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Top 5 QBs, NFL Awards

R0b1Billion
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12/22/2012 1:29:49 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Alphabetized for impartiality; format = yards - TD/INT - RAT
Brady................4,276 - 30/06 - 100.1
Brees................4,335 - 36/18 - 93.1
Manning............4,016 - 31/10 - 103.5
Rodgers............3,588 - 32/08 - 104.7
Ryan.................4,202 - 27/14 - 97.5

Brees leads in TDs and yards, but is throwing quite a few picks and is the lowest-rated as a result. Ryan has the worst TD/INT ratio, so it appears that Rodgers, Brady, and Manning have a three-way tie at this point.

I considered rushing stats as well while building this list, to perhaps give Griffin or Wilson a shot. Rushing certainly boosts them, however they are still worlds apart from these veterans. While observing the rushing stats I found some interesting numbers:

Format = Yards - Yards per attempt - TDs - First downs - Fumbles
Tom Brady..........032 - 1.4 - 4 - 11 - 1
Drew Brees.........006 - 0.4 - 1 - 02 - 0
Peyton Manning...006 - 0.3 - 0 - 02 - 0
Aaron Rodgers....248 - 5.0 - 1 - 19 - 0
Matt Ryan...........105 - 3.5 - 1 - 07 - 1

The only rushing statistic Rodgers doesn't dominate is TDs, as Brady has 4 (probably off of sneaks as opposed to great running - simply a matter of circumstance). Rodgers blows them all out of the water in yardage, first-downs, and yards per attempt, and hasn't fumbled yet. Rodgers' TD came on a 27-yard run, not a sneak, and at 5 yards per attempt the defense becomes simply helpless once Rodgers escapes the pocket. Nothing kills the spirit of a defense more than covering the receivers just to watch the QB run away with it.

So in conclusion, Rodgers is much more dynamic and useful than any other QB. Rodgers should get the MVP because he is simply the most useful player there is; IOWs, if anyone was going to start an NFL team and had first pick of anyone, Rodgers would HAVE to be your first selection or you'd be a fool.

Peterson is hands-down the most talented relative to his position, but this just isn't a RB's league anymore. He could break the yardage record, but his net production will still pale compared to his own QB, who is considered among the worst around. An elite Qb will get three times as many yards as he could. I also don't think Peterson should get come-back POTY because he really didn't come back at all. He played out nearly the entire season last year and barely missed a beat. Compare that to Manning, who lost his starting job, had an entire year off on IR, and is leading the hottest team in the NFL right now straight to the Superbowl.

MVP - Rodgers
Come-back Player - P. Manning
Rookie OTY - A. Luck (I think I've made my argument for him already)
Defensive POY - Probably Von Miller, but I haven't looked at those so much yet
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12/22/2012 11:11:11 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Rodgers doesn't deserve MVP. Manning or AP. In fact, just give it to Peterson. I don't think there is any player more valuable than Adrian Peterson. Btw Jim Harbaugh for coach of the year!
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12/22/2012 11:42:23 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Rodgers would be a contender if this wasn't such a QB-driven league. His numbers are great, as usual, but given that there's 5 other dominant QB's, its harder to vote for him.

I'd say,

1. Peterson
2. Brady
3. Peyton
4. Rodgers
5. RG3

Brady over Peyton because he has 4 fewer interceptions. RG3 goes above Ryan since he has a dominant team around him, and Brees because he's an interception machine (tied for league lead with Andrew Luck). I don't see how Brees is even mentioned tbh.

Whoever wins MVP will probably lose comeback player of the year. It makes sense for it to be a de facto consolation prize.
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12/22/2012 7:04:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/22/2012 2:02:32 PM, Koopin wrote:
Mark Sanchez should be in the top five.

Don't forget the high and mighty Curtis Painter.
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12/22/2012 7:16:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/22/2012 7:04:48 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 12/22/2012 2:02:32 PM, Koopin wrote:
Mark Sanchez should be in the top five.

Don't forget the high and mighty Curtis Painter.

That's a hall of farmer right there.
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12/22/2012 8:38:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/22/2012 7:16:42 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 12/22/2012 7:04:48 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 12/22/2012 2:02:32 PM, Koopin wrote:
Mark Sanchez should be in the top five.

Don't forget the high and mighty Curtis Painter.

That's a hall of farmer right there.

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12/22/2012 9:50:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 12/22/2012 8:38:46 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 12/22/2012 7:16:42 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 12/22/2012 7:04:48 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 12/22/2012 2:02:32 PM, Koopin wrote:
Mark Sanchez should be in the top five.

Don't forget the high and mighty Curtis Painter.

That's a hall of farmer right there.

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12/22/2012 10:04:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Guys you are being silly. Phillip Rivers is obvs best QB of all time. He's gonna get Comeback and MVP in his sleep.
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