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4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...
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4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.
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4/12/2012 9:56:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

Agreed ^^^

It didn't even get that much money....
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4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.
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4/12/2012 10:02:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

Nothing to d with the Russians, everything to do with the history of it, and the potential discoveries, and the advancements.
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Aaronroy
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4/12/2012 10:06:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 10:02:16 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

Nothing to d with the Russians, everything to do with the history of it, and the potential discoveries, and the advancements.

NASA was formed directly due to the Race-for-Space against the Soviet Union. Historically, space exploration has always been about dominance.

Potential discoveries? It'll be hundreds if not thousands of years until we develop the technology to go beyond our own solar system. NASA was pretty stagnant in terms to progression, and private-sector organizations are looking pretty promising.

Come on, you're a conservative, who like, hates anything Federal. Obama ending NASA and leaving space exploration (you know, every 7-year old's dream) to the private-sector. Isn't something that you would support?
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4/12/2012 10:08:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

NASA holds the most scientific patents in the United States and are responsible for hundreds of inventions you use everyday (microchip for example--NASA). The fact is, all those came from the Apollo missions and what was needed to construct the computers and the ship. Stop NASA == stopping all chance of scientific innovation. You basically want the world to get ahead of the United States when it comes to technology. Russia's pretty darn close right now.
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4/12/2012 10:14:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 10:06:42 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:02:16 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

Nothing to d with the Russians, everything to do with the history of it, and the potential discoveries, and the advancements.

NASA was formed directly due to the Race-for-Space against the Soviet Union. Historically, space exploration has always been about dominance.

Potential discoveries? It'll be hundreds if not thousands of years until we develop the technology to go beyond our own solar system. NASA was pretty stagnant in terms to progression, and private-sector organizations are looking pretty promising.

Come on, you're a conservative, who like, hates anything Federal. Obama ending NASA and leaving space exploration (you know, every 7-year old's dream) to the private-sector. Isn't something that you would support?

It really does not matter if it's the Russians, the Chinese, or the Europeans.

What American doesn't want to see our flag as the first on Mars?
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4/12/2012 10:14:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 10:08:51 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

NASA holds the most scientific patents in the United States and are responsible for hundreds of inventions you use everyday (microchip for example--NASA). The fact is, all those came from the Apollo missions and what was needed to construct the computers and the ship. Stop NASA == stopping all chance of scientific innovation. You basically want the world to get ahead of the United States when it comes to technology. Russia's pretty darn close right now.

That's not a good reason to keep it open when that contention could be turned around on itself. One could easily just say that the money allocated to NASA should be pulled from it and reallocated to a government agency that specializes in technological advancements and research.
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4/12/2012 10:17:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 10:14:03 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:06:42 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:02:16 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

Nothing to d with the Russians, everything to do with the history of it, and the potential discoveries, and the advancements.

NASA was formed directly due to the Race-for-Space against the Soviet Union. Historically, space exploration has always been about dominance.

Potential discoveries? It'll be hundreds if not thousands of years until we develop the technology to go beyond our own solar system. NASA was pretty stagnant in terms to progression, and private-sector organizations are looking pretty promising.

Come on, you're a conservative, who like, hates anything Federal. Obama ending NASA and leaving space exploration (you know, every 7-year old's dream) to the private-sector. Isn't something that you would support?

It really does not matter if it's the Russians, the Chinese, or the Europeans.
I'm fairly certain it matters to people who live under the delusion that the Red-Scare still exists.

What American doesn't want to see our flag as the first on Mars?

How about a 'Human' flag to prevent all of the international-social stigma that comes from nationalism?
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4/12/2012 10:17:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 10:14:40 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:08:51 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

NASA holds the most scientific patents in the United States and are responsible for hundreds of inventions you use everyday (microchip for example--NASA). The fact is, all those came from the Apollo missions and what was needed to construct the computers and the ship. Stop NASA == stopping all chance of scientific innovation. You basically want the world to get ahead of the United States when it comes to technology. Russia's pretty darn close right now.

That's not a good reason to keep it open when that contention could be turned around on itself. One could easily just say that the money allocated to NASA should be pulled from it and reallocated to a government agency that specializes in technological advancements and research.

