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Baseball Is Better: 10 Reasons

WisdomFromAllSources
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9/23/2014 11:52:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
A.] No out-of-bounds. A player may run out of room, but there is no out-of-bounds that negates a play if he/she steps in it or results in a penalty if the ball lands in it.

B.] Everybody in the offensive lineup scores. In football, only ball carriers and kickers score (I do not know if anybody gets credit for scoring on a safety, but that is the defense, not the offense). There are probably other examples of sports where players on the field on offense do not score.

C.] As many as four offensive players can score on one play (a grand slam). Is that possible in basketball, hockey, etc.?

D.] No clock. No controversy over how much time should be left / be taken off the clock.

E.] More action than most sports; action is almost non-stop within frames (a frame is an inning, quarter, half, round, etc.) . Football: a lot of breaks in action between plays. Basketball: a lot of breaks in action, such as after a foul is called. Probably the only way to see more action is to watch a race of some kind.

F.] No ridiculous judgement calls to be made by the referees (did he have possession of the ball before his foot touched out-of-bounds?; was the defender set before the ball handler ran into her?; etc.).

G.] Winning is always possible for both sides until the contest is officially over. If it is the bottom of the ninth, there are 2 outs, and you are behind 20-1, you can still come back and win. In basketball, if there is one minute remaining and you are behind by 20 points, you have no way of winning. In football, if there are 5 minutes remaining and you are behind by 48 points, there is no way for you to win.

H.] An entire season is played in a single calendar year. Have you ever heard of the 1988-89, 2005-06, etc. world champions in baseball? Have ever heard of the upcoming 2014-15 season in baseball?

I.] Baseball is almost never about the coaches, the "programs", leagues/conferences, etc. It is almost always about two things: the game, and the players. How often in baseball do you hear about "the winningest coach of all time", coaching pedigrees, schemes, "offensive-minded" or "defensive-minded" coaches, debates about the best conference/league, etc.?

J.] Purists. The mound may be lowered, the ball changed, etc. to increase offense, but the game is not constantly being changed to increase TV ratings, be "more exciting", appease powerful interests, etc. And all baseball games are played in the same kind of venue--nothing like having the Final Four in a football stadium.
inferno
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10/2/2014 4:37:57 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/23/2014 11:52:25 PM, WisdomFromAllSources wrote:
A.] No out-of-bounds. A player may run out of room, but there is no out-of-bounds that negates a play if he/she steps in it or results in a penalty if the ball lands in it.

B.] Everybody in the offensive lineup scores. In football, only ball carriers and kickers score (I do not know if anybody gets credit for scoring on a safety, but that is the defense, not the offense). There are probably other examples of sports where players on the field on offense do not score.

C.] As many as four offensive players can score on one play (a grand slam). Is that possible in basketball, hockey, etc.?

D.] No clock. No controversy over how much time should be left / be taken off the clock.

E.] More action than most sports; action is almost non-stop within frames (a frame is an inning, quarter, half, round, etc.) . Football: a lot of breaks in action between plays. Basketball: a lot of breaks in action, such as after a foul is called. Probably the only way to see more action is to watch a race of some kind.

F.] No ridiculous judgement calls to be made by the referees (did he have possession of the ball before his foot touched out-of-bounds?; was the defender set before the ball handler ran into her?; etc.).

G.] Winning is always possible for both sides until the contest is officially over. If it is the bottom of the ninth, there are 2 outs, and you are behind 20-1, you can still come back and win. In basketball, if there is one minute remaining and you are behind by 20 points, you have no way of winning. In football, if there are 5 minutes remaining and you are behind by 48 points, there is no way for you to win.

H.] An entire season is played in a single calendar year. Have you ever heard of the 1988-89, 2005-06, etc. world champions in baseball? Have ever heard of the upcoming 2014-15 season in baseball?

I.] Baseball is almost never about the coaches, the "programs", leagues/conferences, etc. It is almost always about two things: the game, and the players. How often in baseball do you hear about "the winningest coach of all time", coaching pedigrees, schemes, "offensive-minded" or "defensive-minded" coaches, debates about the best conference/league, etc.?

J.] Purists. The mound may be lowered, the ball changed, etc. to increase offense, but the game is not constantly being changed to increase TV ratings, be "more exciting", appease powerful interests, etc. And all baseball games are played in the same kind of venue--nothing like having the Final Four in a football stadium.

You couldn't possibly be serious. Ten reasons why baseball sucks.

1) Its slow
2)Its redundant
3)Its passive
4)Its boring
5)Its lack of pure talent
6) Too commercialized
7) Too many seasonal games
8)Too long a season
9) Lack of storylines and depth
10) Nobody even knows who plays anymore !
Khaos_Mage
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10/4/2014 9:29:01 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/23/2014 11:52:25 PM, WisdomFromAllSources wrote:
A.] No out-of-bounds. A player may run out of room, but there is no out-of-bounds that negates a play if he/she steps in it or results in a penalty if the ball lands in it.
Except foul balls and running outside the base line.

B.] Everybody in the offensive lineup scores. In football, only ball carriers and kickers score (I do not know if anybody gets credit for scoring on a safety, but that is the defense, not the offense). There are probably other examples of sports where players on the field on offense do not score.
Anyone can score in football, but it is unlikely.
Also, except for home runs, no one on the lineup scores by themselves. It is a team game, and scoring in other sports is also a team effort.

C.] As many as four offensive players can score on one play (a grand slam). Is that possible in basketball, hockey, etc.?
Technically, only one person scored, they got 3 rbi and a home run.
Do the states show that the nonbatter scored? Pretty sure it doesn't.

D.] No clock. No controversy over how much time should be left / be taken off the clock.
Fair point.

