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Welfare-Worker
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10/27/2016 3:51:46 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
So one of our local libraries is an early voting site.
There is a library staff security guard, who is a full time employee. There are times when patrons become unruly, homeless may become disruptive. Small incidents, but they have professional staff to handle such things.

I stopped to talk to the security guard, who was inside the library, where the books are, not the community space where the voting was.
He said he was told by the voting staff that his presence near the voting area was not wanted - he might be intimidating the voters.
Now this guy is a teddy bear, the way he looks, the way he interacts, just a nice guy.
About 5'8" and 200 pounds.
He does wear a uniform shirt, white with a "security" patch on the sleeve, and cargo pants that are uniform-ish.
I suppose he resembles a cop.

Two days earlier they had someone electioneering, which is illegal, and the security guard has to escort him off the grounds. So, there is a need for such a staff person.
But now they decided he was an impediment to a free society.

If it makes any difference to anyone, he is black.
He was in disbelief, as was I.
Things are just upside down.
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10/27/2016 4:25:27 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/27/2016 3:51:46 PM, Welfare-Worker wrote:
So one of our local libraries is an early voting site.
There is a library staff security guard, who is a full time employee. There are times when patrons become unruly, homeless may become disruptive. Small incidents, but they have professional staff to handle such things.

I stopped to talk to the security guard, who was inside the library, where the books are, not the community space where the voting was.
He said he was told by the voting staff that his presence near the voting area was not wanted - he might be intimidating the voters.
Now this guy is a teddy bear, the way he looks, the way he interacts, just a nice guy.
About 5'8" and 200 pounds.
He does wear a uniform shirt, white with a "security" patch on the sleeve, and cargo pants that are uniform-ish.
I suppose he resembles a cop.

Two days earlier they had someone electioneering, which is illegal, and the security guard has to escort him off the grounds. So, there is a need for such a staff person.
But now they decided he was an impediment to a free society.

If it makes any difference to anyone, he is black.
He was in disbelief, as was I.
Things are just upside down.

You need a man like that guarding the books at all times. HIS all good where he is. He should know this.
You know the types that haunt the libraries. It can turn to pure chaos, ugly in seconds. Thanks to him that library has not had one single overdue book in a good 6 months.
The big fella is a valid part of the library team. if he keeps it up without questioning it. He'll be in charge of the mini mall in under 1 year. $$$$. Playing the race card now over this little thing , will be a bad move on his part. He knows this but. I'M sure.
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10/27/2016 4:39:30 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/27/2016 4:25:27 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 10/27/2016 3:51:46 PM, Welfare-Worker wrote:
So one of our local libraries is an early voting site.
There is a library staff security guard, who is a full time employee. There are times when patrons become unruly, homeless may become disruptive. Small incidents, but they have professional staff to handle such things.

I stopped to talk to the security guard, who was inside the library, where the books are, not the community space where the voting was.
He said he was told by the voting staff that his presence near the voting area was not wanted - he might be intimidating the voters.
Now this guy is a teddy bear, the way he looks, the way he interacts, just a nice guy.
About 5'8" and 200 pounds.
He does wear a uniform shirt, white with a "security" patch on the sleeve, and cargo pants that are uniform-ish.
I suppose he resembles a cop.

Two days earlier they had someone electioneering, which is illegal, and the security guard has to escort him off the grounds. So, there is a need for such a staff person.
But now they decided he was an impediment to a free society.

If it makes any difference to anyone, he is black.
He was in disbelief, as was I.
Things are just upside down.

You need a man like that guarding the books at all times. HIS all good where he is. He should know this.
You know the types that haunt the libraries. It can turn to pure chaos, ugly in seconds. Thanks to him that library has not had one single overdue book in a good 6 months.
The big fella is a valid part of the library team. if he keeps it up without questioning it. He'll be in charge of the mini mall in under 1 year. $$$$. Playing the race card now over this little thing , will be a bad move on his part. He knows this but. I'M sure.
I'm not sure if I catch your drift, he has not considered playing any race card.

Metro libraries have security issues, for staff.
It has nothing to do with books.

You are off on some crazy tangent that does not exist.
keithprosser
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10/27/2016 5:39:57 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
We need to know why the voting staff think his presence might intimidate voters. Is it possible voters think he might be 'taking note' of voters and votes, and if so on whose behalf? Don't American voters trust the concept of 'secret ballot'?