Err...NASA does specialize in technological advancements and research....
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4/12/2012 10:18:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 10:17:19 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:14:03 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:06:42 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:02:16 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

Nothing to d with the Russians, everything to do with the history of it, and the potential discoveries, and the advancements.

NASA was formed directly due to the Race-for-Space against the Soviet Union. Historically, space exploration has always been about dominance.

Potential discoveries? It'll be hundreds if not thousands of years until we develop the technology to go beyond our own solar system. NASA was pretty stagnant in terms to progression, and private-sector organizations are looking pretty promising.

Come on, you're a conservative, who like, hates anything Federal. Obama ending NASA and leaving space exploration (you know, every 7-year old's dream) to the private-sector. Isn't something that you would support?

It really does not matter if it's the Russians, the Chinese, or the Europeans.
I'm fairly certain it matters to people who live under the delusion that the Red-Scare still exists.

What American doesn't want to see our flag as the first on Mars?

How about a 'Human' flag to prevent all of the international-social stigma that comes from nationalism?

It's a good thing I'm not one of those people, huh?

And are you serious about the 'Human' flag thing or are you joking? It was pride for one's own country that brought us to the Moon, hell, to the Space Race in general...
Genesis I. And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them.
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4/12/2012 10:27:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 10:17:49 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:14:40 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:08:51 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

NASA holds the most scientific patents in the United States and are responsible for hundreds of inventions you use everyday (microchip for example--NASA). The fact is, all those came from the Apollo missions and what was needed to construct the computers and the ship. Stop NASA == stopping all chance of scientific innovation. You basically want the world to get ahead of the United States when it comes to technology. Russia's pretty darn close right now.

That's not a good reason to keep it open when that contention could be turned around on itself. One could easily just say that the money allocated to NASA should be pulled from it and reallocated to a government agency that specializes in technological advancements and research.

Err...NASA does specialize in technological advancements and research....

...for the purpose of space exploration and NOT for the sake of technology advances. It's pretty sensible to conclude that they'd be more progressive if they focused on technological advancements solely.
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4/12/2012 10:32:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 10:27:24 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:17:49 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:14:40 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:08:51 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

NASA holds the most scientific patents in the United States and are responsible for hundreds of inventions you use everyday (microchip for example--NASA). The fact is, all those came from the Apollo missions and what was needed to construct the computers and the ship. Stop NASA == stopping all chance of scientific innovation. You basically want the world to get ahead of the United States when it comes to technology. Russia's pretty darn close right now.

That's not a good reason to keep it open when that contention could be turned around on itself. One could easily just say that the money allocated to NASA should be pulled from it and reallocated to a government agency that specializes in technological advancements and research.

Err...NASA does specialize in technological advancements and research....

...for the purpose of space exploration and NOT for the sake of technology advances. It's pretty sensible to conclude that they'd be more progressive if they focused on technological advancements solely.

You do know they have entire divisions devoted solely to that purpose? :P And you do also know that hundreds of inventions you use everyday (microchip for example--NASA) all came from the Apollo missions and what was needed to construct the computers and the ship. Simply constructing something like this nuclear space engine would require huge technological advances. Applied sciences can yield better results then non-applied sciences.
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4/12/2012 10:38:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 10:18:36 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:17:19 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:14:03 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:06:42 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:02:16 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

Nothing to d with the Russians, everything to do with the history of it, and the potential discoveries, and the advancements.

NASA was formed directly due to the Race-for-Space against the Soviet Union. Historically, space exploration has always been about dominance.

Potential discoveries? It'll be hundreds if not thousands of years until we develop the technology to go beyond our own solar system. NASA was pretty stagnant in terms to progression, and private-sector organizations are looking pretty promising.

Come on, you're a conservative, who like, hates anything Federal. Obama ending NASA and leaving space exploration (you know, every 7-year old's dream) to the private-sector. Isn't something that you would support?

It really does not matter if it's the Russians, the Chinese, or the Europeans.
I'm fairly certain it matters to people who live under the delusion that the Red-Scare still exists.

What American doesn't want to see our flag as the first on Mars?

How about a 'Human' flag to prevent all of the international-social stigma that comes from nationalism?