E.] More action than most sports; action is almost non-stop within frames (a frame is an inning, quarter, half, round, etc.) . Football: a lot of breaks in action between plays. Basketball: a lot of breaks in action, such as after a foul is called. Probably the only way to see more action is to watch a race of some kind.
There is plenty of delay between pitches and changing of the field 17 times and seventh inning stretch.

F.] No ridiculous judgement calls to be made by the referees (did he have possession of the ball before his foot touched out-of-bounds?; was the defender set before the ball handler ran into her?; etc.).
Because no umpire ever made a bad call at the plate or strike/ball....

G.] Winning is always possible for both sides until the contest is officially over. If it is the bottom of the ninth, there are 2 outs, and you are behind 20-1, you can still come back and win. In basketball, if there is one minute remaining and you are behind by 20 points, you have no way of winning. In football, if there are 5 minutes remaining and you are behind by 48 points, there is no way for you to win.
Fair point.
But, in either case, the game is essentially over and most people stop caring.

H.] An entire season is played in a single calendar year. Have you ever heard of the 1988-89, 2005-06, etc. world champions in baseball? Have ever heard of the upcoming 2014-15 season in baseball?
This is petty and stupid.
An entire football season is played in a federal fiscal year, while baseball isn't. Baseball is unamerican.

I.] Baseball is almost never about the coaches, the "programs", leagues/conferences, etc. It is almost always about two things: the game, and the players. How often in baseball do you hear about "the winningest coach of all time", coaching pedigrees, schemes, "offensive-minded" or "defensive-minded" coaches, debates about the best conference/league, etc.?
Because no one has ever complained that the Yankees are a moneyball team....

J.] Purists. The mound may be lowered, the ball changed, etc. to increase offense, but the game is not constantly being changed to increase TV ratings, be "more exciting", appease powerful interests, etc. And all baseball games are played in the same kind of venue--nothing like having the Final Four in a football stadium.
So, baseball changes the game, but it's okay? I don't understand your point.
As to your second, I also don't understand. For decades, the Minnesota Twins and the Minnesota Vikings played in the Metrodome. One field, two sports.
My work here is, finally, done.
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10/6/2014 9:41:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 9/23/2014 11:52:25 PM, WisdomFromAllSources wrote:
A.] No out-of-bounds. A player may run out of room, but there is no out-of-bounds that negates a play if he/she steps in it or results in a penalty if the ball lands in it.

I would argue a home run counts as an out of bounds play.

B.] Everybody in the offensive lineup scores. In football, only ball carriers and kickers score (I do not know if anybody gets credit for scoring on a safety, but that is the defense, not the offense). There are probably other examples of sports where players on the field on offense do not score.

Anyone in football can score, it is just very hard - which is the fun of it. It can be a kicker or ballcarrier, yes, but also a quarterback, receiver, defensive player, or lineman can score.

C.] As many as four offensive players can score on one play (a grand slam). Is that possible in basketball, hockey, etc.?

How is this a good thing?

D.] No clock. No controversy over how much time should be left / be taken off the clock.

I'd argue this is an awful thing because it brings the game to a screeching halt and can result in 6-hour baseball games.

E.] More action than most sports; action is almost non-stop within frames (a frame is an inning, quarter, half, round, etc.) . Football: a lot of breaks in action between plays. Basketball: a lot of breaks in action, such as after a foul is called. Probably the only way to see more action is to watch a race of some kind.

This depends on how you define 'action'. I don't define a pitch as an action, I define a successful hit (ie. the bat hits the ball and something happens) as an action. There are massive breaks between actions, and some games (no hitters or perfect games) may have little to no action at all from one side. In football, on the other hand, every play is an action. Plays happen far more frequently than hits.

F.] No ridiculous judgement calls to be made by the referees (did he have possession of the ball before his foot touched out-of-bounds?; was the defender set before the ball handler ran into her?; etc.).

Except for the ump having to make judgement calls on strikes, whether a play is safe, etc.

G.] Winning is always possible for both sides until the contest is officially over. If it is the bottom of the ninth, there are 2 outs, and you are behind 20-1, you can still come back and win. In basketball, if there is one minute remaining and you are behind by 20 points, you have no way of winning. In football, if there are 5 minutes remaining and you are behind by 48 points, there is no way for you to win.

This is purely theoretical. Has this actually ever happened? No.

H.] An entire season is played in a single calendar year. Have you ever heard of the 1988-89, 2005-06, etc. world champions in baseball? Have ever heard of the upcoming 2014-15 season in baseball?

I would argue this is incredibly negative. There are 162 games per team, making any one game statistically meaningless. And baseball isn't even unique in this regard as racing also has a long schedule, just with fewer events.

I.] Baseball is almost never about the coaches, the "programs", leagues/conferences, etc. It is almost always about two things: the game, and the players. How often in baseball do you hear about "the winningest coach of all time", coaching pedigrees, schemes, "offensive-minded" or "defensive-minded" coaches, debates about the best conference/league, etc.?

This is laughable as these happen all the time. People debate the best program (Yankees or someone else), best league (NL or AL), best coach, best player, or best rule (designated hitter)?

J.] Purists. The mound may be lowered, the ball changed, etc. to increase offense, but the game is not constantly being changed to increase TV ratings, be "more exciting", appease powerful interests, etc. And all baseball games are played in the same kind of venue--nothing like having the Final Four in a football stadium.

Tradition does not equal a good game. Baseball, like soccer, has lagged behind other sports by refusing to modernize rules. That doesn't involved changing the game, but doing something like adding instant replay for close base situations or the like.

Football rules aren't changed to make it more exciting, but to make the game 'safer'.