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comoncents
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1/14/2010 3:54:29 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
I was arguing with my father-in-law about this.
He said that Black QB's are cursed and a team should never ride one to the Superbowl, b/c they will lose. He thinks that they are not smart enough to go all the way and win.

I think it is crazy!

There is just more White Qb's so probability is on the side of the White Qb's but is there anyone here that believe this craziness.

I thought it was just him but all of my friends seem to think the same as he does.

Side note-
Doug Williams is actually the only African American to own the rights to being the first black Quarterback to have won the Super Bowl. Everyone else was along for the ride!
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1/14/2010 4:43:14 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Obviously there's no merit or basis for that ignorant claim.

You're right - black people don't typically play the position of QB, so statistically speaking it makes sense that there haven't been any super successful ones. Give it time.
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1/14/2010 4:48:41 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Lol, I could've sworn they used to say black people sucked at sports, too (basketball, football, baseball). Look how quickly that turned around. :)
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1/14/2010 4:52:21 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 4:48:41 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
Lol, I could've sworn they used to say black people sucked at sports, too (basketball, football, baseball). Look how quickly that turned around. :)

Black people dominate everything they do lol. Look at sports. A black guy is even the #1 GOLFER! And I thought that and tennis were "white people sports" ...? The Williams sisters, anyone? Baskteball - check. NFL - yep. MLB - Uh huh. Even soccer in other countries. Just give it time and they will own ice hockey too :p
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1/14/2010 5:06:23 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 4:52:21 PM, theLwerd wrote:
Black people dominate everything they do lol.

Well, besides sports...

Look at sports.

That's the only place to look really.

A black guy is even the #1 GOLFER!

See: the rest of the leaderboard.

And I thought that and tennis were "white people sports"

Well, if by "white people sports" you mean that whites dominate the leaderboards -- then yes, that's true.

The Williams sisters, anyone?

Two black women are not indicative of everyone on the leaderboard.

Baskteball - check. NFL - yep.

Agreed, except QB, some lineman, kickers, and punters in the NFL; and head coaches are usually white.

MLB - Uh huh.

Whites dominate MLB.

Even soccer in other countries.

What other countries? Western Europeans and South Americans tend to be the best, if my limited knowledge of soccer is correct.

Just give it time and they will own ice hockey too :p

Highly doubtful.
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1/14/2010 5:22:45 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
Nags - Did you really take/spend all that time responding to every single thing I said? Are you really that bored? Obviously my generalizations are meant to be taken lightly. I'm not saying that blacks dominate EVERYTHING just as whites don't dominate everything. I was speaking very broadly. To answer your questions and comments, obviously the Williams sisters are not representatives of all of tennis, but they're pretty dominant and consistent in today's game. Tiger's the best golfer ever. Jim Brown's arguably the best NFL player ever. Also, yes, the MLB is 60% white -- but a lot of the best players in the game are not white (Albert Pujols, Hanley Ramirez, A-Rod, Johan Santana, etc.). But yes, if it makes you feel better - you're right. Black people have only dominated sports, and on a small scale. Again - I thought it was obvious that I was speaking jokingly and what the point of my generalization was. Don't smiley faces me anything anymore? :)
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1/14/2010 5:35:24 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 5:26:08 PM, Koopin wrote:
Not that this matters, but Tiger is half white.

Not that this matters, but no he isn't. :) If he's half anything it's Asian.
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1/14/2010 6:01:35 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 5:26:08 PM, Koopin wrote:
Not that this matters, but Tiger is half white.

Actually, if you bothered to check your facts, you'd have remembered that he is half black and half asian. His mother was from Thailand.
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1/14/2010 6:26:09 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 4:43:14 PM, theLwerd wrote:
Obviously there's no merit or basis for that ignorant claim.

You're right - black people don't typically play the position of QB, so statistically speaking it makes sense that there haven't been any super successful ones. Give it time.

That is what i said, but i could not believe that other thought this way.
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1/14/2010 6:29:47 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 5:26:08 PM, Koopin wrote:
Not that this matters, but Tiger is half white.

See, that is the key, hybrids.

Half white, half black. Than it would be an elite QB.

Hmmmm, is world domination next.
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1/14/2010 9:58:38 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 6:29:47 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 5:26:08 PM, Koopin wrote:
Not that this matters, but Tiger is half white.

See, that is the key, hybrids.

Half white, half black. Than it would be an elite QB.

Hmmmm, is world domination next.

So does anyone agree or does everyone disagree?
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1/14/2010 10:18:24 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:58:38 PM, comoncents wrote:

See, that is the key, hybrids.

Half white, half black. Than it would be an elite QB.

