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1/20/2011 8:08:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
...are legal
But if you pay them its illegal.

Seems to me like there is an issue with that.

Someone helps you out, you help them back, all is fair, and no one is seriously hurt.
Not more so than if she hadn't been paid. And by getting money for it, she is helped alot more.

I don't see the logic in prostitution being illegal. If we tax it (same rate that we tax bread) I guarantee our national debt will be gone in 10 years. j/s (okay so I don't know the real math but you get my point)
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1/20/2011 8:10:04 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
well except like texas where they don't tax food, then tax it like cigs.
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1/20/2011 8:10:32 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/20/2011 8:08:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
...are legal
But if you pay them its illegal.

Seems to me like there is an issue with that.

Someone helps you out, you help them back, all is fair, and no one is seriously hurt.
Not more so than if she hadn't been paid. And by getting money for it, she is helped alot more.

I don't see the logic in prostitution being illegal. If we tax it (same rate that we tax bread) I guarantee our national debt will be gone in 10 years. j/s (okay so I don't know the real math but you get my point)

Sell a 10 cent pen for $50, and give sex for free. Problem solved.
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1/20/2011 8:11:32 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/20/2011 8:08:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
...are legal
But if you pay them its illegal.

Seems to me like there is an issue with that.

Someone helps you out, you help them back, all is fair, and no one is seriously hurt.
Not more so than if she hadn't been paid. And by getting money for it, she is helped alot more.

I don't see the logic in prostitution being illegal. If we tax it (same rate that we tax bread) I guarantee our national debt will be gone in 10 years. j/s (okay so I don't know the real math but you get my point)

it is legal in some places but i believe the city or county can't have more a certain amount of people living it. It's still frowned upon because people believe if its legal every woman would want to be a hooker
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1/20/2011 8:16:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/20/2011 8:08:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
...are legal
But if you pay them its illegal.

Seems to me like there is an issue with that.

Someone helps you out, you help them back, all is fair, and no one is seriously hurt.
Not more so than if she hadn't been paid. And by getting money for it, she is helped alot more.

The object is to not encourage it (not saying that is right or working).


I don't see the logic in prostitution being illegal. If we tax it (same rate that we tax bread) I guarantee our national debt will be gone in 10 years. j/s (okay so I don't know the real math but you get my point)

You're kidding right? You "guarantee" that the debt will be gone? Let's see, we are currently something like $1.5 trillion deficit, plus the $1.3 trillion that would be needed annually to clear up the debt in 10 years. So that means that we need $2.8 per year. If we are taxing at an average rate of, say 25% (some pay more or less, depending on how much they are working). That means that the industry needs to be making about $11.2 trillion a year. If a 1 hour "session" costs around $50, that is over 200 billion session per year, or ever adult in the US having a prostitute about 3 times per day, every day, including sundays.

We'd die from AIDS and various other stds in months.
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1/20/2011 8:23:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/20/2011 8:11:32 PM, MarquisX wrote:
At 1/20/2011 8:08:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
...are legal
But if you pay them its illegal.

Seems to me like there is an issue with that.

Someone helps you out, you help them back, all is fair, and no one is seriously hurt.
Not more so than if she hadn't been paid. And by getting money for it, she is helped alot more.

I don't see the logic in prostitution being illegal. If we tax it (same rate that we tax bread) I guarantee our national debt will be gone in 10 years. j/s (okay so I don't know the real math but you get my point)

it is legal in some places but i believe the city or county can't have more a certain amount of people living it. It's still frowned upon because people believe if its legal every woman would want to be a hooker

That is about as retarded as saying that if we allow teaching to be legal every(body)
pedophile will be a teacher! HELLO! PREACHING is an option too....and much easier to explain the...alone time between you jimmy and god.

Okay so most of that was a joke, but the point is taken (only the bold is serious and is the only part that should be thought about)
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1/20/2011 8:29:04 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/20/2011 8:16:43 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 1/20/2011 8:08:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
...are legal
But if you pay them its illegal.

Seems to me like there is an issue with that.

Someone helps you out, you help them back, all is fair, and no one is seriously hurt.
Not more so than if she hadn't been paid. And by getting money for it, she is helped alot more.

