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scissorhands7
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10/8/2008 3:34:27 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
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10/8/2008 3:36:03 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
I justify it because I wear an eyepatch and carry a pirate license when I engage in piracy.

I also believe that all ways to make a computer better should be free.
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10/8/2008 5:22:09 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/8/2008 4:29:35 PM, JBlake wrote:
"carry a pirate license when I engage in piracy"

Then in reality, you are a Privateer...

Fraud!

Haha my girlfriend got it for me down at the beach one year.
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10/8/2008 5:23:03 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/8/2008 3:36:03 PM, scissorhands7 wrote:
I also believe that all ways to make a computer better should be free.

That would be a valid justification for making free software, not for stealing non-free software. If I think food should be free, I don't have the right to steal food from a market.

Piracy is unfair. Proprietary software relies on people buying it for it to survive. If people A, B, and C are paying for it, it's not fair for you to get it for free. Piracy makes software more expensive, by artificially lowering the demand - thus, you are putting that price burden that should be on you onto everyone else who buys the software.

Needless to say, I don't pirate things. It's unnecessary, seeing as I can get good software for free. Sure, I use Windows, but only because I got it for free. If I had to pay for it, I'd just use Linux full-time. I buy some music, but not much. A lot of the music I listen to is free. I buy some games, but not many.

Like any other product, if I don't feel it's worth the money, I don't buy it, and therefore don't get to benefit from it.
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10/8/2008 5:29:05 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/8/2008 5:23:03 PM, beem0r wrote:
At 10/8/2008 3:36:03 PM, scissorhands7 wrote:
I also believe that all ways to make a computer better should be free.

That would be a valid justification for making free software, not for stealing non-free software. If I think food should be free, I don't have the right to steal food from a market.

*Yawns*

And for your information mister I dont steal non-free software.

I just make non-free software free. I'm sorta like the liberater of enslaved software.

Think of it that way.

If someone steals food from a supermarket then that is bad.

However if someone takes food from a shopping cart that is taped shut and is given as a "free trial" then you tend not to feel as bad.

When its a keygen click away or a registry edit away, I tend not to feel bad. If they would secure their software better and I hacked it, then I might not do it.

Maybe.
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10/8/2008 5:34:44 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/8/2008 5:29:05 PM, scissorhands7 wrote:
And for your information mister I dont steal non-free software.
I just make non-free software free. I'm sorta like the liberater of enslaved software.

But it's not your decision whether software is free or not, not unless you make the software. Just like a supermarket decides whether to make something a free trial or not. I can't crack open a box of Ritz in the cracker aisle just to try em. I can only take what the store decides it will give me for free; it is not my decision to make the Ritz free or non-free.
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10/8/2008 5:36:41 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
YARRR....I be walkin' in th' wrong topic...

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10/8/2008 7:22:38 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
hey guys, does anyone know of any government subsidies to software companies? If so, then scissorhands doesn't need his illogical nonsense, we can just show him the Danneskjold defense to piracy :D
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10/8/2008 7:43:11 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/8/2008 5:34:44 PM, beem0r wrote:
At 10/8/2008 5:29:05 PM, scissorhands7 wrote:
And for your information mister I dont steal non-free software.
I just make non-free software free. I'm sorta like the liberater of enslaved software.

But it's not your decision whether software is free or not, not unless you make the software. Just like a supermarket decides whether to make something a free trial or not. I can't crack open a box of Ritz in the cracker aisle just to try em. I can only take what the store decides it will give me for free; it is not my decision to make the Ritz free or non-free.

I do have to disagree. It is not like eating crackers out of a supermarket aisle.
Its like a store giving you a giant box of treasure that is locked. They're asking you to buy the key (registration code). If you can pick the lock without using the key, then how is that immoral? In reality your not stealing the software seeing as how the software was given to you free. In all sense of things your buying the registration code. If you can open it by yourself you shouldn't have to pay.

It is my opinion that if software companies cannot secure their software properly they shouldn't be giving the locked versions away online.
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Harlan
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10/8/2008 8:26:05 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
I do think it's good to support the author or artist sometimes if it something of genuine value, but I think that it is silly to start having regrets about stealing digital information. Digital information does not share any characteristics with the traditional sense of "possesion" (which is meaningless anyways, at the root of it). It's just information, and when you "pirate" it, you simply make another copy of it, without taking away the original copy. It is like a body of text or something, in essence. Therefore, comparing it to stealing material objects is pointless.
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10/8/2008 8:28:16 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
I look at it this way

Take the game Spore for example, I was not under any circumstances ever going to buy it. I am not going to buy it ever.

Me pirating it had no affect on the money made or lost by EA. If I hadn't pirated it, I just would not have it.
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10/8/2008 8:32:42 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/8/2008 8:28:16 PM, s0m31john wrote:
I look at it this way

Take the game Spore for example, I was not under any circumstances ever going to buy it. I am not going to buy it ever.

Me pirating it had no affect on the money made or lost by EA. If I hadn't pirated it, I just would not have it.

Sorry to go off topic, but how is spore? I am dissapointed that I don't have the right kind of video card for it, but am thinking about getting a new one, if the game is worth it.

From what I have seen, spore would be the type of thing worthy of buying.
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10/8/2008 8:42:28 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
It is a good game, I'm enjoying it.

Is it worth all the hype it got? No, but it is still a good game.

I will not buy it not because it's a bad game, but because EA treats all their paying customers like criminals. The whole thing is DRM ridden and you're limited to one account and only 3 installs before you have to buy another license key.

When I buy a game, I should own it, not rent it.
scissorhands7
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10/9/2008 3:48:22 AM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/8/2008 8:05:38 PM, s0m31john wrote:
If I can break into a car, I can have it?

If someone gives you a car as a trial run, allows you to keep the car after you are done but takes away the keys, you tell me?
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10/9/2008 9:15:48 AM
Posted: 8 years ago
When they specifically tell ya that the car is not licensed to you for breaking into?
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10/9/2008 10:19:38 AM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/9/2008 9:15:48 AM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:
When they specifically tell ya that the car is not licensed to you for breaking into?

It might be morally wrong (depending on what your morals are) but I dont think you could call it stealing parsay.

Theft - is the illegal taking of another person's property without that person's freely-given consent

Technically you're not taking their properly illegally seeing as how it has been given to you freely.
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3/31/2012 11:12:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
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4/5/2012 3:46:30 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'll admit. I'm one of the few people who doesn't really pirate. I just feel that if I like something whether it's music, movies, whatever that the creators should get some kind of credit. Really the only form of what could be considered "piracy" I sometimes engage in is using sites to convert youtube audio into MP3 format.
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4/5/2012 2:13:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/5/2012 3:46:30 AM, InsertNameHere wrote:
I'll admit. I'm one of the few people who doesn't really pirate. I just feel that if I like something whether it's music, movies, whatever that the creators should get some kind of credit. Really the only form of what could be considered "piracy" I sometimes engage in is using sites to convert youtube audio into MP3 format.

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