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Athlete's gender in dispute

PervRat
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8/19/2009 3:26:40 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
http://sports.yahoo.com...

... "Her dramatic improvement in times, muscular build and deep voice sparked speculation about her gender. Ideally, any dispute surrounding an athlete is dealt with before a major competition. But Semenya's stunning rise from unknown teenage runner to the favorite in the 800 happened almost overnight. That meant the gender test—which takes several weeks—could not be completed in time."

Hmmm, can anyone here think of a faster way to check someone's gender?
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8/19/2009 3:32:15 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
They could make a game show out of this and get people to guess other peoples genders.

An X-Ray or ultrasound should be able to show the internal sex organs.
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8/19/2009 5:23:28 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
Plastic surgery. On that note, can women who got a sex change produce semen? That would be a good test, send 'em to go jack off and see what happens.
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8/19/2009 9:49:24 PM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/19/2009 5:23:28 PM, bearsfan wrote:
Plastic surgery. On that note, can women who got a sex change produce semen? That would be a good test, send 'em to go jack off and see what happens.

Depends on whether you mean a woman who had a sex change (and used to be a man).

If I'm not enough of a freak yet, here's a little TMI trivia -- I've actually considered becoming a eunuch. In the process, I learned female-to-male transsexuals who go through surgery can produce sperm if a male-to-female (or male-to-eunuch) donates what they're getting rid of. Genetically, any offspring would actually be the offspring of the original male the testicles came from, as the testicles are the source of the sperm and thus produce the genetic offspring of the male they were originally born onto.
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8/20/2009 4:46:05 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
They are going to check her testosterone or try find hidden organs. if they ban her on those grounds it would be very discriminatory, unless they make a He-She league.
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8/20/2009 5:00:45 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/20/2009 4:46:05 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
They are going to check her testosterone or try find hidden organs. if they ban her on those grounds it would be very discriminatory, unless they make a He-She league.

Or they could let her compete with the men...
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8/20/2009 9:46:06 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/20/2009 5:00:45 AM, theitalianstallion wrote:
At 8/20/2009 4:46:05 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
They are going to check her testosterone or try find hidden organs. if they ban her on those grounds it would be very discriminatory, unless they make a He-She league.

Or they could let her compete with the men...

Imagine this applied to the marriage assault acts. The right wingers will set up review boards to determine if the groom is male enough and the bride female enough to permit them to marry ...
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8/20/2009 9:53:18 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/20/2009 9:46:06 AM, PervRat wrote:
At 8/20/2009 5:00:45 AM, theitalianstallion wrote:
At 8/20/2009 4:46:05 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
They are going to check her testosterone or try find hidden organs. if they ban her on those grounds it would be very discriminatory, unless they make a He-She league.

Or they could let her compete with the men...

Imagine this applied to the marriage assault acts. The right wingers will set up review boards to determine if the groom is male enough and the bride female enough to permit them to marry ...

I mean, where does a hermaphrodite stand?
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8/20/2009 10:12:55 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
"Women can run fast? That can't be right. She must be a man."
What are they thinking?

And I agree, no gender test should take 3 weeks.
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SportsGuru
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8/20/2009 11:57:10 AM
Posted: 7 years ago
At 8/20/2009 10:12:55 AM, wjmelements wrote:
"Women can run fast? That can't be right. She must be a man."
What are they thinking?

And I agree, no gender test should take 3 weeks.

Unless if I interpreted a quote from the IAFF wrong, if she in fact has changed her gender, that will not be enough grounds for expulsion/other punishments. The board include pschyatrists and the like, to see whether the change was just to cheat and win, or whether she truly believed she should be a girl. If it was just to cheat, THEN there would be punishment. Thus the long time period for the testing.