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3/10/2011 3:01:28 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
The addicts of every vice from paedophilia to alcohol abuse, gloss over their compulsions for ‘allure' or ‘mystique' . Or fob it off, disguise it as ‘virtue' . So massive the addiction, it is peddled as ‘popular'. Those who view these deviations with disfavour, become the real perverts - the really sick creatures to be treated, punished, then ‘educated' [brainwashed].
Sport occupies a large drawer in the National Budget, because it is taxpayer funded Governments feels anxious to justify the expense.
True, regular exercise is vital . But excessive exercise in professional sport is not unhealthy – it's downright dangerous and life-threatening. It strains the body beyond its evolved capabilities.. The average person is intelligent enough. No amount of training would enable them to compete at those artificial levels. So they give up. They become passive spectators – and these are the lucky ones! They escape really serious damage .
So, who suffers the greatest harm? The poor sods who try to emulate them! They are hyper-aware of how non-competitive they are against those who take the drugs. It's a race between those who can and can't get away with drug enhancement & not get caught.Sport enjoys a cult status - practiced like a giant religion, it ducks the evaluation and the scepticism t it warrants. Sport is the greatest threat and source of ill-health imaginable.
Grisly death statistics attributed to travel are trotted out.. The volume of butchered and maimed on roads is quoted. Fingers are wagged - "more than all the wars!" they wail. Then, "Look at the gross aggregate killed in airplane crashes!" they lament. How much is trumpeted over sport? Zero!
Censorship surrounds most sports facts .How sobering the stats on sports-related deaths and injuries? Even the really dangerous sports, like boxing and car racing, are protected from fact examination. First, there is outright death - the inherent risk of violence in sport. Yes, the odd death from a skiing event here, a football match there, - Then add them together. Yet, every ‘isolated' death is caused by sport and nothing else! The sheer amount of sport simply dilutes the horror.
Next, sports related death and injury. Sports people are unusually prone to illness. Not exactly expected, from such a healthy activity? Then, ignoring the drugs, even the standard "approved by all the sports bodies" training places strain on the immune system. To build competition muscle, they need to devour huge amounts of unhealthy food. They may appear fit - no spare fat - but their system - their insides are under unbearable strain.
This same ‘diet' would demand supplements – not recommended by sporting authorities. This diet depletes the body of essential minerals such as Chromium and nutrients such as Glutamine, essential for the nourishment of the immune system. The extent to which athletes suffer colds and other ‘minor' infections, is testimony they are in a state of malnutrition, though their diets are approved by medical authorities.
The ‘quasi-sacred' image of sport ensures psychiatric casualties are covered up. How many sports-related suicides? How much drug addiction in the aftermath of the sports mania? Where is the ‘freedom of information'? What information! The figures aren't even collected! Competition fetish forces an unnatural strain on mental equilibrium. Performers stake their whole lives on winning. How devastating to lose! Yes, to lose, in spite of how good they are now, for they will be the new has-beens. A few manage to carve out a ‘new life'. But, what of the army of those who no longer see the point of living?
Ignoring the ordinary garden-variety losers - what about the super losers? Those far above average in physical ability, fail even to reach selection. These are the super-losers! They don't even get to strut their stuff! Their failure is especially bitter, since their investment is as total as the winners. What quality of life for them now? The grunts - the passive victims - the spectators? Immune from the stress of competition? Does their self-esteem remain unharmed? To be constantly reminded they cannot run or jump or swim as far and as fast as this tiny, elite fraction of a small percentage of the rest of mankind? Is sitting at a TV set, ogling the exploits of these ‘heroes', consuming vast amounts of alcohol and junk food really such a harmless pursuit?
In earlier times, the Monarchs frowned upon sport. It distracted the peasants from their labour. Today, it's been seized upon by the new aristocracy - the Capitalist Class - as some endorsement of the virtue of competition, though the Primitive Societies of our ancestors were cooperative., It is now argued that we can only make progress through competition.
Sex replaces Love. Sex achieves competitive sport status!Sex is no longer about love - it's about winners and losers! Driving a car eclipses transportation. Get there faster – overtake slower drivers - exciting risks! We now enjoy a ‘new' creative art behind the wheel – ‘Road Rage'!
Citizens once were a band of those who would cooperate to make a good society. We now have consumers. Instead of society we have Economy! Selfish competition makes more products - enhances the common good. Really? The late, unlamented Soviet Union fused sport and production with the "Stackhanovite" system. They'd select top athletes, dispatch them to coal mines and factories. With their super physique, superior nutrition and specialised training, they'd out-perform the average Soviet worker to great embarrassment and [artificially]set tougher standards that ordinary folk were expected to achieve!
Then, the ultimate parody – the greatest mockery - the Para Olympics! Top athletes who have wrecked their fine bodies through playing sport, now show us what can be achieved with the leftovers!. These ‘recyclables' are paraded before the genuinely handicapped, - those who are crippled through no fault of their own, as a role-model! You and I are told that if all that can be done in a wheelchair, - why can't we go out and get a job and cease burdening our social security systems? After these poor devils commit suicide under such pressure- who classifies it as a sports-related death?
But what is Sport? Like religion,it's a ‘will-o-the-wisp.' It dissolves into everything. "Sport" is most certainly not about having fun. It is a deadly serious ‘business'! A friendly, harmless game in the back yard, with no score, is definitely not "sport". That's just – ‘fooling around'. Maybe beating a rival into a parking space? Well, it might be sports-related, but it is not ‘sport', since sport does not exist without officially recognised competition. No matter how dangerous the activity is, it is not sport unless you are competing officially with others. You may be the best in the world at tossing wads of paper into a waste paper bin, but until that activity is officially recognised as a sport, you are nothing. That's how narrowly sport is caged.
Helping other people, making useful scientific discoveries, these are not sports. Thereby they become worthless activities. You have no grounds to take pride in them, for, there is no official encouragement. ‘Creativity'. Since the very essence of creativity is that it is new, - without precedent, - defying measurement – it is definitely not a sport. Hence, it is worthless. There are artistic competitions. Standards are set, and those who conform most closely to those standards are graded as winners. Thus do the competition rules guarantee the erasure of all creativity.
Sadly, the indicators are that sport is only just reaching stride. Because the science of Biochemistry has been press-ganged into the sports industry, the competition is really between those biochemists who will devise the new drugs that can't be detected - and those who concoct the ones that will uncover them. Since it is so obvious that no amount of training in the world will ever turn the average weakli
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3/10/2011 5:24:32 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
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3/10/2011 5:28:00 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
In a more serious response; you make some interesting points, however, I do disagree, but due to the length of your post I really can't be bothered to address them. =/ Sorry.
Basically you ignore the positive aspects of sports, which are plentiful.
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3/10/2011 2:26:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Refrigerator perry comes to mind while I read this but do you have some statistics to back up your points about sports related fatalities and sickness?
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3/11/2011 12:52:24 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
though the Primitive Societies of our ancestors were cooperative., It is now argued that we can only make progress through competition.
Yeah, primitive societies DIDN'T make progress (and they weren't cooperative so much as nonconsensual. Capitalism has both cooperative and competitive elements, the key to both being the lack of initial force). Primitive societies also had less than half the average lifespan of today.