It's a good thing I'm not one of those people, huh?

And are you serious about the 'Human' flag thing or are you joking? It was pride for one's own country that brought us to the Moon, hell, to the Space Race in general...

Ever heard of the phrase 'Swallow your pride'? It's foolish nationalism that leads to stigmatization between opposing world powers.

Notice how he was "mankind" and not "Americans". If we're going to continue space exploration, it should only be out of betterment of mankind and ultimately the conquest for knowledge, and not out of "national pride" (Hey, it's 'Nation's Pride' the name they gave the Nazi propaganda movie in Inglorious Basterds?) All I'm seeing is sheer "We must be the first to Mars!" contentions from people who are going Pro-NASA. I honestly don't care for Newt and his insipid Moon base delusions.

Even if we were to reinstate NASA, it'd be logical for them to allocate their resources to helping the Russians with their research; they seem to be on to something and are progressing at a rate which would be unrivaled with our support.
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4/12/2012 10:42:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 10:38:11 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:18:36 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:17:19 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:14:03 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:06:42 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:02:16 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

Nothing to d with the Russians, everything to do with the history of it, and the potential discoveries, and the advancements.

NASA was formed directly due to the Race-for-Space against the Soviet Union. Historically, space exploration has always been about dominance.

Potential discoveries? It'll be hundreds if not thousands of years until we develop the technology to go beyond our own solar system. NASA was pretty stagnant in terms to progression, and private-sector organizations are looking pretty promising.

Come on, you're a conservative, who like, hates anything Federal. Obama ending NASA and leaving space exploration (you know, every 7-year old's dream) to the private-sector. Isn't something that you would support?

It really does not matter if it's the Russians, the Chinese, or the Europeans.
I'm fairly certain it matters to people who live under the delusion that the Red-Scare still exists.

What American doesn't want to see our flag as the first on Mars?

How about a 'Human' flag to prevent all of the international-social stigma that comes from nationalism?

It's a good thing I'm not one of those people, huh?

And are you serious about the 'Human' flag thing or are you joking? It was pride for one's own country that brought us to the Moon, hell, to the Space Race in general...

Ever heard of the phrase 'Swallow your pride'? It's foolish nationalism that leads to stigmatization between opposing world powers.



Notice how he was "mankind" and not "Americans". If we're going to continue space exploration, it should only be out of betterment of mankind and ultimately the conquest for knowledge, and not out of "national pride" (Hey, it's 'Nation's Pride' the name they gave the Nazi propaganda movie in Inglorious Basterds?) All I'm seeing is sheer "We must be the first to Mars!" contentions from people who are going Pro-NASA. I honestly don't care for Newt and his insipid Moon base delusions.

Even if we were to reinstate NASA, it'd be logical for them to allocate their resources to helping the Russians with their research; they seem to be on to something and are progressing at a rate which would be unrivaled with our support.

I actually agree here, part of it, reinstating NASA would be good. Technology, such as this, would be a good thing for the world. If you allow NASA and the Russian equivalent to "team up" the technological advances would be unrivaled against any point in history.

Also, a race to Mars is a good thing. If two countries race, they are going to progress faster then without a race. (You always want to beat your rival :P)
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4/12/2012 10:51:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/12/2012 10:38:11 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:18:36 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:17:19 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:14:03 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:06:42 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:02:16 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

Nothing to d with the Russians, everything to do with the history of it, and the potential discoveries, and the advancements.

NASA was formed directly due to the Race-for-Space against the Soviet Union. Historically, space exploration has always been about dominance.

Potential discoveries? It'll be hundreds if not thousands of years until we develop the technology to go beyond our own solar system. NASA was pretty stagnant in terms to progression, and private-sector organizations are looking pretty promising.

Come on, you're a conservative, who like, hates anything Federal. Obama ending NASA and leaving space exploration (you know, every 7-year old's dream) to the private-sector. Isn't something that you would support?

It really does not matter if it's the Russians, the Chinese, or the Europeans.
I'm fairly certain it matters to people who live under the delusion that the Red-Scare still exists.

What American doesn't want to see our flag as the first on Mars?

How about a 'Human' flag to prevent all of the international-social stigma that comes from nationalism?