The object is to not encourage it (not saying that is right or working).


I don't see the logic in prostitution being illegal. If we tax it (same rate that we tax bread) I guarantee our national debt will be gone in 10 years. j/s (okay so I don't know the real math but you get my point)

You're kidding right? You "guarantee" that the debt will be gone? Let's see, we are currently something like $1.5 trillion deficit, plus the $1.3 trillion that would be needed annually to clear up the debt in 10 years. So that means that we need $2.8 per year. If we are taxing at an average rate of, say 25% (some pay more or less, depending on how much they are working). That means that the industry needs to be making about $11.2 trillion a year. If a 1 hour "session" costs around $50, that is over 200 billion session per year, or ever adult in the US having a prostitute about 3 times per day, every day, including sundays.

We'd die from AIDS and various other stds in months.

what? that last part was a joke right? and porn is a $400 billion a year industry. imagine what people would pay for it in person
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1/20/2011 8:30:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/20/2011 8:16:43 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 1/20/2011 8:08:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
...are legal
But if you pay them its illegal.

Seems to me like there is an issue with that.

Someone helps you out, you help them back, all is fair, and no one is seriously hurt.
Not more so than if she hadn't been paid. And by getting money for it, she is helped alot more.

The object is to not encourage it (not saying that is right or working).

Why not? If sex is your asset shouldn't you use it to your benefit?


I don't see the logic in prostitution being illegal. If we tax it (same rate that we tax bread) I guarantee our national debt will be gone in 10 years. j/s (okay so I don't know the real math but you get my point)

You're kidding right?

Obvious hyperbole is obvious.

You "guarantee" that the debt will be gone?

See above

Let's see, we are currently something like $1.5 trillion deficit, plus the $1.3 trillion that would be needed annually to clear up the debt in 10 years.

Thats like 9X as much as the debt...How high is the interest?

So that means that we need $2.8 per year. I

$2.8? I can make that by gathering loose change! I hope you mean million? Or trillion. Billion perhaps.

f we are taxing at an average rate of, say 25% (some pay more or less, depending on how much they are working). That means that the industry needs to be making about $11.2 trillion a year.

I think prostitution will be a huge money maker.

If a 1 hour "session" costs around $50, that is over 200 billion session per year,

Like I said...how many burgers does McDonald's sell a year? Divide that by 5 and thats how many times a hooker will most likely have a job.

or ever adult in the US having a prostitute about 3 times per day, every day, including sundays.

Again with it being a hyperbole.

We'd die from AIDS and various other stds in months.

Haha like I always say make them provide a monthly test before they can work.
If they have AIDS or something there should be certain places where customers with AIDS can go anyway without infecting new people.
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1/20/2011 8:30:33 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/20/2011 8:16:43 PM, OreEle wrote:
If a 1 hour "session" costs around $50, that is over 200 billion session per year, or ever adult in the US having a prostitute about 3 times per day, every day, including sundays.

Well, heck, if prostitutes were legal, I'm sure a lot more people would use them.
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1/20/2011 8:31:12 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/20/2011 8:29:04 PM, MarquisX wrote:
At 1/20/2011 8:16:43 PM, OreEle wrote:
At 1/20/2011 8:08:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
...are legal
But if you pay them its illegal.

Seems to me like there is an issue with that.

Someone helps you out, you help them back, all is fair, and no one is seriously hurt.
Not more so than if she hadn't been paid. And by getting money for it, she is helped alot more.

The object is to not encourage it (not saying that is right or working).


I don't see the logic in prostitution being illegal. If we tax it (same rate that we tax bread) I guarantee our national debt will be gone in 10 years. j/s (okay so I don't know the real math but you get my point)

You're kidding right? You "guarantee" that the debt will be gone? Let's see, we are currently something like $1.5 trillion deficit, plus the $1.3 trillion that would be needed annually to clear up the debt in 10 years. So that means that we need $2.8 per year. If we are taxing at an average rate of, say 25% (some pay more or less, depending on how much they are working). That means that the industry needs to be making about $11.2 trillion a year. If a 1 hour "session" costs around $50, that is over 200 billion session per year, or ever adult in the US having a prostitute about 3 times per day, every day, including sundays.

