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Strikeeagle84015
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7/9/2010 8:20:46 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
Which one do you use and which one do you think is the best why?

As for me LINUX ALL THE WAY WAHHHHOOOOOO!!!!!!!
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

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Strikeeagle84015
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7/9/2010 8:30:02 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 8:22:10 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Windows. There is no argument.

Because of course windows isn't slow, of low quality, have a User Interface written by a group of sadistic neptunians, and every single virus in the planet isn't written for windows
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
Marilyn Poe

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xxdarkxx
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7/9/2010 10:58:30 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 8:30:02 AM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/9/2010 8:22:10 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
Windows. There is no argument.

Because of course windows isn't slow, of low quality, have a User Interface written by a group of sadistic neptunians, and every single virus in the planet isn't written for windows

Well if you're not a computer illiterate idiot then Windows is quite wonderful. Also people don't write viruses for anything other then windows because most people use windows. AND people get those viruses, by watching porn. <--- were back to computer illiterates.
InsertNameHere
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7/9/2010 6:02:03 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 10:58:30 AM, xxdarkxx wrote:

AND people get those viruses, by watching porn. <--- were back to computer illiterates.

That's why you don't watch porn. :)

I'm Mac btw.
xxdarkxx
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7/9/2010 6:10:17 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:02:03 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/9/2010 10:58:30 AM, xxdarkxx wrote:

AND people get those viruses, by watching porn. <--- were back to computer illiterates.

That's why you don't watch porn. :)

I'm Mac btw.

Or you just get good virus software and run sweeps :)
ccstate4peat
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7/9/2010 9:49:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 6:10:17 PM, xxdarkxx wrote:
At 7/9/2010 6:02:03 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/9/2010 10:58:30 AM, xxdarkxx wrote:

AND people get those viruses, by watching porn. <--- were back to computer illiterates.

That's why you don't watch porn. :)

I'm Mac btw.

Or you just get good virus software and run sweeps :)

Or you could not have the need to pay for virus software and watch ALL THE PORN YOU DESIRE
omelet
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7/10/2010 8:48:28 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 10:58:30 AM, xxdarkxx wrote:
AND people get those viruses, by watching porn. <--- were back to computer illiterates.

So sorry, but that's incorrect.

http://www.digitaltrends.com...
omelet
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7/10/2010 9:06:15 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/10/2010 12:33:40 AM, lnkddbz wrote:
Windows is better as it is good easy to use and excellent in performance.
You probably say this having used no other operating systems.

Mac OS is actually easier to use. That's actually the main reason it's marketable at all. Certain variants of Linux are just about as easy to use as Windows [like Ubuntu]. Some other variants require a lot more know-how [like Arch or Gentoo].

For use cases without games or other windows-specific software, Windows tends to have worse performance.
omelet
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7/10/2010 9:08:14 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
I dual-boot Windows 7 Starter and Arch Linux on an Atom 450-based netbook. I use Windows because there are a few games I play that would not run well enough on my computer in Wine [a program for running Windows applications in Linux].
omelet
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7/10/2010 9:10:06 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
And to answer the actual question, I think Windows is best for some use cases [most notably, gaming], but I think Linux is better for general use. I don't like Macs, but that's probably because I don't need to have my hand held when I'm using my computer [that, and I really hate the dock].
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7/10/2010 9:11:56 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/10/2010 9:10:06 AM, omelet wrote:
I don't like Macs, but that's probably because I don't need to have my hand held when I'm using my computer [that, and I really hate the dock].

Sorry for the quadruple post, I just wanted to add one more thing. I also don't like Mac OS because you can only ordinarily run Mac OS on Apple computers, and Apple overcharges for their computers - moreso than most other OEMs.
xxdarkxx
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7/10/2010 3:00:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 9:49:00 PM, ccstate4peat wrote:
At 7/9/2010 6:10:17 PM, xxdarkxx wrote:
At 7/9/2010 6:02:03 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/9/2010 10:58:30 AM, xxdarkxx wrote:

AND people get those viruses, by watching porn. <--- were back to computer illiterates.

That's why you don't watch porn. :)

I'm Mac btw.

Or you just get good virus software and run sweeps :)

Or you could not have the need to pay for virus software and watch ALL THE PORN YOU DESIRE

lulz really? AVG is free software, and it works quite well.
xxdarkxx
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7/10/2010 3:00:46 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/10/2010 8:48:28 AM, omelet wrote:
At 7/9/2010 10:58:30 AM, xxdarkxx wrote:
AND people get those viruses, by watching porn. <--- were back to computer illiterates.