It's a good thing I'm not one of those people, huh?

And are you serious about the 'Human' flag thing or are you joking? It was pride for one's own country that brought us to the Moon, hell, to the Space Race in general...

Ever heard of the phrase 'Swallow your pride'? It's foolish nationalism that leads to stigmatization between opposing world powers.



Notice how he was "mankind" and not "Americans". If we're going to continue space exploration, it should only be out of betterment of mankind and ultimately the conquest for knowledge, and not out of "national pride" (Hey, it's 'Nation's Pride' the name they gave the Nazi propaganda movie in Inglorious Basterds?) All I'm seeing is sheer "We must be the first to Mars!" contentions from people who are going Pro-NASA. I honestly don't care for Newt and his insipid Moon base delusions.

Even if we were to reinstate NASA, it'd be logical for them to allocate their resources to helping the Russians with their research; they seem to be on to something and are progressing at a rate which would be unrivaled with our support.

Believe what you want about international cooperation, but I have a more pessimistic view of human motivation.

Wow, a reductio ad hitlerum this early... National pride is not a bad thing, you must draw a line between that and nationalism, which is the belief that ones nation is superior to others for various reasons. Competition, however, is a fantastic motivator for technological advancement, the Space Race is an optimal example of this. Actually, just about every advancement ever is guided by either competition or necessity, or a combination of both.

I'm not arguing international cooperation doesn't exist (the ISS) just that competition is a better motivator.
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4/13/2012 3:54:41 PM
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At 4/12/2012 10:51:22 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:38:11 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:18:36 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:17:19 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:14:03 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:06:42 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:02:16 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

Nothing to d with the Russians, everything to do with the history of it, and the potential discoveries, and the advancements.

NASA was formed directly due to the Race-for-Space against the Soviet Union. Historically, space exploration has always been about dominance.

Potential discoveries? It'll be hundreds if not thousands of years until we develop the technology to go beyond our own solar system. NASA was pretty stagnant in terms to progression, and private-sector organizations are looking pretty promising.

Come on, you're a conservative, who like, hates anything Federal. Obama ending NASA and leaving space exploration (you know, every 7-year old's dream) to the private-sector. Isn't something that you would support?

It really does not matter if it's the Russians, the Chinese, or the Europeans.
I'm fairly certain it matters to people who live under the delusion that the Red-Scare still exists.

What American doesn't want to see our flag as the first on Mars?

How about a 'Human' flag to prevent all of the international-social stigma that comes from nationalism?

It's a good thing I'm not one of those people, huh?

And are you serious about the 'Human' flag thing or are you joking? It was pride for one's own country that brought us to the Moon, hell, to the Space Race in general...

Ever heard of the phrase 'Swallow your pride'? It's foolish nationalism that leads to stigmatization between opposing world powers.



Notice how he was "mankind" and not "Americans". If we're going to continue space exploration, it should only be out of betterment of mankind and ultimately the conquest for knowledge, and not out of "national pride" (Hey, it's 'Nation's Pride' the name they gave the Nazi propaganda movie in Inglorious Basterds?) All I'm seeing is sheer "We must be the first to Mars!" contentions from people who are going Pro-NASA. I honestly don't care for Newt and his insipid Moon base delusions.

Even if we were to reinstate NASA, it'd be logical for them to allocate their resources to helping the Russians with their research; they seem to be on to something and are progressing at a rate which would be unrivaled with our support.


Believe what you want about international cooperation, but I have a more pessimistic view of human motivation.

Wow, a reductio ad hitlerum this early... National pride is not a bad thing, you must draw a line between that and nationalism, which is the belief that ones nation is superior to others for various reasons. Competition, however, is a fantastic motivator for technological advancement, the Space Race is an optimal example of this. Actually, just about every advancement ever is guided by either competition or necessity, or a combination of both.

I'm not arguing international cooperation doesn't exist (the ISS) just that competition is a better motivator.

It depends on what the competition is over. Technology == good competition. But, working together can still be fabulous :P
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4/13/2012 4:47:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/13/2012 3:54:41 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:51:22 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:38:11 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:18:36 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:17:19 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:14:03 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:06:42 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:02:16 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

Nothing to d with the Russians, everything to do with the history of it, and the potential discoveries, and the advancements.

