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6/21/2012 11:07:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
LBJ Reminds me of a less talented Wilt Chamberlain. By their 9th year, they win 1 championship, but by this point, Wilt has 4 MVPs, while LBJ has 3. But LBJ should now be ranked among the top 20 if he isn't right now.
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6/21/2012 11:22:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
There's a good side and a bad side to this.

Bad side: I really wanted to see OKC make an impact and win a championship this year

Good side: Little baby Lebron gets his ring, so now I won't have to hear about ringless Lebron the whole offseason. Now I'll just get to hear a bunch of different people rate him against the best players in the game now that he has finally won a championship......

Maybe there is no good side to this..........

But Lebron really is a great player, and with the way he played in the playoffs, he deserved that ring
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6/21/2012 11:55:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 11:27:40 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
The Heat might get one more but i think we're entering OKC's era now....

I doubt they have enough enough payroll to resign Harden and Ibaka when their contracts are up. If they can, they still don't have enough of a supporting cast to win a championship as Miami showed.
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6/22/2012 12:51:50 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 11:55:07 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 6/21/2012 11:27:40 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
The Heat might get one more but i think we're entering OKC's era now....

I doubt they have enough enough payroll to resign Harden and Ibaka when their contracts are up. If they can, they still don't have enough of a supporting cast to win a championship as Miami showed.

Both LeBron and Bosh took pay cuts when signing with the Heat for the sake of the team. If Ibaka and Harden also want to be on a championship team, they will do the same.
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6/22/2012 12:56:04 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/21/2012 10:56:19 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
LeBron will finally get his well-deserved ring.

What makes it "well-deserved"?
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6/22/2012 12:57:14 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 12:51:50 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 6/21/2012 11:55:07 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 6/21/2012 11:27:40 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
The Heat might get one more but i think we're entering OKC's era now....

I doubt they have enough enough payroll to resign Harden and Ibaka when their contracts are up. If they can, they still don't have enough of a supporting cast to win a championship as Miami showed.

Both LeBron and Bosh took pay cuts when signing with the Heat for the sake of the team. If Ibaka and Harden also want to be on a championship team, they will do the same.

I agree. That's exactly why Westbrook and Durant resigned (well a major reason for Durant). Perkins signed because the Celctics weren't of erring enough, bit whatever.

My point is, just resigning Ibaka and Harden doesn't make them a championship team. Miami just proved that. If they want to win, they NEED more support, something they cannot afford. And LeBron/Bosh/Wade are makin' 18 mil + so there's no need to complain.
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6/22/2012 1:00:19 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 12:56:04 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 6/21/2012 10:56:19 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
LeBron will finally get his well-deserved ring.

What makes it "well-deserved"?

He's the best overall player in the NBA. 3 time RS MVP (one of only 6 people to to be RSMVP and not have a ring until tonight). He has 9 years in the NBA without a ring and made it his mission this season to get one. He trained over the off season and during the lockout for that purpose. Future HOF'er, he deserved the ring.
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6/22/2012 1:02:46 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Honestly, I think the ring is cheapened for Lebron James.

He had to go on a super team like Miami to get, while Micheal Jordan and Magic Johnson brought their teams to greatness.
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6/22/2012 1:06:58 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 1:00:19 AM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:56:04 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 6/21/2012 10:56:19 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
LeBron will finally get his well-deserved ring.

What makes it "well-deserved"?

He's the best overall player in the NBA. 3 time RS MVP (one of only 6 people to to be RSMVP and not have a ring until tonight).He has 9 years in the NBA without a ring and made it his mission this season to get one. He trained over the off season and during the lockout for that purpose. Future HOF'er, he deserved the ring.

I'll bet that nearly everyone did that. And I'll bet he wasn't the only person in the NBA that put all their effort into winning a championship. What has he really done that puts a "deserves" for him, but no one else?
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6/22/2012 1:07:48 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I dont think they need more help. The Thunder can win multiple championships with this exact team. They lost these finals because they ran into a more experienced team that had been there, and wanted it more. Next year, the Thunder will have been there and will want it. If these 2 teams meet in next year's finals, the outcome could be different.

More importantly, they'll be another year older and another year better. Most people consider age 26-29 to be prime years. Well, Durant/Harden/Westbrook are all 22. They'll get better each year.

Also, I expect Durant to have a different mentality next season. The biggest knock on him during the playoffs has been his lack of aggression. But after this, I expect him to become a murdering machine next year.

The Heat could also get better though. Norris Cole looks pretty promising for them. Just a rookie, but already a great man defender. Chalmers might get more consistent. They also developed their best ball movement I've seen in the last few games. Add a decent free agent or two. We'll see what happens.
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6/22/2012 1:09:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 1:02:46 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
Honestly, I think the ring is cheapened for Lebron James.

He had to go on a super team like Miami to get, while Micheal Jordan and Magic Johnson brought their teams to greatness.

You think those guys didn't have help? Last I checked, MJ played with some guy named Scotty Pippen.
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6/22/2012 1:09:19 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 1:02:46 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
Honestly, I think the ring is cheapened for Lebron James.

