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7/10/2017 2:33:11 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
What rapper is the GOAT and why?

I feel like the most common answers are 2pac, Biggie, Eminem, and Jay-Z. Arguments can be made for some of the newer guys. Who do you think and why?
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7/11/2017 9:30:16 AM
Posted: 4 months ago
Other common answers are Nas and GZA/Genius (of Wu Tang Clan).

Aesop Rock is extremely talented. Earl Sweatshirt, Danny Brown, and Kendrick Lamar are also promising, more recent rappers.

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7/12/2017 10:41:19 PM
Posted: 4 months ago
I mean, today, it's Kendrick Lamar. I used think Biggie was the best, but listening to his tunes now they just seem sort of dated. I mean, there was a sort of time and place for them, and that was back a couple of years ago, I think. Today, Biggie just sounds a sort of wrong note amidst the wash of...I guess, current, similar sounding music. I mean, I guess every decade/year/whatever just has a sound, and Biggie just ain't it atm. Maybe I'm just way too mainstream, though.
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7/19/2017 2:00:47 AM
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NONE beat this: https://www.youtube.com...
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8/6/2017 6:14:58 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 7/10/2017 2:33:11 AM, warren42 wrote:
What rapper is the GOAT and why?

I feel like the most common answers are 2pac, Biggie, Eminem, and Jay-Z. Arguments can be made for some of the newer guys. Who do you think and why?

Eminem. His raps are very articulate and his has a big vocabulary in his brain; is able to use such long words and still rhyme with them.
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8/6/2017 6:51:57 PM
Posted: 3 months ago
By bangers - Pac or Big Pun

By content - Immortal Technique

By novelty and ingenuity - Outkast (honorable mention includes Kanye West... yeah I said it)
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8/10/2017 3:38:37 AM
Posted: 3 months ago
At 8/6/2017 6:51:57 PM, Danielle wrote:
By content - Immortal Technique

IT is fvcking insane. Dance With the Devil's second part has some of the best lines in rap without question.
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10/28/2017 5:29:07 PM
Posted: 3 weeks ago
At 8/6/2017 6:14:58 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 7/10/2017 2:33:11 AM, warren42 wrote:
What rapper is the GOAT and why?

I feel like the most common answers are 2pac, Biggie, Eminem, and Jay-Z. Arguments can be made for some of the newer guys. Who do you think and why?

Eminem. His raps are very articulate and his has a big vocabulary in his brain; is able to use such long words and still rhyme with them.

I rescind this comment.
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11/7/2017 9:38:24 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 10/28/2017 5:29:07 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 8/6/2017 6:14:58 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 7/10/2017 2:33:11 AM, warren42 wrote:
What rapper is the GOAT and why?

I feel like the most common answers are 2pac, Biggie, Eminem, and Jay-Z. Arguments can be made for some of the newer guys. Who do you think and why?

Eminem. His raps are very articulate and his has a big vocabulary in his brain; is able to use such long words and still rhyme with them.

I rescind this comment.

What because he disagrees with your politics he"s suddenly not the best rapper anymore?
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11/7/2017 11:15:45 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/7/2017 9:38:24 PM, warren42 wrote:
At 10/28/2017 5:29:07 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 8/6/2017 6:14:58 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 7/10/2017 2:33:11 AM, warren42 wrote:
What rapper is the GOAT and why?

I feel like the most common answers are 2pac, Biggie, Eminem, and Jay-Z. Arguments can be made for some of the newer guys. Who do you think and why?

Eminem. His raps are very articulate and his has a big vocabulary in his brain; is able to use such long words and still rhyme with them.

I rescind this comment.

What because he disagrees with your politics he"s suddenly not the best rapper anymore?

Well, don't you think the content of his raps is a huge part of determining who's the best rapper? Also, his flows and disses were weak.
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11/8/2017 3:09:00 AM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/7/2017 11:15:45 PM, Mharman wrote:
Well, don't you think the content of his raps is a huge part of determining who's the best rapper? Also, his flows and disses were weak.

So you were okay with the lines and songs about domestic abuse, drug abuse, torture, murder, and rape, but disagreement with Trump is what crossed the line?

On that same matter, a single song that you disagree with removes someone from their position as the GOAT?

Also, it was weak by Eminem standards, but at the same time, it was 1. More a political statement in the form of a rap than a rap for the purpose of rapping and 2. A freestyle, which I don't know if you've ever tried, but is incredibly difficult.
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11/8/2017 3:32:10 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/8/2017 3:09:00 AM, warren42 wrote:
At 11/7/2017 11:15:45 PM, Mharman wrote:
Well, don't you think the content of his raps is a huge part of determining who's the best rapper? Also, his flows and disses were weak.

So you were okay with the lines and songs about domestic abuse, drug abuse, torture, murder, and rape, but disagreement with Trump is what crossed the line?

He sang about that? I thought he sang about life and the hardships.

On that same matter, a single song that you disagree with removes someone from their position as the GOAT?

Also, it was weak by Eminem standards, but at the same time, it was 1. More a political statement in the form of a rap than a rap for the purpose of rapping and 2. A freestyle, which I don't know if you've ever tried, but is incredibly difficult.

