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3/9/2015 1:17:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Patrick Willis is retiring, Jim Harbaugh has left, Justin Smith is probably gonna retire, Aldon Smith is on his last strike, Navarro Bowman still might not be healthy, Frank Gore went to the Eagles, Crabtree doesn't want to stay, and Colin Kaepernick is healthy as an ox. This is not a good time for 49ers fans...
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3/9/2015 7:18:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Looks like they're losing their center Iupati as well. To the Cardies no less.
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- Objectivity is secondary to subjectivity.
- The War on Drugs is the worst policy in the U.S.
- Most people worship technology as a religion.
- Computers will never become sentient.
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3/9/2015 9:34:09 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Also, rumors that they were actually shopping Kap and now Miller has been arrested for spousal abuse (probably won't get just a two game suspension).
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3/9/2015 9:37:42 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Oh, and Crabtree is leaving (to Seattle, that would be hilarious, but would never happen).
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3/9/2015 10:27:03 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 9:34:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Also, rumors that they were actually shopping Kap and now Miller has been arrested for spousal abuse (probably won't get just a two game suspension).

So are we going to find out just how bad Kaepernick is this year or what
Beliefs in a nutshell:
- The Ends never justify the Means.
- Objectivity is secondary to subjectivity.
- The War on Drugs is the worst policy in the U.S.
- Most people worship technology as a religion.
- Computers will never become sentient.
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3/9/2015 10:30:41 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 10:27:03 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
At 3/9/2015 9:34:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Also, rumors that they were actually shopping Kap and now Miller has been arrested for spousal abuse (probably won't get just a two game suspension).

So are we going to find out just how bad Kaepernick is this year or what

I feel for him. He's not THAT bad (not a top tier QB, but half the league wouldn't mind him being on their team), but the west is one hell of a defensive division and he will suffer because of it.
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3/10/2015 2:42:58 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 10:30:41 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:27:03 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
At 3/9/2015 9:34:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Also, rumors that they were actually shopping Kap and now Miller has been arrested for spousal abuse (probably won't get just a two game suspension).

So are we going to find out just how bad Kaepernick is this year or what

I feel for him. He's not THAT bad (not a top tier QB, but half the league wouldn't mind him being on their team), but the west is one hell of a defensive division and he will suffer because of it.

Hard to see the 49ers not bottoming out in that division, I'd have to predict they come out dead-last. Although the Rams somehow always find a way to fail even though there's a dream-team worth of talent over there...

In other news, the Packers are keeping both their star free agents (Cobb and Bulaga) and it's hard to imagine them not locking the division up by week 10.
Beliefs in a nutshell:
- The Ends never justify the Means.
- Objectivity is secondary to subjectivity.
- The War on Drugs is the worst policy in the U.S.
- Most people worship technology as a religion.
- Computers will never become sentient.
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3/10/2015 2:55:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/9/2015 10:30:41 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:27:03 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
At 3/9/2015 9:34:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Also, rumors that they were actually shopping Kap and now Miller has been arrested for spousal abuse (probably won't get just a two game suspension).

So are we going to find out just how bad Kaepernick is this year or what

I feel for him. He's not THAT bad (not a top tier QB, but half the league wouldn't mind him being on their team), but the west is one hell of a defensive division and he will suffer because of it.

The fact that offense had Frank Gore, Anquan Boldin, Michael Crabtree, Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, and Vernon Davis, along with one of best blocking fullback and offensive lines in the league, shows otherwise. Kaepernick is awful. If the Niners still had Alex Smith they might have won a Super Bowl.
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3/10/2015 7:27:43 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 2:55:35 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:30:41 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:27:03 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
At 3/9/2015 9:34:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Also, rumors that they were actually shopping Kap and now Miller has been arrested for spousal abuse (probably won't get just a two game suspension).

So are we going to find out just how bad Kaepernick is this year or what

I feel for him. He's not THAT bad (not a top tier QB, but half the league wouldn't mind him being on their team), but the west is one hell of a defensive division and he will suffer because of it.

The fact that offense had Frank Gore, Anquan Boldin, Michael Crabtree, Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, and Vernon Davis, along with one of best blocking fullback and offensive lines in the league, shows otherwise. Kaepernick is awful. If the Niners still had Alex Smith they might have won a Super Bowl.

