Guv'ment, and the Education Course

At 4/13/2010 1:36:33 PM, theLwerd wrote:
Ethics.

Government teaching ethics? Way too many fields of thought. Best left to the parents.

At least ONE feminism course.

Feminism is actually a belief. Schools really shouldn't be indoctrinating beliefs into students.

Feminism is actually a belief. Schools really shouldn't be indoctrinating beliefs into students.

Indeed. You wouldn't want an Objectivism course requirement would ya'll?

At 4/13/2010 3:41:04 PM, Ragnar_Rahl wrote:

Feminism is actually a belief. Schools really shouldn't be indoctrinating beliefs into students.

Indeed. You wouldn't want an Objectivism course requirement would ya'll?

Nope. I think I'll pass. Schools shouldn't be intended to push one particular agenda.

At 4/13/2010 1:19:11 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
If the government has ah and in education, should any subjects be mandatory? And should there be a strict syllabus?

No. /thread

To clarify. Compulsion is force and force is violence and violence is bad unless in self-defense and even then it is undesirable. Therefore compulsion is bad. Therefore, no.

At 4/13/2010 1:19:11 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
In Ireland, 3 core subjects, Maths, English and Irish, are mandatory just up until college.

All are unnecessary. Here's what you need to know:

Libertarian and Socialist Theory and History
Praxeology and the History of Economic Thought
History of the conflicts between Authority and Liberty

History is important. But if it pleases the Anarcha-Feminists we could rename it Herstory.

In fact much of history can be understood in feminist terms. The State is Authority, men, that try to oppress liberty, women, and have even convinced many that it is their rightful place to be oppressed.

At 4/13/2010 5:23:33 PM, Reasoning wrote:

At 4/13/2010 1:19:11 PM, I-am-a-panda wrote:
In Ireland, 3 core subjects, Maths, English and Irish, are mandatory just up until college.

All are unnecessary. Here's what you need to know:

Libertarian and Socialist Theory and History
Praxeology and the History of Economic Thought
History of the conflicts between Authority and Liberty

You don't need math? Explain how a person can get by in the modern world without knowing math.

At 4/13/2010 5:25:51 PM, Reasoning wrote:
History is important. But if it pleases the Anarcha-Feminists we could rename it Herstory.

You complain about discrimination, yet you discriminate between Statist-Feminists and Anarcha-Feminists. Do you just assume that statists dont' exist in your made-up world?

At 4/13/2010 7:56:14 PM, mongeese wrote:
You don't need math? Explain how a person can get by in the modern world without knowing math.

You don't need to study math. You pick up everything you need in the course of life, unless you want to have a career in something specifically math-related. But why would you want to do that?

At 4/13/2010 8:22:10 PM, Reasoning wrote:

At 4/13/2010 7:56:14 PM, mongeese wrote:
You don't need math? Explain how a person can get by in the modern world without knowing math.

You don't need to study math. You pick up everything you need in the course of life, unless you want to have a career in something specifically math-related. But why would you want to do that?

Because it's extremely useful. Without it, society cannot advance technologically. But you go right on ahead with your 'pick it up as you go' attitude. People like you will be easier for me to exploit.

A government mandated curriculum and examination system is obviously based on the idea that all people want to and can learn exactly the same thing, just to repeat it all on a bit of paper in 2 years. There is no ground to debate what the individuals want and how to best teach them it, and to suit their needs as a future worker or university student. These things should be decided locally or within the schools.

At 4/13/2010 3:18:50 PM, badger wrote:

they don't pick on one aspect of our culture. irish history is taught in every primary school and almost every primary school has someone come in teaching irish dancing. on top of that the government fund the GAA and there's a pitch in every town in the country.

Taught is a strong word there. My history in primary school was 2 pages of comics on a topic.

it sounds fairly fvcked up in fairness, but that's the way we want it. and we might aswell expose the nation to some of our literature while we're at it. enda kenny brought getting rid of it up before and it he got no support.

Actually, as far as I recall, Enda Kenny wasn't shot down, and actually did get support for it.

And also, "the way we want it." *coughpopulismcough*

i don't think it is. i'd say the reason there has been a drop in it being taken at higher level is because more opportunities have opened up for us and there is a huge workload in honours irish which takes from the amount of time we can put into the subjects we feel matter the most to us.

The reason it is a workload is because of the difficulty and the fact Irish is given the attitude of a foreign language.

i'm sitting my leaving cert this year and nobody complains about irish. everyone complains about foreign languages though. pass irish is easy because we've been taught it since primary school and you don't need to do any study to pass it in the leaving cert so why get rid of it? and it still exposes you to irish literature which as i said gives you pride in your country.

Eh, you do need study it for the leaving cert. You can just know Poems and prose off like that?