NASA was formed directly due to the Race-for-Space against the Soviet Union. Historically, space exploration has always been about dominance.

Potential discoveries? It'll be hundreds if not thousands of years until we develop the technology to go beyond our own solar system. NASA was pretty stagnant in terms to progression, and private-sector organizations are looking pretty promising.

Come on, you're a conservative, who like, hates anything Federal. Obama ending NASA and leaving space exploration (you know, every 7-year old's dream) to the private-sector. Isn't something that you would support?

It really does not matter if it's the Russians, the Chinese, or the Europeans.
I'm fairly certain it matters to people who live under the delusion that the Red-Scare still exists.

What American doesn't want to see our flag as the first on Mars?

How about a 'Human' flag to prevent all of the international-social stigma that comes from nationalism?

It's a good thing I'm not one of those people, huh?

And are you serious about the 'Human' flag thing or are you joking? It was pride for one's own country that brought us to the Moon, hell, to the Space Race in general...

Ever heard of the phrase 'Swallow your pride'? It's foolish nationalism that leads to stigmatization between opposing world powers.



Notice how he was "mankind" and not "Americans". If we're going to continue space exploration, it should only be out of betterment of mankind and ultimately the conquest for knowledge, and not out of "national pride" (Hey, it's 'Nation's Pride' the name they gave the Nazi propaganda movie in Inglorious Basterds?) All I'm seeing is sheer "We must be the first to Mars!" contentions from people who are going Pro-NASA. I honestly don't care for Newt and his insipid Moon base delusions.

Even if we were to reinstate NASA, it'd be logical for them to allocate their resources to helping the Russians with their research; they seem to be on to something and are progressing at a rate which would be unrivaled with our support.


Believe what you want about international cooperation, but I have a more pessimistic view of human motivation.

Wow, a reductio ad hitlerum this early... National pride is not a bad thing, you must draw a line between that and nationalism, which is the belief that ones nation is superior to others for various reasons. Competition, however, is a fantastic motivator for technological advancement, the Space Race is an optimal example of this. Actually, just about every advancement ever is guided by either competition or necessity, or a combination of both.

I'm not arguing international cooperation doesn't exist (the ISS) just that competition is a better motivator.

It depends on what the competition is over. Technology == good competition. But, working together can still be fabulous :P

I don't disagree... As I said, the ISS is a perfect example. But we went from an unmanned satellite to a manned lunar landing in a few decades directly because of competition
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4/13/2012 9:56:51 PM
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I don't disagree... As I said, the ISS is a perfect example. But we went from an unmanned satellite to a manned lunar landing in a few decades directly because of competition

That is so very true.
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4/13/2012 10:11:21 PM
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I used to be big into NASA, but not so much anymore. If we gave up on our wellfare warfare state I could see throwing money towards building cool sh!t, but as of now I'd just assume let DARPA build cool sh!t.
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4/13/2012 10:14:34 PM
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At 4/13/2012 10:11:21 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I used to be big into NASA, but not so much anymore. If we gave up on our wellfare warfare state I could see throwing money towards building cool sh!t, but as of now I'd just assume let DARPA build cool sh!t.

There's a difference between building a space shuttle that can take us to mars and a hypersonic weapon (for example).
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4/13/2012 10:21:48 PM
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At 4/13/2012 10:14:34 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 4/13/2012 10:11:21 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I used to be big into NASA, but not so much anymore. If we gave up on our wellfare warfare state I could see throwing money towards building cool sh!t, but as of now I'd just assume let DARPA build cool sh!t.

There's a difference between building a space shuttle that can take us to mars and a hypersonic weapon (for example).

Darpa does a lot of stuff that has practical applications.
Also going to mars is relatively easy, they've just decided scientific curiosity doesn't justify the cost.
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4/13/2012 10:27:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/13/2012 10:21:48 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/13/2012 10:14:34 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 4/13/2012 10:11:21 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I used to be big into NASA, but not so much anymore. If we gave up on our wellfare warfare state I could see throwing money towards building cool sh!t, but as of now I'd just assume let DARPA build cool sh!t.