Probably not. If they still had Alex, they probably wouldn't have seen the super bowl. He's destroyed the Packers in big games and gone head to head with the Seahawks in 2014 to come only just shy. Smith would never have gotten that far.
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3/10/2015 7:32:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 7:27:43 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 2:55:35 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:30:41 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:27:03 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
At 3/9/2015 9:34:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Also, rumors that they were actually shopping Kap and now Miller has been arrested for spousal abuse (probably won't get just a two game suspension).

So are we going to find out just how bad Kaepernick is this year or what

I feel for him. He's not THAT bad (not a top tier QB, but half the league wouldn't mind him being on their team), but the west is one hell of a defensive division and he will suffer because of it.

The fact that offense had Frank Gore, Anquan Boldin, Michael Crabtree, Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, and Vernon Davis, along with one of best blocking fullback and offensive lines in the league, shows otherwise. Kaepernick is awful. If the Niners still had Alex Smith they might have won a Super Bowl.

Probably not. If they still had Alex, they probably wouldn't have seen the super bowl. He's destroyed the Packers in big games and gone head to head with the Seahawks in 2014 to come only just shy. Smith would never have gotten that far.

And yet when given the best supporting cast in the entire league he was awful. There is really no excuse for that. You think any other top-15 quarterback would have found a way to make that offense suck?
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3/10/2015 7:52:11 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 7:32:06 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/10/2015 7:27:43 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 2:55:35 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:30:41 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:27:03 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
At 3/9/2015 9:34:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Also, rumors that they were actually shopping Kap and now Miller has been arrested for spousal abuse (probably won't get just a two game suspension).

So are we going to find out just how bad Kaepernick is this year or what

I feel for him. He's not THAT bad (not a top tier QB, but half the league wouldn't mind him being on their team), but the west is one hell of a defensive division and he will suffer because of it.

The fact that offense had Frank Gore, Anquan Boldin, Michael Crabtree, Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, and Vernon Davis, along with one of best blocking fullback and offensive lines in the league, shows otherwise. Kaepernick is awful. If the Niners still had Alex Smith they might have won a Super Bowl.

Probably not. If they still had Alex, they probably wouldn't have seen the super bowl. He's destroyed the Packers in big games and gone head to head with the Seahawks in 2014 to come only just shy. Smith would never have gotten that far.

And yet when given the best supporting cast in the entire league he was awful. There is really no excuse for that. You think any other top-15 quarterback would have found a way to make that offense suck?

lol, that was not the "best supporting cast," not even close.
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3/10/2015 7:55:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 7:52:11 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 7:32:06 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/10/2015 7:27:43 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 2:55:35 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:30:41 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:27:03 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
At 3/9/2015 9:34:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Also, rumors that they were actually shopping Kap and now Miller has been arrested for spousal abuse (probably won't get just a two game suspension).

So are we going to find out just how bad Kaepernick is this year or what

I feel for him. He's not THAT bad (not a top tier QB, but half the league wouldn't mind him being on their team), but the west is one hell of a defensive division and he will suffer because of it.

The fact that offense had Frank Gore, Anquan Boldin, Michael Crabtree, Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, and Vernon Davis, along with one of best blocking fullback and offensive lines in the league, shows otherwise. Kaepernick is awful. If the Niners still had Alex Smith they might have won a Super Bowl.

Probably not. If they still had Alex, they probably wouldn't have seen the super bowl. He's destroyed the Packers in big games and gone head to head with the Seahawks in 2014 to come only just shy. Smith would never have gotten that far.

And yet when given the best supporting cast in the entire league he was awful. There is really no excuse for that. You think any other top-15 quarterback would have found a way to make that offense suck?

lol, that was not the "best supporting cast," not even close.

Name me a team with a better overall receiving corps.
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3/10/2015 8:13:54 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 7:55:35 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/10/2015 7:52:11 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 7:32:06 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/10/2015 7:27:43 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 2:55:35 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:30:41 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:27:03 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
At 3/9/2015 9:34:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Also, rumors that they were actually shopping Kap and now Miller has been arrested for spousal abuse (probably won't get just a two game suspension).

So are we going to find out just how bad Kaepernick is this year or what

I feel for him. He's not THAT bad (not a top tier QB, but half the league wouldn't mind him being on their team), but the west is one hell of a defensive division and he will suffer because of it.

The fact that offense had Frank Gore, Anquan Boldin, Michael Crabtree, Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, and Vernon Davis, along with one of best blocking fullback and offensive lines in the league, shows otherwise. Kaepernick is awful. If the Niners still had Alex Smith they might have won a Super Bowl.

