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Reasoning
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1/4/2010 5:46:24 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 1/4/2010 5:41:19 PM, Nags wrote:
At 1/4/2010 5:38:27 PM, Reasoning wrote:
Whatever the heck they want.

Doesn't answer the question.

Sure it does. Government schools should be abolished and private schools should be able to teach whatever they want. (Of course a collective can't actually teach anything, but it is a figure of speech.)
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1/4/2010 5:46:46 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 1/4/2010 5:44:27 PM, LeafRod wrote:
At 1/4/2010 5:41:19 PM, Nags wrote:
At 1/4/2010 5:38:27 PM, Reasoning wrote:
Whatever the heck they want.

Doesn't answer the question.

I don't think Reasoning actually understands how real life works.

How so?
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1/4/2010 5:47:17 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
The teacher should tell him that there's lots he could research about it. Maybe the teacher could give him a little idea of some different ideas, like Volkov said.

The problem is that ID has nothing backing it up. You can present it as an "idea" (not a theory, as some of the truly idiotic politicians try to present it on equal footing with evolution) that has no backing other than a novel.

I am against ID because scientific ideas have basically infinitely more backing in fact.
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1/4/2010 5:48:50 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 1/4/2010 5:46:46 PM, Reasoning wrote:
How so?

Because the question is not about the government or private and public schools. Seriously, no one here cares about that in this specific thread. This thread is about what a teacher should say to a student.

Get your head in the game, son. I've noticed that a lot of people try to push their ideas so much that they do so when it's entirely irrelevant.
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1/4/2010 5:50:11 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 1/4/2010 5:46:24 PM, Reasoning wrote:
Sure it does. Government schools should be abolished and private schools should be able to teach whatever they want. (Of course a collective can't actually teach anything, but it is a figure of speech.)

Still doesn't answer mongeese's question. I disagree with you that government schools should be abolished, but that doesn't matter on this topic. What should the private schools teach?
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1/4/2010 5:56:00 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 1/4/2010 5:48:50 PM, LeafRod wrote:
At 1/4/2010 5:46:46 PM, Reasoning wrote:
How so?

Because the question is not about the government or private and public schools. Seriously, no one here cares about that in this specific thread. This thread is about what a teacher should say to a student.

Get your head in the game, son. I've noticed that a lot of people try to push their ideas so much that they do so when it's entirely irrelevant.

Sure it does. The entire debate in this subject has been around what should be taught in government school. One group thinks that Intelligent Design should be taught in government schools, another group thinks otherwise. There is no non-arbitrary way of resolving the dispute. Abolishing it solves the problem.

I have never heard a person complain because Intelligent Design is being taught in Private Schools.
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1/4/2010 5:59:48 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 1/4/2010 5:56:00 PM, Reasoning wrote:
Sure it does. The entire debate in this subject has been around what should be taught in government school. One group thinks that Intelligent Design should be taught in government schools, another group thinks otherwise. There is no non-arbitrary way of resolving the dispute. Abolishing it solves the problem.

Aside from the fact that abolishing public schools causes more problems than there already are -- abolishing public schools is not a viable or possible solution at this point in time.

I have never heard a person complain because Intelligent Design is being taught in Private Schools.

I'm sure there have been. Still a straw man though. What should the private schools teach the children?
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1/4/2010 6:02:42 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 1/4/2010 5:59:48 PM, Nags wrote:
At 1/4/2010 5:56:00 PM, Reasoning wrote:
Sure it does. The entire debate in this subject has been around what should be taught in government school. One group thinks that Intelligent Design should be taught in government schools, another group thinks otherwise. There is no non-arbitrary way of resolving the dispute. Abolishing it solves the problem.

Aside from the fact that abolishing public schools causes more problems than there already are -- abolishing public schools is not a viable or possible solution at this point in time.

I have never heard a person complain because Intelligent Design is being taught in Private Schools.

I'm sure there have been. Still a straw man though. What should the private schools teach the children?

Would you like a response from a personal private school student?
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1/4/2010 6:10:54 PM
Posted: 8 months ago
At 1/4/2010 4:18:54 PM, mongeese wrote:
Most people here seem to be against the mention of Intelligent Design in [government] schools.

So, when a student asks where life firsts originiated, what should be the proper response?

This is what I read it as. As I would have suspected most would. I have never heard of this being an issue in a Private School setting.

That being said, if the question was about schools in general, than I have answered part of the question already. I have no opinion on the other part.
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