he Para Olympics! Top athletes who have wrecked their fine bodies through playing sport,
I think the idea is more those who were born that way, though some may be acquired.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
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3/11/2011 9:49:48 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Also, you know who invented lacrosse? Native Americans, except their version was more violent, designed to train teenagers for the martial skills necessary to survive the traditions of their primitive, anticapitalist society.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
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3/12/2011 12:15:41 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Sounds like someone got beat up a lot by the 'jocks' in high school. That or he's making excuses for his own obesity. Sports are an exercise in fitness and strategy. Beyond the obvious health benefits associated with regular physical activity, they teach people how to make quick decisions under pressure, and I'd contend that they do so far more effectively than any other 'practical' situation. That's a damn important skill to have. Now quit your whining fatty.
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3/12/2011 1:57:12 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/10/2011 5:28:00 AM, Thaddeus wrote:
In a more serious response; you make some interesting points, however, I do disagree, but due to the length of your post I really can't be bothered to address them. =/ Sorry.
Basically you ignore the positive aspects of sports, which are plentiful.

Thanx for the response. Yes, you're on the money. I do ignore the your allegedly 'positive' aspects. For very good reason. The media already do a magnificent job of revving up the alleged 'benefits' of sport and their nauseating hyperbole and exaggerated and overrated reams of propaganda do much to make me puke at the lies and distortions. But then, like Charlie Sheen, tha's jest li'l ol' me. Cheers.
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3/12/2011 2:00:33 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2011 12:15:41 AM, MikeLoviN wrote:
Sounds like someone got beat up a lot by the 'jocks' in high school. That or he's making excuses for his own obesity. Sports are an exercise in fitness and strategy. Beyond the obvious health benefits associated with regular physical activity, they teach people how to make quick decisions under pressure, and I'd contend that they do so far more effectively than any other 'practical' situation. That's a damn important skill to have. Now quit your whining fatty.