I have spent more than 1/2 my life in the 3rd world and I think that if people think that the presence of a single innocuous security guard is intimidating they ain't seen nothing like real voter intimidation as it happen in Zimbabwe and other African countries!
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10/27/2016 5:46:12 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/27/2016 4:39:30 PM, Welfare-Worker wrote:
At 10/27/2016 4:25:27 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 10/27/2016 3:51:46 PM, Welfare-Worker wrote:
So one of our local libraries is an early voting site.
There is a library staff security guard, who is a full time employee. There are times when patrons become unruly, homeless may become disruptive. Small incidents, but they have professional staff to handle such things.

I stopped to talk to the security guard, who was inside the library, where the books are, not the community space where the voting was.
He said he was told by the voting staff that his presence near the voting area was not wanted - he might be intimidating the voters.
Now this guy is a teddy bear, the way he looks, the way he interacts, just a nice guy.
About 5'8" and 200 pounds.
He does wear a uniform shirt, white with a "security" patch on the sleeve, and cargo pants that are uniform-ish.
I suppose he resembles a cop.

Two days earlier they had someone electioneering, which is illegal, and the security guard has to escort him off the grounds. So, there is a need for such a staff person.
But now they decided he was an impediment to a free society.

If it makes any difference to anyone, he is black.
He was in disbelief, as was I.
Things are just upside down.

You need a man like that guarding the books at all times. HIS all good where he is. He should know this.
You know the types that haunt the libraries. It can turn to pure chaos, ugly in seconds. Thanks to him that library has not had one single overdue book in a good 6 months.
The big fella is a valid part of the library team. if he keeps it up without questioning it. He'll be in charge of the mini mall in under 1 year. $$$$. Playing the race card now over this little thing , will be a bad move on his part. He knows this but. I'M sure.
I'm not sure if I catch your drift, he has not considered playing any race card.

Metro libraries have security issues, for staff.
It has nothing to do with books.


You are off on some crazy tangent that does not exist.

It has everything to do with the books.
The lawlessness that would occur if he wasn't there watching over the books is unthinkable, unimaginable
I mean you'd have people dog earing pages willy nilly. People putting Sci- fi, in with the fiction.
Picture this if you will.
You head on down to the library to finish of a report that's due in 4 days.
You go to the section that contains all the information on flamingos and in umongst this section you spot a muscle car magazine.
It's chaos like this that could occur if he wasn't ever present amongst the books.
Plus he looks after and feeds the microfiche.
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10/27/2016 6:00:12 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/27/2016 3:51:46 PM, Welfare-Worker wrote:
So one of our local libraries is an early voting site.
There is a library staff security guard, who is a full time employee. There are times when patrons become unruly, homeless may become disruptive. Small incidents, but they have professional staff to handle such things.

I stopped to talk to the security guard, who was inside the library, where the books are, not the community space where the voting was.
He said he was told by the voting staff that his presence near the voting area was not wanted - he might be intimidating the voters.
Now this guy is a teddy bear, the way he looks, the way he interacts, just a nice guy.
About 5'8" and 200 pounds.
He does wear a uniform shirt, white with a "security" patch on the sleeve, and cargo pants that are uniform-ish.
I suppose he resembles a cop.

Two days earlier they had someone electioneering, which is illegal, and the security guard has to escort him off the grounds. So, there is a need for such a staff person.
But now they decided he was an impediment to a free society.

If it makes any difference to anyone, he is black.
He was in disbelief, as was I.
Things are just upside down.

I sometimes listen to a radio station on the way to school (since most stations aren't playing music that I like in the early mornings), and one guy in their 5-person cast said that, after several months of being undecided, he was *thinking* of voting for Clinton. He announced this less than a week ago, and not even as an announcement, but just as a passing comment. Since then, he says he's received many emails of people saying they can't believe the radio station is voting for Clinton, that they won't listen to their station anymore, and a few death threats. Even some of the other people on the show, one of whom said he would vote for Trump, are getting emails about it.

I've stopped caring about who wins at this point, but it's sad to hear that people are actually acting this way when they hear someone is voting for the person they don't support.
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10/27/2016 8:48:13 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/27/2016 6:00:12 PM, Vaarka wrote:
At 10/27/2016 3:51:46 PM, Welfare-Worker wrote:
So one of our local libraries is an early voting site.
There is a library staff security guard, who is a full time employee. There are times when patrons become unruly, homeless may become disruptive. Small incidents, but they have professional staff to handle such things.

I stopped to talk to the security guard, who was inside the library, where the books are, not the community space where the voting was.
He said he was told by the voting staff that his presence near the voting area was not wanted - he might be intimidating the voters.
Now this guy is a teddy bear, the way he looks, the way he interacts, just a nice guy.
About 5'8" and 200 pounds.
He does wear a uniform shirt, white with a "security" patch on the sleeve, and cargo pants that are uniform-ish.
I suppose he resembles a cop.