I can do freestyles.
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11/8/2017 8:04:26 PM
Posted: 2 weeks ago
At 11/8/2017 3:32:10 PM, Mharman wrote:
At 11/8/2017 3:09:00 AM, warren42 wrote:
At 11/7/2017 11:15:45 PM, Mharman wrote:
Well, don't you think the content of his raps is a huge part of determining who's the best rapper? Also, his flows and disses were weak.

So you were okay with the lines and songs about domestic abuse, drug abuse, torture, murder, and rape, but disagreement with Trump is what crossed the line?

He sang about that? I thought he sang about life and the hardships.

Have you listened to his songs?

Stan: Abuse, Torture, Murder
Space Bound: Domestic Abuse
Mockingbird: Domestic Abuse
Love the Way You Lie: Domestic Abuse, Torture, Murder
Fast Lane (Bad Meets Evil song): Rape, Murder

And those are just off the top of my head.
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11/13/2017 7:00:25 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 7/10/2017 2:33:11 AM, warren42 wrote:
What rapper is the GOAT and why?

I feel like the most common answers are 2pac, Biggie, Eminem, and Jay-Z. Arguments can be made for some of the newer guys. Who do you think and why?

LL Cool J. And its because he has been the most relevant rapper for the past 30 years now in the hip hop community.
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11/13/2017 7:01:43 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 7/12/2017 10:41:19 PM, Devilry wrote:
I mean, today, it's Kendrick Lamar. I used think Biggie was the best, but listening to his tunes now they just seem sort of dated. I mean, there was a sort of time and place for them, and that was back a couple of years ago, I think. Today, Biggie just sounds a sort of wrong note amidst the wash of...I guess, current, similar sounding music. I mean, I guess every decade/year/whatever just has a sound, and Biggie just ain't it atm. Maybe I'm just way too mainstream, though.

Who in their right mind would compare timeless music to crap of today.
Clearly you do not know a damn thing about real hip hop.
I think J Cole is better than Lamar. But that is my own personal opinion.
Along with Jay Z.
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11/13/2017 7:03:03 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 8/6/2017 6:54:01 PM, Danielle wrote:
(Random: underrated rappers include Aesop Rock, Sage Francis, Illogic and Pharoahe Monch... listen to the PTSD album.)

Your forgot Canibus and J Cole. Cole is mainstream but yall still sleepin on the man.
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11/13/2017 7:37:59 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/13/2017 7:01:43 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/12/2017 10:41:19 PM, Devilry wrote:
I mean, today, it's Kendrick Lamar. I used think Biggie was the best, but listening to his tunes now they just seem sort of dated. I mean, there was a sort of time and place for them, and that was back a couple of years ago, I think. Today, Biggie just sounds a sort of wrong note amidst the wash of...I guess, current, similar sounding music. I mean, I guess every decade/year/whatever just has a sound, and Biggie just ain't it atm. Maybe I'm just way too mainstream, though.

Who in their right mind would compare timeless music to crap of today.
Clearly you do not know a damn thing about real hip hop.
I think J Cole is better than Lamar. But that is my own personal opinion.
Along with Jay Z.

Kendrick is good, no question. I also am a big fan of J. Cole. My biggest problem with Kendrick Lamar, although nitpicky, is that sometimes he rhymes things just to rhyme them, and it doesn't actually make sense.

An example from DNA:
I got off, I got troublesome heart inside my DNA
I just win again, then win again like Wimbledon, I serve
Yeah, that"s him again, the sound that engine in is like a bird
You see fireworks and Corvette tire skrrt the boulevard
I know how you work, I know just who you are

Not one of these lines relates to any of the other lines.
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11/13/2017 7:43:04 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/13/2017 7:37:59 PM, warren42 wrote:
At 11/13/2017 7:01:43 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/12/2017 10:41:19 PM, Devilry wrote:
I mean, today, it's Kendrick Lamar. I used think Biggie was the best, but listening to his tunes now they just seem sort of dated. I mean, there was a sort of time and place for them, and that was back a couple of years ago, I think. Today, Biggie just sounds a sort of wrong note amidst the wash of...I guess, current, similar sounding music. I mean, I guess every decade/year/whatever just has a sound, and Biggie just ain't it atm. Maybe I'm just way too mainstream, though.

Who in their right mind would compare timeless music to crap of today.
Clearly you do not know a damn thing about real hip hop.
I think J Cole is better than Lamar. But that is my own personal opinion.
Along with Jay Z.

Kendrick is good, no question. I also am a big fan of J. Cole. My biggest problem with Kendrick Lamar, although nitpicky, is that sometimes he rhymes things just to rhyme them, and it doesn't actually make sense.

An example from DNA:
I got off, I got troublesome heart inside my DNA
I just win again, then win again like Wimbledon, I serve
Yeah, that"s him again, the sound that engine in is like a bird
You see fireworks and Corvette tire skrrt the boulevard
I know how you work, I know just who you are

Not one of these lines relates to any of the other lines.

Prodigy's album Hegelian Dialectic is album of the year hands down. *
Have you head that one already ?
Jay Zs 444 album is ranked second on my list.
Rick Rose- Rather You Than Me is third. It was a good album and I cant even stand Ross.
Lamar album would come under number 4.