Probably not. If they still had Alex, they probably wouldn't have seen the super bowl. He's destroyed the Packers in big games and gone head to head with the Seahawks in 2014 to come only just shy. Smith would never have gotten that far.

And yet when given the best supporting cast in the entire league he was awful. There is really no excuse for that. You think any other top-15 quarterback would have found a way to make that offense suck?

lol, that was not the "best supporting cast," not even close.

Name me a team with a better overall receiving corps.

Denver, Chicago, Detroit, Redskins...
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3/10/2015 8:21:48 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 8:13:54 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 7:55:35 PM, TN05 wrote:
lol, that was not the "best supporting cast," not even close.

Name me a team with a better overall receiving corps.

Denver, Chicago, Detroit, Redskins...

Denver - Only two receivers (Emmanuel Sanders and Demarius Thomas) are good.
Chicago - Once again, only two receivers (Alshon Jeffery and Brandon Marshall) are good receivers.
Detroit - Once again, only two receivers (Calvin Johnson and Golden Tate) are good.
Redskins - Once gain, only two receivers (DeSean Jackson and Pierre Garcon) are good.

San Francisco's top four receivers (Anquan Boldin, Michael Crabtree, Stevie Johnson and Brandon Lloyd) all have had 1,000 yard seasons in the last five years. Boldin, Crabtree, and Johnson would start on basically any team in the league; Lloyd would be a #2 or #3. That sort of depth is unmatched - can you name me Detroit's #3 wideout? How about Washington's or Chicago's?
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3/10/2015 8:34:21 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Looking that the 2014 preseason rankings of NFL.com, Bleacherreport, cover32, sports on earth, and SBNation, the 49ers averaged a ranking of 4.8 (ranging from 2nd to 10th, with 3 4th place finishes).

Only 1 of the 5 raters actually put them in the top 3, compared to Denver (which everyone put in the top 3, with 3 1st place finishes) and Chicago (with 2 top 3, including a #1) and Indi (also with 2 top 3) and Detroit (also with 2 top 3).
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3/10/2015 8:37:12 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 8:21:48 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:13:54 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 7:55:35 PM, TN05 wrote:
lol, that was not the "best supporting cast," not even close.

Name me a team with a better overall receiving corps.

Denver, Chicago, Detroit, Redskins...

Denver - Only two receivers (Emmanuel Sanders and Demarius Thomas) are good.
Chicago - Once again, only two receivers (Alshon Jeffery and Brandon Marshall) are good receivers.
Detroit - Once again, only two receivers (Calvin Johnson and Golden Tate) are good.
Redskins - Once gain, only two receivers (DeSean Jackson and Pierre Garcon) are good.

San Francisco's top four receivers (Anquan Boldin, Michael Crabtree, Stevie Johnson and Brandon Lloyd) all have had 1,000 yard seasons in the last five years. Boldin, Crabtree, and Johnson would start on basically any team in the league; Lloyd would be a #2 or #3. That sort of depth is unmatched - can you name me Detroit's #3 wideout? How about Washington's or Chicago's?

Tight ends are receivers. They are all targets and weapons for their QBs.

Also, for a team with such a great recieving corp, they rank #6 for most dropped passes at 5.2% of targets.

http://www.sportingcharts.com...
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3/10/2015 8:39:28 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 8:34:21 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Looking that the 2014 preseason rankings of NFL.com, Bleacherreport, cover32, sports on earth, and SBNation, the 49ers averaged a ranking of 4.8 (ranging from 2nd to 10th, with 3 4th place finishes).

Only 1 of the 5 raters actually put them in the top 3, compared to Denver (which everyone put in the top 3, with 3 1st place finishes) and Chicago (with 2 top 3, including a #1) and Indi (also with 2 top 3) and Detroit (also with 2 top 3).

Appeal to authority much?
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3/10/2015 8:42:16 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 8:37:12 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:21:48 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:13:54 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 7:55:35 PM, TN05 wrote:
lol, that was not the "best supporting cast," not even close.

Name me a team with a better overall receiving corps.

Denver, Chicago, Detroit, Redskins...

Denver - Only two receivers (Emmanuel Sanders and Demarius Thomas) are good.
Chicago - Once again, only two receivers (Alshon Jeffery and Brandon Marshall) are good receivers.
Detroit - Once again, only two receivers (Calvin Johnson and Golden Tate) are good.
Redskins - Once gain, only two receivers (DeSean Jackson and Pierre Garcon) are good.

