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3/5/2016 2:11:33 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/2/2016 5:40:21 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
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Let's look. Players nowadays take gym regularly, and they are bulky. The 90's player are thinner. The 90's players could have an edge in speed, but in rebounds and defense there is some big trouble.
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3/5/2016 2:14:31 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/5/2016 2:11:33 PM, CodingSource wrote:
At 3/2/2016 5:40:21 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
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Let's look. Players nowadays take gym regularly, and they are bulky. The 90's player are thinner. The 90's players could have an edge in speed, but in rebounds and defense there is some big trouble.

And there is a plot twist: Steve Kerr is playing and coaching in this game. After 20 years he didn't know for sure that his team would be compared to the team where he played in his career.

Steve Kerr commentating...playing....and coaching. What a time travel.

And it is a battle between the best players of their era: Jordan vs. Curry.
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3/5/2016 10:22:34 PM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/5/2016 2:11:33 PM, CodingSource wrote:
At 3/2/2016 5:40:21 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
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Let's look. Players nowadays take gym regularly, and they are bulky. The 90's player are thinner. The 90's players could have an edge in speed, but in rebounds and defense there is some big trouble.

That's patently incorrect. The game of the 90's was much more physical. The hand-check, although technically illegal, was for all intents and purposes allowed. So 90's players had a huge advantage if they were big and tall. Steph Curry, at 6'3 190lbs, would likely have a tougher time in that era.
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3/6/2016 2:04:20 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/5/2016 10:22:34 PM, SactownBoom wrote:
At 3/5/2016 2:11:33 PM, CodingSource wrote:
At 3/2/2016 5:40:21 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Let's look. Players nowadays take gym regularly, and they are bulky. The 90's player are thinner. The 90's players could have an edge in speed, but in rebounds and defense there is some big trouble.

That's patently incorrect. The game of the 90's was much more physical. The hand-check, although technically illegal, was for all intents and purposes allowed. So 90's players had a huge advantage if they were big and tall. Steph Curry, at 6'3 190lbs, would likely have a tougher time in that era.

I forgot the hand-check. Sorry. If Step Curry were to play in that 90's, he could easily adjust. Their bulky bodies are their advantage.
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3/6/2016 2:17:20 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/6/2016 2:04:20 AM, CodingSource wrote:
At 3/5/2016 10:22:34 PM, SactownBoom wrote:
At 3/5/2016 2:11:33 PM, CodingSource wrote:
At 3/2/2016 5:40:21 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Let's look. Players nowadays take gym regularly, and they are bulky. The 90's player are thinner. The 90's players could have an edge in speed, but in rebounds and defense there is some big trouble.

That's patently incorrect. The game of the 90's was much more physical. The hand-check, although technically illegal, was for all intents and purposes allowed. So 90's players had a huge advantage if they were big and tall. Steph Curry, at 6'3 190lbs, would likely have a tougher time in that era.

I forgot the hand-check. Sorry. If Step Curry were to play in that 90's, he could easily adjust. Their bulky bodies are their advantage.

I'm not sure who you're referring to about the bulky bodies? 6'3 190 is not very bulky at all.
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3/6/2016 4:22:12 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/6/2016 2:17:20 AM, SactownBoom wrote:
At 3/6/2016 2:04:20 AM, CodingSource wrote:
At 3/5/2016 10:22:34 PM, SactownBoom wrote:
At 3/5/2016 2:11:33 PM, CodingSource wrote:
At 3/2/2016 5:40:21 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Let's look. Players nowadays take gym regularly, and they are bulky. The 90's player are thinner. The 90's players could have an edge in speed, but in rebounds and defense there is some big trouble.

That's patently incorrect. The game of the 90's was much more physical. The hand-check, although technically illegal, was for all intents and purposes allowed. So 90's players had a huge advantage if they were big and tall. Steph Curry, at 6'3 190lbs, would likely have a tougher time in that era.

I forgot the hand-check. Sorry. If Step Curry were to play in that 90's, he could easily adjust. Their bulky bodies are their advantage.

I'm not sure who you're referring to about the bulky bodies? 6'3 190 is not very bulky at all.

Golden State Warriors' bulky bodies. Not Curry in particular.
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3/6/2016 5:44:33 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/6/2016 4:22:12 AM, CodingSource wrote:
At 3/6/2016 2:17:20 AM, SactownBoom wrote:
At 3/6/2016 2:04:20 AM, CodingSource wrote:
At 3/5/2016 10:22:34 PM, SactownBoom wrote:
At 3/5/2016 2:11:33 PM, CodingSource wrote:
At 3/2/2016 5:40:21 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Let's look. Players nowadays take gym regularly, and they are bulky. The 90's player are thinner. The 90's players could have an edge in speed, but in rebounds and defense there is some big trouble.

