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Indophile
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2/11/2011 10:20:34 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I think this was attributed to G B Shaw. He said that the police should only be paid when all cases are closed, or when they ensure that there is no crime. As soon as a crime is committed, pay is docked until it is resolved. Similarly doctors should be paid only when there are no diseases. You get the drift. You can put in any occupation....

How would corruption be possible in such a society? Would such a society even work?
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2/11/2011 11:11:11 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/11/2011 10:20:34 AM, Indophile wrote:
I think this was attributed to G B Shaw. He said that the police should only be paid when all cases are closed, or when they ensure that there is no crime. As soon as a crime is committed, pay is docked until it is resolved. Similarly doctors should be paid only when there are no diseases. You get the drift. You can put in any occupation....

How would corruption be possible in such a society? Would such a society even work?

No one would get paid.
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2/11/2011 11:47:32 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/11/2011 10:20:34 AM, Indophile wrote:
I think this was attributed to G B Shaw. He said that the police should only be paid when all cases are closed, or when they ensure that there is no crime. As soon as a crime is committed, pay is docked until it is resolved. Similarly doctors should be paid only when there are no diseases. You get the drift. You can put in any occupation....

How would corruption be possible in such a society? Would such a society even work?

Wouldn't the police want to arrest and book the first suspect who came along whether they were guilty or not? It seems to me that either there would be a lot of injustice in a system like that or you would have a lot of police officers working for free.

Now what might work would be a pro-active stance towards problems within the community. If the police were paid to prevent crime from happening (or doctors paid to keep people from getting sick) we would see the benefits of a safer community with well paid public servants.
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2/11/2011 12:27:34 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/11/2011 11:47:32 AM, tigg13 wrote:
At 2/11/2011 10:20:34 AM, Indophile wrote:
I think this was attributed to G B Shaw. He said that the police should only be paid when all cases are closed, or when they ensure that there is no crime. As soon as a crime is committed, pay is docked until it is resolved. Similarly doctors should be paid only when there are no diseases. You get the drift. You can put in any occupation....

How would corruption be possible in such a society? Would such a society even work?

Wouldn't the police want to arrest and book the first suspect who came along whether they were guilty or not? It seems to me that either there would be a lot of injustice in a system like that or you would have a lot of police officers working for free.

Exactly. Not only would they arrest any ond everyone who even has a chance to commit a crime, but they would arrest the people paying them and take their money. That has been the way of things for eternity.

Now what might work would be a pro-active stance towards problems within the community. If the police were paid to prevent crime from happening (or doctors paid to keep people from getting sick) we would see the benefits of a safer community with well paid public servants.

This would lead to even worse tyrrany than the first scenario. The diseases of xenophobia and conservatism would spiral out of control.
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2/11/2011 12:31:44 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/11/2011 10:20:34 AM, Indophile wrote:
I think this was attributed to G B Shaw. He said that the police should only be paid when all cases are closed, or when they ensure that there is no crime. As soon as a crime is committed, pay is docked until it is resolved. Similarly doctors should be paid only when there are no diseases. You get the drift. You can put in any occupation....

How would corruption be possible in such a society? Would such a society even work?

That would be awful. The police would be death squads and there would only be unregulated backstreet doctors.
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2/11/2011 1:07:09 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/11/2011 10:20:34 AM, Indophile wrote:
I think this was attributed to G B Shaw. He said that the police should only be paid when all cases are closed, or when they ensure that there is no crime. As soon as a crime is committed, pay is docked until it is resolved. Similarly doctors should be paid only when there are no diseases. You get the drift. You can put in any occupation....

How would corruption be possible in such a society? Would such a society even work?:

What a horrible idea that promotes corruption and the creation of crime. It doesn't take a genius to figure out why this would be.
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2/11/2011 1:08:22 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Well, looks like everyone else agrees that the OP's suggestion has to be one of the most asinine plans I've ever heard.
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2/11/2011 1:13:48 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/11/2011 1:08:22 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Well, looks like everyone else agrees that the OP's suggestion has to be one of the most asinine plans I've ever heard.