There's a difference between building a space shuttle that can take us to mars and a hypersonic weapon (for example).

Darpa does a lot of stuff that has practical applications.
Also going to mars is relatively easy, they've just decided scientific curiosity doesn't justify the cost.

The engineering that goes into building a nuclear engine would repay itself. NASA always has.
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4/13/2012 10:39:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/13/2012 10:27:58 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 4/13/2012 10:21:48 PM, lewis20 wrote:
At 4/13/2012 10:14:34 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 4/13/2012 10:11:21 PM, lewis20 wrote:
I used to be big into NASA, but not so much anymore. If we gave up on our wellfare warfare state I could see throwing money towards building cool sh!t, but as of now I'd just assume let DARPA build cool sh!t.

There's a difference between building a space shuttle that can take us to mars and a hypersonic weapon (for example).

Darpa does a lot of stuff that has practical applications.
Also going to mars is relatively easy, they've just decided scientific curiosity doesn't justify the cost.

The engineering that goes into building a nuclear engine would repay itself. NASA always has.

I don't see how that is possible.
If you are talking about advancing nuclear technologies, that money would be much better spent on programs on the ground, researching cold fusion and the likes.
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4/14/2012 4:10:41 PM
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USA: http://en.wikipedia.org...(nuclear_propulsion) http://en.wikipedia.org... http://en.wikipedia.org...

Britian: http://en.wikipedia.org...

We have the technology, schematics, and resources. Our only problem is that we have Greenpeace, and too many other nations would consider a launch of a nuclear powered spacecraft as an act of war if done by the states.And also, NASA isn't dead, they have just been relegated to R&D due to budget cuts. What I really hope to see from NASA's temporary flight suspension is the production of better spacecraft by private enterprise. If [when] private enterprise builds decent orbital spacecraft [most currently are relegated to suborbital flight at the moment due to safety concerns] NASA would most likely begin the purchase/rental of these craft so as to make the heavier spacefaring research [permanent space colonies, interstellar space travel, orbital solar, terraforming, asteroid mining, figuring out methods to survive the heat death of the universe, destroying the Vulcan's before they can screw with our minds, making resistance un-futile, going where no man has gone before, etc . . .] more affordable and simpler. NASA's hard science innovations would then be used by the private space industry to further its capacity which in turn furthers NASA's scientific capacity.

http://blogs.discovermagazine.com...
http://news.cnet.com...
http://www.inc.com...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com...
http://www.nasa.gov...

I apologize in advance for the scatterbrained format of my post for it has been a while since I have been on this site.
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4/16/2012 6:00:11 PM
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At 4/12/2012 10:08:51 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

NASA holds the most scientific patents in the United States and are responsible for hundreds of inventions you use everyday (microchip for example--NASA). The fact is, all those came from the Apollo missions and what was needed to construct the computers and the ship. Stop NASA == stopping all chance of scientific innovation. You basically want the world to get ahead of the United States when it comes to technology. Russia's pretty darn close right now.

Uh.... what?
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4/16/2012 9:06:08 PM
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At 4/16/2012 6:00:11 PM, seraine wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:08:51 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 4/12/2012 10:01:29 PM, Aaronroy wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:53:28 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/12/2012 9:52:07 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
Awesome, so while the United States is still stuck on the ground because some nimwits in DC decided to get rid of NASAs Manned Space Program, Russia's going ahead and building a nuclear space engine. This space engine is going to go with long range manned space craft which could be used for interplanetary travel.

Read all about it...:

http://en.rian.ru...

I hate Obama, soooooo much, for killing NASA......so much.

I love it how conservatives are freakishly against government entities/programs...EXCEPT when it is involved in competing with the Russians.

NASA holds the most scientific patents in the United States and are responsible for hundreds of inventions you use everyday (microchip for example--NASA). The fact is, all those came from the Apollo missions and what was needed to construct the computers and the ship. Stop NASA == stopping all chance of scientific innovation. You basically want the world to get ahead of the United States when it comes to technology. Russia's pretty darn close right now.

Uh.... what?

NASA holds the most patents and currently has around 40% of the United States scientific research. So perhaps I was exaggerating a bit, but, the scientific innovation within the United States would be extraordinarily curtailed.