We'd die from AIDS and various other stds in months.

what? that last part was a joke right? and porn is a $400 billion a year industry. imagine what people would pay for it in person

Haha thats true. Get a threesome with a couple of hookers :p
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1/20/2011 8:31:55 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'm against the state regulating sex. But I'm also against the state taxing sex. If I can sell my body, than that's my deal -- back the fvck off. End of story.
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1/20/2011 8:34:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/20/2011 8:08:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
...are legal
But if you pay them its illegal.

Seems to me like there is an issue with that.

Someone helps you out, you help them back, all is fair, and no one is seriously hurt.
Not more so than if she hadn't been paid. And by getting money for it, she is helped alot more.

I don't see the logic in prostitution being illegal. If we tax it (same rate that we tax bread) I guarantee our national debt will be gone in 10 years. j/s (okay so I don't know the real math but you get my point):

Criminalizing prostitution is unjust. The government hates it for two reasons:

1. It's an old social taboo that stuffy conservatives can't get around.

2. It's money under the table. Since the IRS can't tax it, it really pisses them off.

How do I know taxes are involved? Simple... Porn... The porn industry pays taxes, so they have no problem people getting payed for sex, as long as they get a huge cut. And even the stuffy conservatives reap the benefits of porn, both in personal enjoyment, and the fact that it's a multi-billion dollar industry. They're not about to let that cash cow go.

Prostitution is a victimless "crime." It's a consensual transaction between two people, and I see nothing wrong with it.
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1/20/2011 8:35:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I don't see the logic in prostitution being illegal. If we tax it (same rate that we tax bread) I guarantee our national debt will be gone in 10 years. j/s (okay so I don't know the real math but you get my point)

You're kidding right? You "guarantee" that the debt will be gone?:

Yes, she is kidding... She even said so.
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1/20/2011 8:39:38 PM
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I may be ignorant of the issue, but wouldn't sexual diseases spread more rapidly?
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1/20/2011 8:43:09 PM
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At 1/20/2011 8:39:38 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
I may be ignorant of the issue, but wouldn't sexual diseases spread more rapidly?

Probably, but keep in mind, not EVERYONE will be sleeping with hookers. In fact, the main customers are men between the ages of twenty-seven and forty-two, last I checked.
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1/20/2011 8:43:34 PM
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At 1/20/2011 8:39:38 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
I may be ignorant of the issue, but wouldn't sexual diseases spread more rapidly?

no
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1/20/2011 8:45:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/20/2011 8:08:56 PM, lovelife wrote:
...are legal
But if you pay them its illegal.

Seems to me like there is an issue with that.

Someone helps you out, you help them back, all is fair, and no one is seriously hurt.
Not more so than if she hadn't been paid. And by getting money for it, she is helped alot more.

I don't see the logic in prostitution being illegal. If we tax it (same rate that we tax bread) I guarantee our national debt will be gone in 10 years. j/s (okay so I don't know the real math but you get my point)

I agree. Prostitution should be legalized, taxed, and regulated. It would help the economy and make it safer for women. Many women can be forced into prostitution and in awful places but if the government kept an eye on it they could even have unions and things like that.
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1/20/2011 8:54:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 1/20/2011 8:43:34 PM, MarquisX wrote:
At 1/20/2011 8:39:38 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
I may be ignorant of the issue, but wouldn't sexual diseases spread more rapidly?

no

I love your wonderful reasoning.
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1/20/2011 8:54:40 PM
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At 1/20/2011 8:39:38 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
I may be ignorant of the issue, but wouldn't sexual diseases spread more rapidly?:

It certainly could, but the interesting thing to note is the effect that legalization has in prostitution. Your home, Las Vegas, has the cleanest hookers in the nation. Why is? How is that? Because of the same reason why Prohibition had disasters and counter-intuitive effects, and the same reason why the drug war actually creates crime.

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1/20/2011 9:01:35 PM
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At 1/20/2011 8:31:55 PM, annhasle wrote:
I'm against the state regulating sex. But I'm also against the state taxing sex. If I can sell my body, than that's my deal -- back the fvck off. End of story.