San Francisco's top four receivers (Anquan Boldin, Michael Crabtree, Stevie Johnson and Brandon Lloyd) all have had 1,000 yard seasons in the last five years. Boldin, Crabtree, and Johnson would start on basically any team in the league; Lloyd would be a #2 or #3. That sort of depth is unmatched - can you name me Detroit's #3 wideout? How about Washington's or Chicago's?

Tight ends are receivers. They are all targets and weapons for their QBs.

An San Francisco has a great one in Vernon Davis.

Also, for a team with such a great recieving corp, they rank #6 for most dropped passes at 5.2% of targets.

http://www.sportingcharts.com...

If you look at the number of total drops, they have roughly the same as Chicago, Detroit, and Washington.

Besides that thought I'd attribute many of the drops to bad throws. It's hard to catch a horribly thrown pass.
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3/10/2015 8:46:05 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 8:39:28 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:34:21 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Looking that the 2014 preseason rankings of NFL.com, Bleacherreport, cover32, sports on earth, and SBNation, the 49ers averaged a ranking of 4.8 (ranging from 2nd to 10th, with 3 4th place finishes).

Only 1 of the 5 raters actually put them in the top 3, compared to Denver (which everyone put in the top 3, with 3 1st place finishes) and Chicago (with 2 top 3, including a #1) and Indi (also with 2 top 3) and Detroit (also with 2 top 3).

Appeal to authority much?

Yes, like I appeal to my doctor on medical issues. And to a lawyer on legal issues. It is okay to "appeal to authority" when it is actual professionals. I also appeal to statistics. The sad fact is that there is no one that supports your belief, the numbers do not back it up. They have an above average, even pretty good, recieving corp. But it is not even close to the #1.
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3/10/2015 8:48:44 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 8:42:16 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:37:12 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:21:48 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:13:54 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 7:55:35 PM, TN05 wrote:
lol, that was not the "best supporting cast," not even close.

Name me a team with a better overall receiving corps.

Denver, Chicago, Detroit, Redskins...

Denver - Only two receivers (Emmanuel Sanders and Demarius Thomas) are good.
Chicago - Once again, only two receivers (Alshon Jeffery and Brandon Marshall) are good receivers.
Detroit - Once again, only two receivers (Calvin Johnson and Golden Tate) are good.
Redskins - Once gain, only two receivers (DeSean Jackson and Pierre Garcon) are good.

San Francisco's top four receivers (Anquan Boldin, Michael Crabtree, Stevie Johnson and Brandon Lloyd) all have had 1,000 yard seasons in the last five years. Boldin, Crabtree, and Johnson would start on basically any team in the league; Lloyd would be a #2 or #3. That sort of depth is unmatched - can you name me Detroit's #3 wideout? How about Washington's or Chicago's?

Tight ends are receivers. They are all targets and weapons for their QBs.

An San Francisco has a great one in Vernon Davis.

Also, for a team with such a great recieving corp, they rank #6 for most dropped passes at 5.2% of targets.

http://www.sportingcharts.com...

If you look at the number of total drops, they have roughly the same as Chicago, Detroit, and Washington.

Besides that thought I'd attribute many of the drops to bad throws. It's hard to catch a horribly thrown pass.

Bad throws are classified as incomplete passes. Drops are 100% on the receiver, not the QB. Also, you are only looking at the total. It is the % that counts. The fact that receivers for Chicago had 124 more targets and 2 fewer drops.
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3/10/2015 8:50:24 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 8:46:05 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:39:28 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:34:21 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Looking that the 2014 preseason rankings of NFL.com, Bleacherreport, cover32, sports on earth, and SBNation, the 49ers averaged a ranking of 4.8 (ranging from 2nd to 10th, with 3 4th place finishes).

Only 1 of the 5 raters actually put them in the top 3, compared to Denver (which everyone put in the top 3, with 3 1st place finishes) and Chicago (with 2 top 3, including a #1) and Indi (also with 2 top 3) and Detroit (also with 2 top 3).

Appeal to authority much?

Yes, like I appeal to my doctor on medical issues. And to a lawyer on legal issues. It is okay to "appeal to authority" when it is actual professionals. I also appeal to statistics. The sad fact is that there is no one that supports your belief, the numbers do not back it up. They have an above average, even pretty good, recieving corp. But it is not even close to the #1.