Not a bad year for hip hip. Wu Tang just put out The Saga Continues a few weeks ago.
I 'm listening to this album right now and it is a banger.
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11/13/2017 8:32:59 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/13/2017 7:37:59 PM, warren42 wrote:
At 11/13/2017 7:01:43 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/12/2017 10:41:19 PM, Devilry wrote:
I mean, today, it's Kendrick Lamar. I used think Biggie was the best, but listening to his tunes now they just seem sort of dated. I mean, there was a sort of time and place for them, and that was back a couple of years ago, I think. Today, Biggie just sounds a sort of wrong note amidst the wash of...I guess, current, similar sounding music. I mean, I guess every decade/year/whatever just has a sound, and Biggie just ain't it atm. Maybe I'm just way too mainstream, though.

Who in their right mind would compare timeless music to crap of today.
Clearly you do not know a damn thing about real hip hop.
I think J Cole is better than Lamar. But that is my own personal opinion.
Along with Jay Z.

Kendrick is good, no question. I also am a big fan of J. Cole. My biggest problem with Kendrick Lamar, although nitpicky, is that sometimes he rhymes things just to rhyme them, and it doesn't actually make sense.

An example from DNA:
I got off, I got troublesome heart inside my DNA
I just win again, then win again like Wimbledon, I serve
Yeah, that"s him again, the sound that engine in is like a bird
You see fireworks and Corvette tire skrrt the boulevard
I know how you work, I know just who you are

Not one of these lines relates to any of the other lines.

Dude is the James Joyce of rap, mate. Go read Ulysses and tell me how coherent that sh*t is.

But dude's flow is God.
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11/13/2017 8:40:52 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/13/2017 8:32:59 PM, Devilry wrote:
At 11/13/2017 7:37:59 PM, warren42 wrote:
At 11/13/2017 7:01:43 PM, inferno wrote:
At 7/12/2017 10:41:19 PM, Devilry wrote:
I mean, today, it's Kendrick Lamar. I used think Biggie was the best, but listening to his tunes now they just seem sort of dated. I mean, there was a sort of time and place for them, and that was back a couple of years ago, I think. Today, Biggie just sounds a sort of wrong note amidst the wash of...I guess, current, similar sounding music. I mean, I guess every decade/year/whatever just has a sound, and Biggie just ain't it atm. Maybe I'm just way too mainstream, though.

Who in their right mind would compare timeless music to crap of today.
Clearly you do not know a damn thing about real hip hop.
I think J Cole is better than Lamar. But that is my own personal opinion.
Along with Jay Z.

Kendrick is good, no question. I also am a big fan of J. Cole. My biggest problem with Kendrick Lamar, although nitpicky, is that sometimes he rhymes things just to rhyme them, and it doesn't actually make sense.

An example from DNA:
I got off, I got troublesome heart inside my DNA
I just win again, then win again like Wimbledon, I serve
Yeah, that"s him again, the sound that engine in is like a bird
You see fireworks and Corvette tire skrrt the boulevard
I know how you work, I know just who you are

Not one of these lines relates to any of the other lines.

Dude is the James Joyce of rap, mate. Go read Ulysses and tell me how coherent that sh*t is.

But dude's flow is God.

By the way, go to Youtube right now and listen to this track.
Its called "Game Aint Based On Sympathy", by Rick Ross.
Its a hot track. Dont hate on this man.
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11/13/2017 8:45:31 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/13/2017 8:40:52 PM, inferno wrote:

"I stick my dick in her, tell her my net worth
Then we stare at each other and see who catch first"

lmao. That tune is good, mate, gotta give it to you.
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11/13/2017 8:46:47 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/13/2017 8:45:31 PM, Devilry wrote:
At 11/13/2017 8:40:52 PM, inferno wrote:

"I stick my dick in her, tell her my net worth
Then we stare at each other and see who catch first"

lmao. That tune is good, mate, gotta give it to you.

That whole album is fire !
It has over 1 million views already on Youtube !
The album, not the song !
It has only been out for about 6 months.
Some album uploads take years to reach that much views !
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11/13/2017 9:06:52 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/13/2017 8:45:31 PM, Devilry wrote:
At 11/13/2017 8:40:52 PM, inferno wrote:

"I stick my dick in her, tell her my net worth
Then we stare at each other and see who catch first"

lmao. That tune is good, mate, gotta give it to you.

But all jokes aside, Prodigy's album is the best.
He has a song called Broken Rappers. Just check that one out when you get time and listen to his words. As If is my personal favorite track on that album.
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11/13/2017 10:47:27 PM
Posted: 1 week ago
At 11/13/2017 7:03:03 PM, inferno wrote:
At 8/6/2017 6:54:01 PM, Danielle wrote:
(Random: underrated rappers include Aesop Rock, Sage Francis, Illogic and Pharoahe Monch... listen to the PTSD album.)

Your forgot Canibus and J Cole. Cole is mainstream but yall still sleepin on the man.

You're 100% right. I just don't listen to either of them as much, but they're great. Especially J.