Teaching is a state job. You can also decide to homeschool (your own kids, or someone else's if they choose. My mom homeschooled my cousin and one of his friends)
Same type of deal.
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1/20/2011 9:05:09 PM
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At 1/20/2011 8:54:40 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 1/20/2011 8:39:38 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
I may be ignorant of the issue, but wouldn't sexual diseases spread more rapidly?:

It certainly could, but the interesting thing to note is the effect that legalization has in prostitution. Your home, Las Vegas, has the cleanest hookers in the nation. Why is? How is that? Because of the same reason why Prohibition had disasters and counter-intuitive effects, and the same reason why the drug war actually creates crime.

http://www.fff.org...

This.

Like I said we can have hookers checked out. And those forced into it wont be dubbed as criminals and would be more likely to report their exploiters. Making the world cleaner and safer.
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1/20/2011 9:13:21 PM
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At 1/20/2011 8:54:40 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 1/20/2011 8:39:38 PM, GeoLaureate8 wrote:
I may be ignorant of the issue, but wouldn't sexual diseases spread more rapidly?:

It certainly could, but the interesting thing to note is the effect that legalization has in prostitution. Your home, Las Vegas, has the cleanest hookers in the nation. Why is? How is that? Because of the same reason why Prohibition had disasters and counter-intuitive effects, and the same reason why the drug war actually creates crime.

http://www.fff.org...

Good point.
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1/21/2011 9:27:21 AM
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Reason #10498571 to switch to AnCom: You won't need to prohibit prostitution, because without an incentive to make money to stay out of debt no woman will have any incentive to sell her body.
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1/21/2011 9:36:29 AM
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I don't see why you can't just replace the word "prostitute" with "porn star" and have paid sex legally since you are making a porn video. Just film it and put it on the internet. There it's no longer prostitution.
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1/21/2011 9:44:53 AM
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At 1/21/2011 9:27:21 AM, Caramel wrote:
Reason #10498571 to switch to AnCom: You won't need to prohibit prostitution, because without an incentive to make money to stay out of debt no woman will have any incentive to sell her body.

Sooo many prostitutes are in debt... http://everything-las-vegas.blogspot.com...

How else ya gonna make six figures?
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1/21/2011 10:11:56 AM
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At 1/21/2011 9:27:21 AM, Caramel wrote:
Reason #10498571 to switch to AnCom: You won't need to prohibit prostitution, because without an incentive to make money to stay out of debt no woman will have any incentive to sell her body.

haha way to push communist propaganda :p
I'd support communism>capitalism any day tho.
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1/26/2011 12:25:47 AM
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Illegal prostitution makes absolutely no sense to me. It seems our paternalistic, Christian society feels it has a duty to control what women do with their bodies. Payment in return for sex is illegal. Payment in return for surrogacy/birthing is illegal. Many would love for abortion to be illegal. While men leverage their assets (like physical strength) for money, women are limited in this regard. Maybe its because we're being "protected", or maybe its because it would give us too much power, and chip away at our dependence. Maybe both.

Here's an excerpt from a great article from a female professor at my law school:

"One could also use prostitution as an example. Feminists who support the legalization of prostitution do so because they believe that on balance it will improve the situation of women. Legalization will improve the lives of women in prostitution by removing harassment from police, violence from pimps and fear of loss of custody of their children if their occupation were known. Women as a class will benefit because of the availability of a means of earning a significant income."

Feminists and Contract Doctrine by Deborah Threedy (32 Ind. L. Rev. 1247)
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1/26/2011 3:27:00 PM
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I think I said this in another thread once but..

The only difference between prostitution and pornography is that one involves a camera.

It's like the judge banged his gavel and said, "NO! You MAY NOT sell your body for sex!... Unless I can watch..."

Legalize prostitution I say.
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1/26/2011 3:39:44 PM
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: ugly people should beat beautiful people ugly. simple! you'd be killing two birds with the one stone... women like violent men and you're making yourself more attractive, relatively. i met a blonde dude who was prettier than me not so long ago. he's not so pretty now! ha!
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: ...and well, he wasn't really prettier than me. he just had nice hair.