Mate, I'd be thrilled to learn from you. You established my physical attributes without even knowing what I look like. Any chance of seeing this telepathic machinery of such great magick?
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3/12/2011 1:53:33 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2011 12:15:41 AM, MikeLoviN wrote:
Sounds like someone got beat up a lot by the 'jocks' in high school. That or he's making excuses for his own obesity. Sports are an exercise in fitness and strategy. Beyond the obvious health benefits associated with regular physical activity, they teach people how to make quick decisions under pressure, and I'd contend that they do so far more effectively than any other 'practical' situation. That's a damn important skill to have. Now quit your whining fatty.

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I'm not back. This idiot just upset me which made me stop lurking.
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3/12/2011 2:08:30 PM
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At 3/12/2011 2:00:33 AM, racist wrote:
At 3/12/2011 12:15:41 AM, MikeLoviN wrote:
Sounds like someone got beat up a lot by the 'jocks' in high school. That or he's making excuses for his own obesity. Sports are an exercise in fitness and strategy. Beyond the obvious health benefits associated with regular physical activity, they teach people how to make quick decisions under pressure, and I'd contend that they do so far more effectively than any other 'practical' situation. That's a damn important skill to have. Now quit your whining fatty.

Mate, I'd be thrilled to learn from you. You established my physical attributes without even knowing what I look like. Any chance of seeing this telepathic machinery of such great magick?


You're british.
I can't even name a british athlete that plays anything besides the flopping sport of soccer.
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3/12/2011 4:06:22 PM
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At 3/12/2011 2:08:30 PM, zGodMode wrote:
At 3/12/2011 2:00:33 AM, racist wrote:
At 3/12/2011 12:15:41 AM, MikeLoviN wrote:
Sounds like someone got beat up a lot by the 'jocks' in high school. That or he's making excuses for his own obesity. Sports are an exercise in fitness and strategy. Beyond the obvious health benefits associated with regular physical activity, they teach people how to make quick decisions under pressure, and I'd contend that they do so far more effectively than any other 'practical' situation. That's a damn important skill to have. Now quit your whining fatty.

Mate, I'd be thrilled to learn from you. You established my physical attributes without even knowing what I look like. Any chance of seeing this telepathic machinery of such great magick?


You're british.
I can't even name a british athlete that plays anything besides the flopping sport of soccer.

Heh. We at least play sports that the rest of world plays.
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3/12/2011 4:24:26 PM
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At 3/12/2011 4:17:15 PM, FREEDO wrote:
I'm glad he brought this up, there's a lot of truth to it, but I wouldn't go that far.

It is the opiate of the masses IMHO.
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3/12/2011 4:25:14 PM
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At 3/12/2011 2:00:33 AM, racist wrote:
At 3/12/2011 12:15:41 AM, MikeLoviN wrote:
Sounds like someone got beat up a lot by the 'jocks' in high school. That or he's making excuses for his own obesity. Sports are an exercise in fitness and strategy. Beyond the obvious health benefits associated with regular physical activity, they teach people how to make quick decisions under pressure, and I'd contend that they do so far more effectively than any other 'practical' situation. That's a damn important skill to have. Now quit your whining fatty.

Mate, I'd be thrilled to learn from you. You established my physical attributes without even knowing what I look like. Any chance of seeing this telepathic machinery of such great magick?
:

What kind of response were you honestly expecting?
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3/12/2011 4:33:44 PM
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Psychologically speaking, sports is war. I don't think it's coincidence that I have never liked sports and ended up being a Pacifist.
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3/12/2011 9:59:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2011 4:06:22 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 3/12/2011 2:08:30 PM, zGodMode wrote:
At 3/12/2011 2:00:33 AM, racist wrote:
At 3/12/2011 12:15:41 AM, MikeLoviN wrote:
Sounds like someone got beat up a lot by the 'jocks' in high school. That or he's making excuses for his own obesity. Sports are an exercise in fitness and strategy. Beyond the obvious health benefits associated with regular physical activity, they teach people how to make quick decisions under pressure, and I'd contend that they do so far more effectively than any other 'practical' situation. That's a damn important skill to have. Now quit your whining fatty.

Mate, I'd be thrilled to learn from you. You established my physical attributes without even knowing what I look like. Any chance of seeing this telepathic machinery of such great magick?