Ha ha.

Even I thought so. That's why I was wondering why G B Shaw would say such a thing :)
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2/11/2011 1:41:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/11/2011 1:13:48 PM, Indophile wrote:
At 2/11/2011 1:08:22 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Well, looks like everyone else agrees that the OP's suggestion has to be one of the most asinine plans I've ever heard.

Ha ha.

Even I thought so. That's why I was wondering why G B Shaw would say such a thing :)

Probably just trying to be funny!
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3/2/2011 3:06:12 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/2/2011 1:41:45 PM, Safia.Abdalla wrote:
No society will ever work because they will all have their flaws. Corruption is inevitable.

Society is just one big joint family. Are you saying families won't ever work? :)
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Safia.Abdalla
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3/2/2011 4:52:47 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/2/2011 3:06:12 PM, Indophile wrote:
At 3/2/2011 1:41:45 PM, Safia.Abdalla wrote:
No society will ever work because they will all have their flaws. Corruption is inevitable.

Society is just one big joint family. Are you saying families won't ever work? :)

Families are different because there is immediate genetic relation which at least causes some sanity in families.
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3/2/2011 5:03:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/2/2011 4:52:47 PM, Safia.Abdalla wrote:
At 3/2/2011 3:06:12 PM, Indophile wrote:
At 3/2/2011 1:41:45 PM, Safia.Abdalla wrote:
No society will ever work because they will all have their flaws. Corruption is inevitable.

Society is just one big joint family. Are you saying families won't ever work? :)

Families are different because there is immediate genetic relation which at least causes some sanity in families.

Families are sane? lmao. Since when?
Safia.Abdalla
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3/2/2011 5:09:37 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/2/2011 5:03:58 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 3/2/2011 4:52:47 PM, Safia.Abdalla wrote:
At 3/2/2011 3:06:12 PM, Indophile wrote:
At 3/2/2011 1:41:45 PM, Safia.Abdalla wrote:
No society will ever work because they will all have their flaws. Corruption is inevitable.

Society is just one big joint family. Are you saying families won't ever work? :)

Families are different because there is immediate genetic relation which at least causes some sanity in families.

Families are sane? lmao. Since when?
Recall I said "at least some". ;)
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3/3/2011 8:20:31 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 2/11/2011 10:20:34 AM, Indophile wrote:
I think this was attributed to G B Shaw. He said that the police should only be paid when all cases are closed, or when they ensure that there is no crime. As soon as a crime is committed, pay is docked until it is resolved. Similarly doctors should be paid only when there are no diseases. You get the drift. You can put in any occupation....

How would corruption be possible in such a society? Would such a society even work?

stop oppressing people. there are many circumstances in which someone turns to crime, and I'm not justifying anyone.
Indophile
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3/3/2011 10:34:16 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/3/2011 8:20:31 AM, kelly224 wrote:
At 2/11/2011 10:20:34 AM, Indophile wrote:
I think this was attributed to G B Shaw. He said that the police should only be paid when all cases are closed, or when they ensure that there is no crime. As soon as a crime is committed, pay is docked until it is resolved. Similarly doctors should be paid only when there are no diseases. You get the drift. You can put in any occupation....

How would corruption be possible in such a society? Would such a society even work?

stop oppressing people. there are many circumstances in which someone turns to crime, and I'm not justifying anyone.

That's just like saying, "Everybody, be good." We all know that doesn't work. How do you make people stop oppressing other people?
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3/8/2011 3:57:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
The only certain way to achieve peace between men is to kill every person. Dead people are the only sort to have any certainty of being non-violent.
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3/8/2011 4:02:25 PM
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At 3/8/2011 3:57:29 PM, PervRat wrote:
The only certain way to achieve peace between men is to kill every person. Dead people are the only sort to have any certainty of being non-violent.

Not even there. There are accounts of people who have been resurrected and will return one day to wage war upon the evil forces! :)
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