He had to go on a super team like Miami to get, while Micheal Jordan and Magic Johnson brought their teams to greatness.

That's not true. You obviously have no idea Who Scottie pippen is or The Showtime Lakers. Magic Johnson played with at least three other eventual Hall Of Farmers.
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6/22/2012 1:09:49 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 1:09:19 AM, Agent_Orange wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:02:46 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
Honestly, I think the ring is cheapened for Lebron James.

He had to go on a super team like Miami to get, while Micheal Jordan and Magic Johnson brought their teams to greatness.

That's not true. You obviously have no idea Who Scottie pippen is or The Showtime Lakers. Magic Johnson played with at least three other eventual Hall Of Farmers.

lol, 1 second late.
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6/22/2012 1:10:01 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 1:09:19 AM, Agent_Orange wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:02:46 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
Honestly, I think the ring is cheapened for Lebron James.

He had to go on a super team like Miami to get, while Micheal Jordan and Magic Johnson brought their teams to greatness.

That's not true. You obviously have no idea Who Scottie pippen is or The Showtime Lakers. Magic Johnson played with at least three other eventual Hall Of Farmers.

This. Every historically dominant player has had hall of famers next to them.
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6/22/2012 1:10:39 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 1:09:18 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:02:46 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
Honestly, I think the ring is cheapened for Lebron James.

He had to go on a super team like Miami to get, while Micheal Jordan and Magic Johnson brought their teams to greatness.

You think those guys didn't have help? Last I checked, MJ played with some guy named Scotty Pippen.

And Dennis Rodman.
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6/22/2012 1:11:44 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
But god...OKC fell for the LeBron trap so many times.

LeBron would get the ball, drive toward the basket (making the OKC defense compress towards the paint) then kick it out to the players at the perimeter (like Battier, Chalmers, sometimes Cole and Miller).
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6/22/2012 1:14:31 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 1:10:01 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:09:19 AM, Agent_Orange wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:02:46 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
Honestly, I think the ring is cheapened for Lebron James.

He had to go on a super team like Miami to get, while Micheal Jordan and Magic Johnson brought their teams to greatness.

That's not true. You obviously have no idea Who Scottie pippen is or The Showtime Lakers. Magic Johnson played with at least three other eventual Hall Of Farmers.

This. Every historically dominant player has had hall of famers next to them.

Well, except Wilt Chamber... Wait, no, that's false too. Only one player that I can think of that was historically dominant without HOFers is George Mikan, but that's because the lane was only 6 feet, and there was no shot clock. Wilt had to team up with Hal Greer and Billy Cunningham for his first title, and he had to win with Jerry West and Gail Goodrich for his second. So even the most unstoppable force in basketball history, Wilt Chamberlain, needed help.
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6/22/2012 1:16:58 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 1:10:01 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:09:19 AM, Agent_Orange wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:02:46 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
Honestly, I think the ring is cheapened for Lebron James.

He had to go on a super team like Miami to get, while Micheal Jordan and Magic Johnson brought their teams to greatness.

That's not true. You obviously have no idea Who Scottie pippen is or The Showtime Lakers. Magic Johnson played with at least three other eventual Hall Of Farmers.

This. Every historically dominant player has had hall of famers next to them.

True except maybe Hakeem and the Rockets in '94. He had a good squad of role players though.
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6/22/2012 1:17:07 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 1:06:58 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:00:19 AM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:56:04 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 6/21/2012 10:56:19 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
LeBron will finally get his well-deserved ring.

What makes it "well-deserved"?

He's the best overall player in the NBA. 3 time RS MVP (one of only 6 people to to be RSMVP and not have a ring until tonight).He has 9 years in the NBA without a ring and made it his mission this season to get one. He trained over the off season and during the lockout for that purpose. Future HOF'er, he deserved the ring.

I'll bet that nearly everyone did that. And I'll bet he wasn't the only person in the NBA that put all their effort into winning a championship. What has he really done that puts a "deserves" for him, but no one else?
He trained with past Hall of Famer's (forgot specifically who) to improve different aspects of his game. How many players did that?

And of course he deserves it more. He was the MVP. He did more to carry his team than any player in the NBA (besides Durant). And when did I say no one else deserved it? KD deserved it. I simply said LeBron deserved it. 9 years of domination.

But Nash deserves one more than anyone in my opinion.
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6/22/2012 1:18:59 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 1:16:58 AM, Skyhook wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:10:01 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:09:19 AM, Agent_Orange wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:02:46 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
Honestly, I think the ring is cheapened for Lebron James.

He had to go on a super team like Miami to get, while Micheal Jordan and Magic Johnson brought their teams to greatness.

That's not true. You obviously have no idea Who Scottie pippen is or The Showtime Lakers. Magic Johnson played with at least three other eventual Hall Of Farmers.

This. Every historically dominant player has had hall of famers next to them.

True except maybe Hakeem and the Rockets in '94. He had a good squad of role players though.