So sorry, but that's incorrect.

http://www.digitaltrends.com...

wow... revalation... then again Facbook is virus central now
I-am-a-panda
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7/10/2010 3:03:22 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/10/2010 3:00:46 PM, xxdarkxx wrote:
At 7/10/2010 8:48:28 AM, omelet wrote:
At 7/9/2010 10:58:30 AM, xxdarkxx wrote:
AND people get those viruses, by watching porn. <--- were back to computer illiterates.

So sorry, but that's incorrect.

http://www.digitaltrends.com...

wow... revalation... then again Facbook is virus central now

Not only that, but Pornhub, Redtube, Slutload, Youporn, et. al. are all clean. You just gotta know where to look.
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xxdarkxx
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7/10/2010 4:40:50 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/10/2010 3:03:22 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
At 7/10/2010 3:00:46 PM, xxdarkxx wrote:
At 7/10/2010 8:48:28 AM, omelet wrote:
At 7/9/2010 10:58:30 AM, xxdarkxx wrote:
AND people get those viruses, by watching porn. <--- were back to computer illiterates.

So sorry, but that's incorrect.

http://www.digitaltrends.com...

wow... revalation... then again Facbook is virus central now

Not only that, but Pornhub, Redtube, Slutload, Youporn, et. al. are all clean. You just gotta know where to look.

Something I will never understand... why the FREE sites, are clean.... just doesn't make sense.... you would think that a site that makes you pay, would be the ones likely to be clean so that people will continue to come back to them
Anacharsis
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7/16/2010 10:27:01 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/10/2010 9:06:15 AM, omelet wrote:
At 7/10/2010 12:33:40 AM, lnkddbz wrote:
Windows is better as it is good easy to use and excellent in performance.
You probably say this having used no other operating systems.

Mac OS is actually easier to use. That's actually the main reason it's marketable at all. Certain variants of Linux are just about as easy to use as Windows [like Ubuntu]. Some other variants require a lot more know-how [like Arch or Gentoo].

For use cases without games or other windows-specific software, Windows tends to have worse performance.

Mac is easier only where Apple has hidden a lot of ability for a user to tweak things to their liking. So, if you want to pay some developer for the interface tweaks necessary to make the stupid thing usable, then yeah. The thing Mac users seem to like best about the OS, the Finder, to me seems like the dumbest user interface for any program ever designed. Mac is quite easy enough. But for trying to find your files, it's just extremely annoying. Tweaking file-type associations to work the way they should is often impossible. The ability to run it legally only on Apple's over-priced and under-powered hardware is also a big hit against it. The only reason it's marketable has to do with ease of use only from a historical perspective. It was true that it was easier use than Windows about 16 years ago. That and the fact that most of the really powerful DTP, graphics and video editing apps reached consumer price points and functionality on the Mac long before Windows meant that Apple got a dedicated user base that never wanted to look elsewhere.

Windows, extremely vulnerable to viruses, spyware, etc., but mainly due to stupid user practices such as installing programs from random downloads and visiting sites they shouldn't be at, poor configuration and failure to apply the updates that MS supplies. Of course there are other reasons as well, but I find a well configured Windows system just as hard to hack as a well configured Linux or Mac system. Hacking the user is always the easiest way. In terms of ease of use, Windows has them all beat, but again you have to pay through the nose; not just for the over-priced OS itself, but for any really useful commercial tool or utility. In terms of integration with an enterprise management infrastructure for authentication, deployment and maintenance, Microsoft wins hands-down.

Linux lacks a bit on the ease of use side, but more than makes it up by being the most customizable and powerful in terms of system and networking utilities available and of course by being free and running on nearly any piece of hardware you can find or run a compiler on. It's more secure mainly by virtue of its low market share attracting little attention from organized hacker groups seeking the quickest buck.

Which is best depends on your goal, preferences, knowledge and personality. I can get all of them to do what is needed. You can install Cygwin in Windows and get it to behave a lot like Linux. Put MacPorts on OSX and you get a pretty functional system. I just find it annoying.

Full disclosure: I regularly run a Windows virtual machine inside Ubuntu Linux on my MacBook. Linux, Ubuntu and Debian, is my primary day-to-day usage OS. I have OSX installed, of course, but only find a reason to boot it once or twice a year. I was forced to use OSX for years and my job is very heavy on tech. So, I know may way pretty thoroughly around all of the above. I am also a Microsoft MCSE with various other certifications on commercial Unices (the correct plural form of Unix).
Anacharsis
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7/16/2010 10:30:38 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/11/2010 10:23:51 PM, MTGandP wrote:
OpenBSD.

