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Andrew Luck not so good after all

Ore_Ele
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10/30/2015 6:59:10 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
So Andrew Luck has had a rough season so far. Thankfully for him, all of sports media is still willing to suck his pig skin (that mean's "football", you dirty minded people) to say that everything is someone else's fault. All his career, every interception, every loss, has been the fault of his team and his coach and he is just perfection reincarnated.

How long can we continue to view him as the genetic crossbred of Peyton Manning, Aaron Rogers, and Tom Brady when he is so clearly only a middle of the pack QB?

For years, it has been that he has no talent around him and he carries the team to every victory. This year, we have seen that with Luck, the team is 1-4 this year. While he was out injured, the team was 2-0. So clearly, the team is not "nothing" without him. Sure, those wins were against the Texans and the Jags, not exactly high caliber opponents, but Luck's only win was against the Titans (the second to worst team last year), and that was only by 2 points.

One of the most damning pieces of evidence, is that the team is actually pretty average when it comes to their receiver hands. They rank #14 in percentage of dropped passes (at 3.6%, the league average is 4.0%, 301 out of 7,468). So the low completion percentage cannot be placed on the receivers.

Andrew Luck just isn't as good as we were all lead to believe.
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10/30/2015 9:19:25 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
He seems to be a younger Matt Stafford, which he is pretty good despite what everyone says. Put a team around the guy and tweak him a tad and he could be something along the lines of a Peyton Manning. Not saying he will be as good but you never know.
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10/31/2015 5:05:22 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
Yeah I'm not sure why everyone was so ready to anoint him without any actual results... He's been sputtering for years now without anything remarkable and now he's fading into complete mediocrity. Perhaps if the Colts had kept Manning around to mentor him, ala Favre and Rodgers, he would have had the same success Rodgers did.
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11/4/2015 2:43:24 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
Also, what's not too surprising is that now the media is defending him by saying how his struggles mirror other legendary QBs, so clearly, he is on track to be the next greatest QB.
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11/4/2015 3:13:33 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
So, some people like to point at Luck's 4th quarter comebacks as a sign of his skill, but I'm not sure it really says that much.

Sure, Luck is passing 57.9% (below average, but not terrible) in the 4th Qtr with 8 TDs and 3 Picks for a passer rating of 93.32, but in all other quarters, he is 52.7% (averaging only 5.77 yards per attempt) with 5 TDs and 9 Picks and a passer rating of only 56.14. This gives him the worst Passer Rating in non-4th qtr, by a solid margin. Even worse than Ryan Mallet.
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11/4/2015 7:18:59 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/4/2015 2:43:24 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Also, what's not too surprising is that now the media is defending him by saying how his struggles mirror other legendary QBs, so clearly, he is on track to be the next greatest QB.

I do agree, the media seems to be making a lot of excuses for him. These are the same people bashing Colin Kaepernick.
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11/4/2015 7:31:39 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/4/2015 7:18:59 AM, birdlandmemories wrote:
At 11/4/2015 2:43:24 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Also, what's not too surprising is that now the media is defending him by saying how his struggles mirror other legendary QBs, so clearly, he is on track to be the next greatest QB.

I do agree, the media seems to be making a lot of excuses for him. These are the same people bashing Colin Kaepernick.

Yep, and Kaep has a better TD to Pick ratio (barely, 1.2:1 compared to 1.08:1), about equal in passing yards (1,615 to 1,629), better rushing (almost 100 more yards and 1 TD to none). Drops are about the same (as of now, 49ers are at 3.3% and Colts are down to 3.1%).

Kaep is in an infinitely harder division (the Colts are tied in 1st at 3-5, thats a comically bad division), and one that is super tough on defense (so it isn't that his opponents just out-score him, he is facing tougher defenses).

Kaep has a better passer rating (78.8 to 71.6) but also a better QBR (47.6 to 37.6), which they weigh against how much of your success is due to a good OLine or WR corp bailing you out.
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11/6/2015 2:37:07 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/4/2015 2:42:31 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
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Just saying.

That guy Lasagna made some good points...
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11/6/2015 2:40:52 AM
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It's crazy, it seems like quarterbacks everywhere are floundering. Other than Brady, is there anybody who isn't in a seemingly declining state at the moment? Dalton an Palmer are doing OK I guess...
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11/6/2015 2:43:43 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/6/2015 2:40:52 AM, R0b1Billion wrote:
It's crazy, it seems like quarterbacks everywhere are floundering. Other than Brady, is there anybody who isn't in a seemingly declining state at the moment? Dalton an Palmer are doing OK I guess...

Eli is doing better this year. Brees is having a sudden comeback, but let's see if it lasts.
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11/7/2015 5:43:01 AM
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At 11/6/2015 2:43:43 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Brees is having a sudden comeback, but let's see if it lasts.

When did he leave?
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11/7/2015 3:46:06 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 11/7/2015 5:43:01 AM, 1harderthanyouthink wrote:
At 11/6/2015 2:43:43 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Brees is having a sudden comeback, but let's see if it lasts.

When did he leave?

Like through the first 7 games of the season when he only had 8 TD passes and was on pace for only 20 TD passes this year (which would be by far his worst showing in a Saints uniform).
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