I'd argue SBNation or Bleacher Report are hardly authorities on the topic.
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3/10/2015 8:52:02 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 8:50:24 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:46:05 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:39:28 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:34:21 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Looking that the 2014 preseason rankings of NFL.com, Bleacherreport, cover32, sports on earth, and SBNation, the 49ers averaged a ranking of 4.8 (ranging from 2nd to 10th, with 3 4th place finishes).

Only 1 of the 5 raters actually put them in the top 3, compared to Denver (which everyone put in the top 3, with 3 1st place finishes) and Chicago (with 2 top 3, including a #1) and Indi (also with 2 top 3) and Detroit (also with 2 top 3).

Appeal to authority much?

Yes, like I appeal to my doctor on medical issues. And to a lawyer on legal issues. It is okay to "appeal to authority" when it is actual professionals. I also appeal to statistics. The sad fact is that there is no one that supports your belief, the numbers do not back it up. They have an above average, even pretty good, recieving corp. But it is not even close to the #1.

I'd argue SBNation or Bleacher Report are hardly authorities on the topic.

lol, ESPN routinely turns to Bleacher Report. I thought it anything you'd argue against cover32 and sports on earth.
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3/10/2015 8:52:35 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 8:52:02 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:50:24 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:46:05 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:39:28 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/10/2015 8:34:21 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Looking that the 2014 preseason rankings of NFL.com, Bleacherreport, cover32, sports on earth, and SBNation, the 49ers averaged a ranking of 4.8 (ranging from 2nd to 10th, with 3 4th place finishes).

Only 1 of the 5 raters actually put them in the top 3, compared to Denver (which everyone put in the top 3, with 3 1st place finishes) and Chicago (with 2 top 3, including a #1) and Indi (also with 2 top 3) and Detroit (also with 2 top 3).

Appeal to authority much?

Yes, like I appeal to my doctor on medical issues. And to a lawyer on legal issues. It is okay to "appeal to authority" when it is actual professionals. I also appeal to statistics. The sad fact is that there is no one that supports your belief, the numbers do not back it up. They have an above average, even pretty good, recieving corp. But it is not even close to the #1.

I'd argue SBNation or Bleacher Report are hardly authorities on the topic.

lol, ESPN routinely turns to Bleacher Report. I thought it anything you'd argue against cover32 and sports on earth.

Eh, it's just kind of fun to crap on Bleacher Report. :P
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3/11/2015 10:12:15 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Yes it would appear the Niners are once again entering a Dark age. Thats ok. I can cry tears of Red and Gold

As for Kap's skill, he has great talent. If you're a packers fan you shouldn't even question that. Last year he struggled for two reasons.

1) they tried forcing him into a pocket passer. Stupid. No QB has thrown more TD's or has a better passing rating OUTSIDE the pocket than Colin since he came into the league

2) Our offensive line that was for years the most solid in the NFL got rocked hard last year with injuries. This forced Vernon Davis too play a more blocking role.
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3/14/2015 8:10:38 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/10/2015 2:55:35 PM, TN05 wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:30:41 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/9/2015 10:27:03 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
At 3/9/2015 9:34:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Also, rumors that they were actually shopping Kap and now Miller has been arrested for spousal abuse (probably won't get just a two game suspension).

So are we going to find out just how bad Kaepernick is this year or what

I feel for him. He's not THAT bad (not a top tier QB, but half the league wouldn't mind him being on their team), but the west is one hell of a defensive division and he will suffer because of it.

The fact that offense had Frank Gore, Anquan Boldin, Michael Crabtree, Stevie Johnson, Brandon Lloyd, and Vernon Davis, along with one of best blocking fullback and offensive lines in the league, shows otherwise. Kaepernick is awful. If the Niners still had Alex Smith they might have won a Super Bowl.

Agreed, it's like you could have replaced Kurt Warner with Colin Kaepernick in the Greatest Show on Turf and it still wouldn't have been able to score points!
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3/14/2015 8:22:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/11/2015 10:12:15 PM, Agent_Orange wrote:
Yes it would appear the Niners are once again entering a Dark age. Thats ok. I can cry tears of Red and Gold

Orange did I get you and loserboi mixed up? Were you the niners' fan or were both of you?

As for Kap's skill, he has great talent. If you're a packers fan you shouldn't even question that. Last year he struggled for two reasons.