Hey, at least you acknowledged that Linux exists. Most people don't even go that far.

Yes, OpenBSD is the #1 most secure publicly available OS. It does suffer somewhat from a lack of availability of some device drivers applications relative to the others. But I highly recommend it for some purposes.
omelet
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7/16/2010 12:57:45 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/16/2010 10:27:01 AM, Anacharsis wrote:
[Linux is] more secure mainly by virtue of its low market share
I don't think so Tim. Most servers use Linux. Many servers are dense with valuable information. The thing is, people who maintain servers can't be manipulated as people quite as much as the average Windows PC user - they're not going to willingly install that dubious piece of software on their server or run that script they don't understand.

This is true of the average Linux PC user as well - that might be in large part because the average Linux user is informed. The lack of a standard method or UI across all distributions for installing software is another thing to consider. These barriers would prevent Linux exploits from being highly successful even with a higher Linux market share. The market share certainly plays a role, but I wouldn't say it's the main thing.

Still, Windows + common sense is nearly as secure. Linux's main advantage is the price, customizability, quality of free applications for it, and ability to run fine on a slower computer.
Pirate
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7/16/2010 2:54:10 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
If games were written for Linux, i would drop Windows for sure. I still have half my PC with Windows XP, which i use the most, because i play games a lot. Wine isn't that good.
Strikeeagle84015
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7/17/2010 9:00:10 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/16/2010 12:57:45 PM, omelet wrote:
At 7/16/2010 10:27:01 AM, Anacharsis wrote:
[Linux is] more secure mainly by virtue of its low market share
I don't think so Tim. Most servers use Linux.

From what I understand most servers don't run Linux but a Unix kernel off of which the Linux OS is based for the record I use Ubuntu
: At 8/17/2010 7:17:56 AM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
: Hey dawg, i herd you like evangelical trolls so we put a bible thumper in yo bible thumper so you can troll while you troll!

Arguing with an atheist about God is very similar to arguing with a blind man about what the Sistine Chapel looks like
Marilyn Poe

Strikeeagle wrote
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7/17/2010 10:07:52 AM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/17/2010 9:00:10 AM, Strikeeagle84015 wrote:
At 7/16/2010 12:57:45 PM, omelet wrote:
At 7/16/2010 10:27:01 AM, Anacharsis wrote:
[Linux is] more secure mainly by virtue of its low market share
I don't think so Tim. Most servers use Linux.

From what I understand most servers don't run Linux but a Unix kernel off of which the Linux OS is based for the record I use Ubuntu
No.

Seems I was also wrong, though. Linux is on more servers than all of the Unix systems combined, but Windows actually has a higher server market share than Linux. This saddens me.

http://en.wikipedia.org...

I might have been confusing the situation with that of TOP500 supercomputers, which almost all use Linux.
Mirza
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7/23/2010 1:19:02 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/9/2010 10:58:30 AM, xxdarkxx wrote:
Well if you're not a computer illiterate idiot then Windows is quite wonderful. Also people don't write viruses for anything other then windows because most people use windows.
This is not true. Many companies uses Linux servers, but they are too hard to hack.
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7/23/2010 4:05:51 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/22/2010 8:12:11 PM, Sniperjake1994 wrote:
Mac, cause it's easier and simple to use. Plus there are no virus for it.

Yea, I actually saved like $200 by buying a Mac since I didn't have to buy all the extra virus protection software.
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7/23/2010 4:44:56 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/23/2010 4:05:51 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/22/2010 8:12:11 PM, Sniperjake1994 wrote:
Mac, cause it's easier and simple to use. Plus there are no virus for it.

Yea, I actually saved like $200 by buying a Mac since I didn't have to buy all the extra virus protection software.

Two words: Open-source.

Also, Macs can get viruses. In fact, if someone wrote a virus that is designed to destroy them internally it would probably work like a charm because of the lax security.
When large numbers of otherwise-law abiding people break specific laws en masse, it's usually a fault that lies with the law. - Unknown
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7/23/2010 5:06:00 PM
Posted: 6 years ago
At 7/23/2010 4:44:56 PM, Korashk wrote:
At 7/23/2010 4:05:51 PM, InsertNameHere wrote:
At 7/22/2010 8:12:11 PM, Sniperjake1994 wrote:
Mac, cause it's easier and simple to use. Plus there are no virus for it.

Yea, I actually saved like $200 by buying a Mac since I didn't have to buy all the extra virus protection software.

Two words: Open-source.

Also, Macs can get viruses. In fact, if someone wrote a virus that is designed to destroy them internally it would probably work like a charm because of the lax security.

I know Macs can get viruses, it's just less common.