Eh, he was helped by Jordan not being there, and he won his 2nd ring with Clyde Drexler. Nonetheless, Hakeem's first ring was a special anomaly. And probably so was the Pistons' ring in 2004.
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6/22/2012 1:20:29 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
And besides, OKC can't win next year, it's Dallas' turn again. :)

D Will + Kidd + Kendall Marshall (if we pick him up) is the best PG lineup in the NBA. Dirk at PF, maybe even Roy Hibbert at Center (with the high-flyin' B Wright option Cuban will obviously take to back him up).

It's unlikely that we get D Will and Hibbert, but ya never know.
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6/22/2012 1:21:14 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 1:17:07 AM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:06:58 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:00:19 AM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:56:04 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 6/21/2012 10:56:19 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
LeBron will finally get his well-deserved ring.

What makes it "well-deserved"?

He's the best overall player in the NBA. 3 time RS MVP (one of only 6 people to to be RSMVP and not have a ring until tonight).He has 9 years in the NBA without a ring and made it his mission this season to get one. He trained over the off season and during the lockout for that purpose. Future HOF'er, he deserved the ring.

I'll bet that nearly everyone did that. And I'll bet he wasn't the only person in the NBA that put all their effort into winning a championship. What has he really done that puts a "deserves" for him, but no one else?
He trained with past Hall of Famer's (forgot specifically who) to improve different aspects of his game. How many players did that?

And of course he deserves it more. He was the MVP. He did more to carry his team than any player in the NBA (besides Durant). And when did I say no one else deserved it? KD deserved it. I simply said LeBron deserved it. 9 years of domination.

But Nash deserves one more than anyone in my opinion.

Yes! Totally agree. And I read online that Nash might be in a Knicks Jersey next season....
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6/22/2012 1:21:42 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 1:20:29 AM, Apollo.11 wrote:
And besides, OKC can't win next year, it's Dallas' turn again. :)

D Will + Kidd + Kendall Marshall (if we pick him up) is the best PG lineup in the NBA. Dirk at PF, maybe even Roy Hibbert at Center (with the high-flyin' B Wright option Cuban will obviously take to back him up).

It's unlikely that we get D Will and Hibbert, but ya never know.

I bet you Mavs fans would piss yourselves if you got Steve Nash back.
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6/22/2012 1:24:02 AM
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At 6/22/2012 1:18:59 AM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:16:58 AM, Skyhook wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:10:01 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:09:19 AM, Agent_Orange wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:02:46 AM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
Honestly, I think the ring is cheapened for Lebron James.

He had to go on a super team like Miami to get, while Micheal Jordan and Magic Johnson brought their teams to greatness.

That's not true. You obviously have no idea Who Scottie pippen is or The Showtime Lakers. Magic Johnson played with at least three other eventual Hall Of Farmers.

This. Every historically dominant player has had hall of famers next to them.

True except maybe Hakeem and the Rockets in '94. He had a good squad of role players though.

Eh, he was helped by Jordan not being there, and he won his 2nd ring with Clyde Drexler. Nonetheless, Hakeem's first ring was a special anomaly. And probably so was the Pistons' ring in 2004.

Agreed. It's almost a crime that the 90s didn't get to see Hakeem's Rockets (preferably '95) vs. MJ's Bulls.
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6/22/2012 1:24:26 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 1:21:14 AM, Agent_Orange wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:17:07 AM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:06:58 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:00:19 AM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 6/22/2012 12:56:04 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 6/21/2012 10:56:19 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
LeBron will finally get his well-deserved ring.

What makes it "well-deserved"?

He's the best overall player in the NBA. 3 time RS MVP (one of only 6 people to to be RSMVP and not have a ring until tonight).He has 9 years in the NBA without a ring and made it his mission this season to get one. He trained over the off season and during the lockout for that purpose. Future HOF'er, he deserved the ring.

I'll bet that nearly everyone did that. And I'll bet he wasn't the only person in the NBA that put all their effort into winning a championship. What has he really done that puts a "deserves" for him, but no one else?
He trained with past Hall of Famer's (forgot specifically who) to improve different aspects of his game. How many players did that?

And of course he deserves it more. He was the MVP. He did more to carry his team than any player in the NBA (besides Durant). And when did I say no one else deserved it? KD deserved it. I simply said LeBron deserved it. 9 years of domination.

But Nash deserves one more than anyone in my opinion.

Yes! Totally agree. And I read online that Nash might be in a Knicks Jersey next season....
Nash, Amare, Chandler...interesting. (And no I won't mention Anthony--hate worthless volume shooters). He may even end up in a Miami uniform if he takes a massive pay cut.
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6/22/2012 1:25:50 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/22/2012 1:21:42 AM, daytonanerd wrote:
At 6/22/2012 1:20:29 AM, Apollo.11 wrote:
And besides, OKC can't win next year, it's Dallas' turn again. :)

D Will + Kidd + Kendall Marshall (if we pick him up) is the best PG lineup in the NBA. Dirk at PF, maybe even Roy Hibbert at Center (with the high-flyin' B Wright option Cuban will obviously take to back him up).

It's unlikely that we get D Will and Hibbert, but ya never know.

I bet you Mavs fans would piss yourselves if you got Steve Nash back.
That would be great, but Cuban's looking more long-term now. That's why they're pushing for D Will and Howard. AND Deron has said who he signs with he'll stay for the rest of his career with.
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