That's patently incorrect. The game of the 90's was much more physical. The hand-check, although technically illegal, was for all intents and purposes allowed. So 90's players had a huge advantage if they were big and tall. Steph Curry, at 6'3 190lbs, would likely have a tougher time in that era.

I forgot the hand-check. Sorry. If Step Curry were to play in that 90's, he could easily adjust. Their bulky bodies are their advantage.

I'm not sure who you're referring to about the bulky bodies? 6'3 190 is not very bulky at all.

Golden State Warriors' bulky bodies. Not Curry in particular.

Philippine Basketball Association also has new rules (7 years ago actually) that disallows hand-checks. Nevertheless, when my friends play basketball, we still do hand-checks (blacktop..but we cal it lima-limahan). There was an American boy who played with us and he complained when we did hand-checks. He complained of 'pushing.'

It is also prevalent when we do betting in basketball (we call it pustahan). The game is pretty rough and physical...lots of shrewds (gulang is what we call). So yeah, I think the NBA today will have a hard time playing in the 90's period. The results of the game in NBA is more than 100 in average, whereas in PBA where defense and roughness is a thing is just more than 80. Where is the importance of defense? I don't know about 90's because unfortunately, I wasn't born during that golden time.

90's edge is defense, while 10's players are offense. If Warriors is going to focus on what they're doing (outside perimeter), they'll be leading by 10 points. If they force to go inside, they'll be receiving a lot of hand-checks, and Bulls will be leading by more than 15 points.
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3/6/2016 8:45:18 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/6/2016 2:04:20 AM, CodingSource wrote:
At 3/5/2016 10:22:34 PM, SactownBoom wrote:
At 3/5/2016 2:11:33 PM, CodingSource wrote:
At 3/2/2016 5:40:21 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Let's look. Players nowadays take gym regularly, and they are bulky. The 90's player are thinner. The 90's players could have an edge in speed, but in rebounds and defense there is some big trouble.

That's patently incorrect. The game of the 90's was much more physical. The hand-check, although technically illegal, was for all intents and purposes allowed. So 90's players had a huge advantage if they were big and tall. Steph Curry, at 6'3 190lbs, would likely have a tougher time in that era.

I forgot the hand-check. Sorry. If Step Curry were to play in that 90's, he could easily adjust. Their bulky bodies are their advantage.

If Curry were playing against the Bulls though, the Bulls could switch up defenders and put Scottie Pippen - one of the greatest defensive players in history - on Curry. That would slow him up considerably. Have Jordan cover Harrison Barnes and Ron Harper on Klay. With Curry out of the picture mostly (google Scottie Pippen defense) W's would have to rely mainly on Klay for scoring. You'd have Rodman vs Draymond Green, and Luc Longley on Bogut - both those matchups are basically washes.

I think the Bulls would be very, very competitive in that scenario. The Warriors have a better bench than that Bulls team had, but throw in the coaching advantage the Bulls would have (P Jackson > S Kerr... teacher > student) and I think Bulls would come out on top, in a 7 game series.
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3/6/2016 11:06:44 AM
Posted: 9 months ago
At 3/6/2016 8:45:18 AM, SactownBoom wrote:
At 3/6/2016 2:04:20 AM, CodingSource wrote:
At 3/5/2016 10:22:34 PM, SactownBoom wrote:
At 3/5/2016 2:11:33 PM, CodingSource wrote:
At 3/2/2016 5:40:21 PM, brontoraptor wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Let's look. Players nowadays take gym regularly, and they are bulky. The 90's player are thinner. The 90's players could have an edge in speed, but in rebounds and defense there is some big trouble.

That's patently incorrect. The game of the 90's was much more physical. The hand-check, although technically illegal, was for all intents and purposes allowed. So 90's players had a huge advantage if they were big and tall. Steph Curry, at 6'3 190lbs, would likely have a tougher time in that era.

I forgot the hand-check. Sorry. If Step Curry were to play in that 90's, he could easily adjust. Their bulky bodies are their advantage.

If Curry were playing against the Bulls though, the Bulls could switch up defenders and put Scottie Pippen - one of the greatest defensive players in history - on Curry. That would slow him up considerably. Have Jordan cover Harrison Barnes and Ron Harper on Klay. With Curry out of the picture mostly (google Scottie Pippen defense) W's would have to rely mainly on Klay for scoring. You'd have Rodman vs Draymond Green, and Luc Longley on Bogut - both those matchups are basically washes.

I think the Bulls would be very, very competitive in that scenario. The Warriors have a better bench than that Bulls team had, but throw in the coaching advantage the Bulls would have (P Jackson > S Kerr... teacher > student) and I think Bulls would come out on top, in a 7 game series.

If you say so. We can't really judge the greatness of the Bulls, especially GOAT MJ. Scottie Pipen is the greatest sidekick of all-time. I don't know who is the sidekick of Curry, though.
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