and go to ADA: African descended American
From white, bypass Caucasian, and go to ENAMEDA: euro, North African, Middle East descended American
From Asian, bypass Asian, and go to EADA, East Asian descended American
From Indian/Pakistani/afghani, and go to SADA, south Asian descended American
From Hispanic, bypass, go to HADA, Hispanic Descended American
From Native American to First Nationer (including Hawaiians)
From Pacific Islander, bypass, to PIDA, Pacific Island Descended American

Note: I split Hispanic from ENAMEDA because I was filling out my EEO form and they did.

well you have Jamaicans and the Aboriginal people as a couple of examples, doesn't mean they do or do not have African descent, however they all look black in general. Then Zimmerman the first white Hispanic. How about South Africa? White African? the combinations ugh.

Cursory list. Feel free to add! The more labels and divisions the better!
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10/25/2016 7:58:22 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/25/2016 7:41:08 PM, Stymie13 wrote:
in today's hypersensitive society, so charged with divisive or derisive (thanks Barack-Cairo 09) should we change to:

From black, bypass AA, and go to ADA: African descended American
From white, bypass Caucasian, and go to ENAMEDA: euro, North African, Middle East descended American
From Asian, bypass Asian, and go to EADA, East Asian descended American
From Indian/Pakistani/afghani, and go to SADA, south Asian descended American
From Hispanic, bypass, go to HADA, Hispanic Descended American
From Native American to First Nationer (including Hawaiians)
From Pacific Islander, bypass, to PIDA, Pacific Island Descended American

Note: I split Hispanic from ENAMEDA because I was filling out my EEO form and they did.

Not bad. I think white people would never agree to be refereed to as African though. Well, a large portion at least. I fear catering too much people sensitives though. I dont really care what you call me, long as you pay me the same.
Stymie13
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10/25/2016 8:02:42 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/25/2016 7:58:22 PM, Df0512 wrote:
At 10/25/2016 7:41:08 PM, Stymie13 wrote:
in today's hypersensitive society, so charged with divisive or derisive (thanks Barack-Cairo 09) should we change to:

From black, bypass AA, and go to ADA: African descended American
From white, bypass Caucasian, and go to ENAMEDA: euro, North African, Middle East descended American
From Asian, bypass Asian, and go to EADA, East Asian descended American
From Indian/Pakistani/afghani, and go to SADA, south Asian descended American
From Hispanic, bypass, go to HADA, Hispanic Descended American
From Native American to First Nationer (including Hawaiians)
From Pacific Islander, bypass, to PIDA, Pacific Island Descended American

Note: I split Hispanic from ENAMEDA because I was filling out my EEO form and they did.

Not bad. I think white people would never agree to be refereed to as African though. Well, a large portion at least. I fear catering too much people sensitives though. I dont really care what you call me, long as you pay me the same.
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Census dept groups euro, me, na as caucasians currently . They are thinking of distincting NA/ME for 2020
kevin24018
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10/25/2016 8:12:50 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/25/2016 7:58:22 PM, Df0512 wrote:
At 10/25/2016 7:41:08 PM, Stymie13 wrote:
in today's hypersensitive society, so charged with divisive or derisive (thanks Barack-Cairo 09) should we change to:

From black, bypass AA, and go to ADA: African descended American
From white, bypass Caucasian, and go to ENAMEDA: euro, North African, Middle East descended American
From Asian, bypass Asian, and go to EADA, East Asian descended American
From Indian/Pakistani/afghani, and go to SADA, south Asian descended American
From Hispanic, bypass, go to HADA, Hispanic Descended American
From Native American to First Nationer (including Hawaiians)
From Pacific Islander, bypass, to PIDA, Pacific Island Descended American

Note: I split Hispanic from ENAMEDA because I was filling out my EEO form and they did.

Not bad. I think white people would never agree to be refereed to as African though. Well, a large portion at least. I fear catering too much people sensitives though. I dont really care what you call me, long as you pay me the same.

ah but like the thread, how much white or black does one need to be to identify as that or any other race for that matter? who determines and can or could it ever change. Is there a non-binary(made up term) equivalent for race?
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10/25/2016 9:08:39 PM
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U.S. Census data should stop taking data on "race". Nationality should suffice.
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10/26/2016 1:29:00 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/25/2016 9:08:39 PM, Vox_Veritas wrote:
U.S. Census data should stop taking data on "race". Nationality should suffice.