Two days earlier they had someone electioneering, which is illegal, and the security guard has to escort him off the grounds. So, there is a need for such a staff person.
But now they decided he was an impediment to a free society.

If it makes any difference to anyone, he is black.
He was in disbelief, as was I.
Things are just upside down.

I sometimes listen to a radio station on the way to school (since most stations aren't playing music that I like in the early mornings), and one guy in their 5-person cast said that, after several months of being undecided, he was *thinking* of voting for Clinton. He announced this less than a week ago, and not even as an announcement, but just as a passing comment. Since then, he says he's received many emails of people saying they can't believe the radio station is voting for Clinton, that they won't listen to their station anymore, and a few death threats. Even some of the other people on the show, one of whom said he would vote for Trump, are getting emails about it.

I've stopped caring about who wins at this point, but it's sad to hear that people are actually acting this way when they hear someone is voting for the person they don't support.

I know! Take your frustration out on alcohol. Much healthier
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10/27/2016 9:42:21 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/27/2016 5:46:12 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 10/27/2016 4:39:30 PM, Welfare-Worker wrote:
At 10/27/2016 4:25:27 PM, Deb-8-A-Bull wrote:
At 10/27/2016 3:51:46 PM, Welfare-Worker wrote:
So one of our local libraries is an early voting site.
There is a library staff security guard, who is a full time employee. There are times when patrons become unruly, homeless may become disruptive. Small incidents, but they have professional staff to handle such things.

I stopped to talk to the security guard, who was inside the library, where the books are, not the community space where the voting was.
He said he was told by the voting staff that his presence near the voting area was not wanted - he might be intimidating the voters.
Now this guy is a teddy bear, the way he looks, the way he interacts, just a nice guy.
About 5'8" and 200 pounds.
He does wear a uniform shirt, white with a "security" patch on the sleeve, and cargo pants that are uniform-ish.
I suppose he resembles a cop.

Two days earlier they had someone electioneering, which is illegal, and the security guard has to escort him off the grounds. So, there is a need for such a staff person.
But now they decided he was an impediment to a free society.

If it makes any difference to anyone, he is black.
He was in disbelief, as was I.
Things are just upside down.

You need a man like that guarding the books at all times. HIS all good where he is. He should know this.
You know the types that haunt the libraries. It can turn to pure chaos, ugly in seconds. Thanks to him that library has not had one single overdue book in a good 6 months.
The big fella is a valid part of the library team. if he keeps it up without questioning it. He'll be in charge of the mini mall in under 1 year. $$$$. Playing the race card now over this little thing , will be a bad move on his part. He knows this but. I'M sure.
I'm not sure if I catch your drift, he has not considered playing any race card.

Metro libraries have security issues, for staff.
It has nothing to do with books.


You are off on some crazy tangent that does not exist.

It has everything to do with the books.
The lawlessness that would occur if he wasn't there watching over the books is unthinkable, unimaginable
I mean you'd have people dog earing pages willy nilly. People putting Sci- fi, in with the fiction.
Picture this if you will.
You head on down to the library to finish of a report that's due in 4 days.
You go to the section that contains all the information on flamingos and in umongst this section you spot a muscle car magazine.
It's chaos like this that could occur if he wasn't ever present amongst the books.
Plus he looks after and feeds the microfiche.

Microfiche?
This is a modern day library.
Never mind.
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10/27/2016 10:36:04 PM
Posted: 1 month ago
At 10/27/2016 3:51:46 PM, Welfare-Worker wrote:
So one of our local libraries is an early voting site.
There is a library staff security guard, who is a full time employee. There are times when patrons become unruly, homeless may become disruptive. Small incidents, but they have professional staff to handle such things.

I stopped to talk to the security guard, who was inside the library, where the books are, not the community space where the voting was.
He said he was told by the voting staff that his presence near the voting area was not wanted - he might be intimidating the voters.
Now this guy is a teddy bear, the way he looks, the way he interacts, just a nice guy.
About 5'8" and 200 pounds.
He does wear a uniform shirt, white with a "security" patch on the sleeve, and cargo pants that are uniform-ish.
I suppose he resembles a cop.

Two days earlier they had someone electioneering, which is illegal, and the security guard has to escort him off the grounds. So, there is a need for such a staff person.
But now they decided he was an impediment to a free society.

If it makes any difference to anyone, he is black.
He was in disbelief, as was I.
Things are just upside down.

Just curious, which city do you reside?