You're british.
I can't even name a british athlete that plays anything besides the flopping sport of soccer.

Heh. We at least play sports that the rest of world plays.

Heavily played American sports:
Football
Basketball
Baseball
Wrestling
Soccer
Lacrosse
Boxing
UFC

The rest of the world doesn't play most of those?
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3/12/2011 11:14:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 3/12/2011 4:33:44 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Psychologically speaking, sports is war. I don't think it's coincidence that I have never liked sports and ended up being a Pacifist.

You just need boxxy to be a cheerleader.
It came to be at its height. It was commanded to command. It was a capital before its first stone was laid. It was a monument to the spirit of man.
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3/12/2011 11:38:36 PM
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At 3/12/2011 4:06:22 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
Heh. We at least play sports that the rest of world plays.

Americans don't enjoy povertyball/divegrass, sorry.
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3/12/2011 11:39:05 PM
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At 3/12/2011 4:33:44 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Psychologically speaking, sports is war.

I don't follow. Every competition = war?
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3/12/2011 11:51:42 PM
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At 3/12/2011 11:39:05 PM, Nags wrote:
At 3/12/2011 4:33:44 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Psychologically speaking, sports is war.

I don't follow. Every competition = war?

He said psychologically. I assume he means that it appeals to the same aggressive drives.

I agree with innomen's comment about sports being an opiate.
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3/13/2011 12:02:40 AM
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At 3/12/2011 11:51:42 PM, Grape wrote:
At 3/12/2011 11:39:05 PM, Nags wrote:
At 3/12/2011 4:33:44 PM, FREEDO wrote:
Psychologically speaking, sports is war.

I don't follow. Every competition = war?

He said psychologically. I assume he means that it appeals to the same aggressive drives.

I guess. The same can be said for any competition though. It's not really much of a statement.

I agree with innomen's comment about sports being an opiate.

I don't think there's anything wrong with finding happiness in something that is actually real and tangible, as opposed to religion.
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3/14/2011 12:34:27 AM
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At 3/10/2011 2:26:00 PM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Refrigerator perry comes to mind while I read this but do you have some statistics to back up your points about sports related fatalities and sickness?

Would love to, mate, but stats are as boring as bats poop and it all depends on what one is satisfied with. I know people who look at their phone bill and remind themselves to cut down, whilst others look at the same bill and have a holy war over it. What's the point, if you can make frogs legs out of them? I'm for cut & thrust – not a born Accountant.
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3/14/2011 12:39:25 AM
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At 3/12/2011 2:08:30 PM, zGodMode wrote:
At 3/12/2011 2:00:33 AM, racist wrote:
At 3/12/2011 12:15:41 AM, MikeLoviN wrote:
Sounds like someone got beat up a lot by the 'jocks' in high school. That or he's making excuses for his own obesity. Sports are an exercise in fitness and strategy. Beyond the obvious health benefits associated with regular physical activity, they teach people how to make quick decisions under pressure, and I'd contend that they do so far more effectively than any other 'practical' situation. That's a damn important skill to have. Now quit your whining fatty.

Mate, I'd be thrilled to learn from you. You established my physical attributes without even knowing what I look like. Any chance of seeing this telepathic machinery of such great magick?


You're british.
I can't even name a british athlete that plays anything besides the flopping sport of soccer.

Imagine how good you'd be if you got something right for a change - but keep trying.
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3/14/2011 12:41:15 AM
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Sports are fun.
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3/14/2011 1:12:24 AM
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At 3/12/2011 4:25:14 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 3/12/2011 2:00:33 AM, racist wrote:
At 3/12/2011 12:15:41 AM, MikeLoviN wrote:
Sounds like someone got beat up a lot by the 'jocks' in high school. That or he's making excuses for his own obesity. Sports are an exercise in fitness and strategy. Beyond the obvious health benefits associated with regular physical activity, they teach people how to make quick decisions under pressure, and I'd contend that they do so far more effectively than any other 'practical' situation. That's a damn important skill to have. Now quit your whining fatty.

Mate, I'd be thrilled to learn from you. You established my physical attributes without even knowing what I look like. Any chance of seeing this telepathic machinery of such great magick?
:

What kind of response were you honestly expecting?

I foolishly expected a response based on the reading of what I'd actually written. I mean, I just assumed it was a debating thing happening, not a name calling forum, especially through the weapon of a personal slur for no reason whatsoever and with no information on my physical characteristics. There is a name for people who do that sort of thing, but I've been brought up with better manners than to stoop so low.