Agreed. Its spending money on research so they can figure out how to waste my tax dollars with highest efficiency possible.
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10/26/2016 1:31:13 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/25/2016 7:41:08 PM, Stymie13 wrote:
in today's hypersensitive society, so charged with divisive or derisive (thanks Barack-Cairo 09) should we change to:

From black, bypass AA, and go to ADA: African descended American
From white, bypass Caucasian, and go to ENAMEDA: euro, North African, Middle East descended American
From Asian, bypass Asian, and go to EADA, East Asian descended American
From Indian/Pakistani/afghani, and go to SADA, south Asian descended American
From Hispanic, bypass, go to HADA, Hispanic Descended American
From Native American to First Nationer (including Hawaiians)
From Pacific Islander, bypass, to PIDA, Pacific Island Descended American

Note: I split Hispanic from ENAMEDA because I was filling out my EEO form and they did.

From a person who grew up with heavy influence from government employees, the acronyms are very appealing.
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Quadrunner
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10/26/2016 1:34:57 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/25/2016 7:41:08 PM, Stymie13 wrote:
in today's hypersensitive society, so charged with divisive or derisive (thanks Barack-Cairo 09) should we change to:

From black, bypass AA, and go to ADA: African descended American
From white, bypass Caucasian, and go to ENAMEDA: euro, North African, Middle East descended American
From Asian, bypass Asian, and go to EADA, East Asian descended American
From Indian/Pakistani/afghani, and go to SADA, south Asian descended American
From Hispanic, bypass, go to HADA, Hispanic Descended American
From Native American to First Nationer (including Hawaiians)
From Pacific Islander, bypass, to PIDA, Pacific Island Descended American

Note: I split Hispanic from ENAMEDA because I was filling out my EEO form and they did.

On a side semi-serious but not overly caring take it or leave it type note, the wider encompassing things like black, white, asian, native american, pacific islander etc....are to widely encompassing to be truly useful for anything but political pandering. There is no reason to keep using them that I can think of except for the political advantage of making a wider number of people feel special because they were addressed "specifically".
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Stymie13
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10/26/2016 1:36:29 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/25/2016 8:12:50 PM, kevin24018 wrote:
At 10/25/2016 7:58:22 PM, Df0512 wrote:
At 10/25/2016 7:41:08 PM, Stymie13 wrote:
in today's hypersensitive society, so charged with divisive or derisive (thanks Barack-Cairo 09) should we change to:

From black, bypass AA, and go to ADA: African descended American
From white, bypass Caucasian, and go to ENAMEDA: euro, North African, Middle East descended American
From Asian, bypass Asian, and go to EADA, East Asian descended American
From Indian/Pakistani/afghani, and go to SADA, south Asian descended American
From Hispanic, bypass, go to HADA, Hispanic Descended American
From Native American to First Nationer (including Hawaiians)
From Pacific Islander, bypass, to PIDA, Pacific Island Descended American

Note: I split Hispanic from ENAMEDA because I was filling out my EEO form and they did.

Not bad. I think white people would never agree to be refereed to as African though. Well, a large portion at least. I fear catering too much people sensitives though. I dont really care what you call me, long as you pay me the same.

ah but like the thread, how much white or black does one need to be to identify as that or any other race for that matter? who determines and can or could it ever change. Is there a non-binary(made up term) equivalent for race?

Remember open thread! Feel free to add acronym... as the OP, for multiethnic complexity..., bypass bi-multiracial, add MECDA: Multi-ethnic complex Descendent American

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Stymie13
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10/26/2016 1:38:57 AM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/26/2016 1:34:57 AM, Quadrunner wrote:
At 10/25/2016 7:41:08 PM, Stymie13 wrote:
in today's hypersensitive society, so charged with divisive or derisive (thanks Barack-Cairo 09) should we change to:

From black, bypass AA, and go to ADA: African descended American
From white, bypass Caucasian, and go to ENAMEDA: euro, North African, Middle East descended American
From Asian, bypass Asian, and go to EADA, East Asian descended American
From Indian/Pakistani/afghani, and go to SADA, south Asian descended American
From Hispanic, bypass, go to HADA, Hispanic Descended American
From Native American to First Nationer (including Hawaiians)
From Pacific Islander, bypass, to PIDA, Pacific Island Descended American

Note: I split Hispanic from ENAMEDA because I was filling out my EEO form and they did.

On a side semi-serious but not overly caring take it or leave it type note, the wider encompassing things like black, white, asian, native american, pacific islander etc....are to widely encompassing to be truly useful for anything but political pandering. There is no reason to keep using them that I can think of except for the political advantage of making a wider number of people feel special because they were addressed "specifically".

I agree hence the snarky jab at 'labelists' (see, another one).

As far as your acronym comment, from military to healthcare... MAUDA: Multi-Acronomic Utilization Descendent American