The Packers were the ONLY team Kaepernick dominated like that, and that was exclusively because we had not the personnel to deal with a guy who would take off from the pocket like that. Historically, running QBs are able to come into the league and dominate certain teams in small amounts, and then they disappear back into the folds without a title and are dismantled soon after when people adapt to them. The 9ers did better than most of the other attempts, I'll give that, but the 9ers also had a bad-azz defense to compliment it and a bad-azz o'line, running game, and receiving corps. Pretty-much the entire team, with perhaps the only exception being the secondary, was elite. There's no question that Kaepernick (and Smith) are 9/10s of the reason the 9ers don't have b2b2b Lombardi trophies right now.

1) they tried forcing him into a pocket passer. Stupid. No QB has thrown more TD's or has a better passing rating OUTSIDE the pocket than Colin since he came into the league

If you can't become a pocket-passer you can't survive. If you can pass then the running becomes a great asset, if you can't then the running becomes your main weapon and that's too easily adapted to in the long-run.

2) Our offensive line that was for years the most solid in the NFL got rocked hard last year with injuries. This forced Vernon Davis too play a more blocking role.

Yeah you guys missed the opportunity. We'll never know if Smith could have gotten the last two titles if he stayed, but you can't build a team dominant-enough to get Kaep back to the big game. Might as well just wait until he's replaced now...
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3/16/2015 10:37:37 PM
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And now the 9ers suffer another blow to their defense, star rookie Chris Borland retires unexpectedly because he read data about concussions. I have to commend him, how many players have the nerve to give up the money like that?
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3/16/2015 10:49:25 PM
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At 3/16/2015 10:37:37 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
And now the 9ers suffer another blow to their defense, star rookie Chris Borland retires unexpectedly because he read data about concussions. I have to commend him, how many players have the nerve to give up the money like that?

I hear that too and had to check his contract. Espn misspoke and called him a first round pick. So I though he made a million or two and will live off the interest for the rest of his life. But he was actually a third round pick and only made $420k list year. Unfortunately, he tweeted (or retweeted) stuff that shows he doesn't understand science. It was something like "a 250 lb man running 15 mph has the same Kendrick energy as a bullet fired from an AK47." While factual, it clearly is meant to present a false impression that they cause equal or even similar damage to the body. Since a truck going 2 mph will have the same (or more) kinetic energy. But if I took two people and hit one with a truck at 2 mph over and over and another person that I shot with an AK47 over and over, who will die first? Kinetic energy =\= damage to the body.
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3/16/2015 11:45:57 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 3/16/2015 10:49:25 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 3/16/2015 10:37:37 PM, R0b1Billion wrote:
And now the 9ers suffer another blow to their defense, star rookie Chris Borland retires unexpectedly because he read data about concussions. I have to commend him, how many players have the nerve to give up the money like that?

I hear that too and had to check his contract. Espn misspoke and called him a first round pick. So I though he made a million or two and will live off the interest for the rest of his life. But he was actually a third round pick and only made $420k list year. Unfortunately, he tweeted (or retweeted) stuff that shows he doesn't understand science. It was something like "a 250 lb man running 15 mph has the same Kendrick energy as a bullet fired from an AK47." While factual, it clearly is meant to present a false impression that they cause equal or even similar damage to the body. Since a truck going 2 mph will have the same (or more) kinetic energy. But if I took two people and hit one with a truck at 2 mph over and over and another person that I shot with an AK47 over and over, who will die first? Kinetic energy =\= damage to the body.

LOL He seriously called it "Kendrick energy"?

Yeah obviously the difference between getting hit by a guy and a bullet is that the bullet is inflicting its damage on a few square millimeters of your body and a guy is spreading his weight out over a few feet. Force is divided by area, and a bullet has a whole lot less to divide by, the same reason why a knife hurts you more than a blunt object with the same applied force.

But I don't see this as a question of science at all. I have respect for science, I just don't need a scientific study to tell me that putting me on a field with the strongest men on the planet and letting them run full speed into me over and over again is going to be good for my long-term health. To me this is a moral question. He has an innate urge - greed - to want those millions of dollars he's leaving on the table. Logic dictates he must leave the money there, as he has, because money can't fix his brains and his joints after he's destroyed them playing football. My moral theory is that we have logical goals that conflict with emotional goals, and when those emotions are of a vicious nature, we must overcome them. This man is a rare specimen indeed...
Beliefs in a nutshell:
- The Ends never justify the Means.
- Objectivity is secondary to subjectivity.
- The War on Drugs is the worst policy in the U.S.
- Most people worship technology as a religion.
- Computers will never become sentient.