Hmmmm, is world domination next.

So does anyone agree or does everyone disagree?

lol disagree, b/c in saying that, it would seem you're saying that racial differences are important for these kinds of things, which may or may not be true, but to assert it as such you should prove it.

And showing that Blacks dominate a couple of sports doesn't do that, just as showing that Whites dominate colleges doesn't prove that being 'white' provides one with greater intellectual capacities.

There are many social factors which go into determining who ends up where.

Are there important differences amongst races, perhaps (as in that Pygmys wouldn't be good at Basketball), but in many cases (especially with intelligence)it would be difficult to show. And I rarely hear someone adequately back up there claims when they claim such differences.
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1/15/2010 7:15:46 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 9:58:38 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 6:29:47 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 5:26:08 PM, Koopin wrote:
Not that this matters, but Tiger is half white.

See, that is the key, hybrids.

Half white, half black. Than it would be an elite QB.

Hmmmm, is world domination next.

So does anyone agree or does everyone disagree?

Yeah! I'm a half black and half white!
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1/15/2010 1:05:59 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/15/2010 7:15:46 AM, Koopin wrote:
At 1/14/2010 9:58:38 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 6:29:47 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/14/2010 5:26:08 PM, Koopin wrote:
Not that this matters, but Tiger is half white.

See, that is the key, hybrids.

Half white, half black. Than it would be an elite QB.

Hmmmm, is world domination next.

So does anyone agree or does everyone disagree?

Yeah! I'm a half black and half white!

hybrid, you have intelligence and crazy athletic ability!
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1/15/2010 1:16:49 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
The whites of a black quarterback's eyes contrast more clearly with their skin than of a white quarterback's eyes. This is the biggest part of the eye, easiest for the DB's to read presumably. Thus, in coverage schemes that utilize "reading the quarterback's eyes," other things equal perhaps worse performance?
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1/15/2010 1:26:23 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/15/2010 1:16:49 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
The whites of a black quarterback's eyes contrast more clearly with their skin than of a white quarterback's eyes. This is the biggest part of the eye, easiest for the DB's to read presumably. Thus, in coverage schemes that utilize "reading the quarterback's eyes," other things equal perhaps worse performance?

Wow, that is a great point.
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1/15/2010 5:59:55 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/14/2010 3:54:29 PM, comoncents wrote:
I was arguing with my father-in-law about this.
He said that Black QB's are cursed and a team should never ride one to the Superbowl, b/c they will lose. He thinks that they are not smart enough to go all the way and win.

I think it is crazy!

There is just more White Qb's so probability is on the side of the White Qb's but is there anyone here that believe this craziness.

I thought it was just him but all of my friends seem to think the same as he does.


Side note-
Doug Williams is actually the only African American to own the rights to being the first black Quarterback to have won the Super Bowl. Everyone else was along for the ride!

DOUG WILLIAMS thats all i know but that is proof he is wrong lol
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1/15/2010 9:55:04 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/15/2010 5:59:55 PM, sllewuy wrote:
At 1/14/2010 3:54:29 PM, comoncents wrote:
I was arguing with my father-in-law about this.
He said that Black QB's are cursed and a team should never ride one to the Superbowl, b/c they will lose. He thinks that they are not smart enough to go all the way and win.

I think it is crazy!

There is just more White Qb's so probability is on the side of the White Qb's but is there anyone here that believe this craziness.

I thought it was just him but all of my friends seem to think the same as he does.


Side note-
Doug Williams is actually the only African American to own the rights to being the first black Quarterback to have won the Super Bowl. Everyone else was along for the ride!

DOUG WILLIAMS thats all i know but that is proof he is wrong lol

I put that in there, but what other black have you seen get close, mcnair?

That was a good game and they should have won!
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1/15/2010 11:13:27 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 1/15/2010 9:55:04 PM, comoncents wrote:
At 1/15/2010 5:59:55 PM, sllewuy wrote:
At 1/14/2010 3:54:29 PM, comoncents wrote:
I was arguing with my father-in-law about this.
He said that Black QB's are cursed and a team should never ride one to the Superbowl, b/c they will lose. He thinks that they are not smart enough to go all the way and win.

I think it is crazy!

There is just more White Qb's so probability is on the side of the White Qb's but is there anyone here that believe this craziness.

I thought it was just him but all of my friends seem to think the same as he does.


Side note-
Doug Williams is actually the only African American to own the rights to being the first black Quarterback to have won the Super Bowl. Everyone else was along for the ride!

DOUG WILLIAMS thats all i know but that is proof he is wrong lol

I put that in there, but what other black have you seen get close, mcnair?

That was a good game and they should have won!

LOL stopped at the 1